Sociopath Community

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

People go to jail for doing dumb shit. 

 Lol yes. 

Chapo is a great example with an idiot with a high IQ because of this. My god. 

He never reported his Mensa score, I bet it was hot garbage. 

I also have a high IQ though no one here would believe me, yet a lot of people here assume I am an idiot and maybe in a way I am. 

Low wisdom, high IQ. There's a lot of high IQ idiots out there, if anything it seems to hold them back from connecting with others to such a point as to make struggles with Wisdom.

I am smart and my husband is wise. We found we work well together. People here disagree with it though. My husband has not always been wise however, but lately he is 

Intelligence sees how something could be, while Wisdom sees what is tried and true. To compare, look at a Mad Scientist next to a Farmer. 

 Now look at the mad scientist farmer. Goals.

Delora said: 

Intelligence sees how something could be, while Wisdom sees what is tried and true. To compare, look at a Mad Scientist next to a Farmer. 

 Now look at the mad scientist farmer. Goals.

That would potentially be the best of both worlds... unless they take it to Pesticides without caring for the Earth. 

Either way, is my point being illustrated or missed? 

Turncoat said: 

FOTS said: 

Idiot said: 

this seems like a gross oversimplification, researchers are surprised at the level of (what appears to be) empathy among and between other species

 All of these are true to varying degrees. Nature is full of complex ecological relationships that have a diverse array of purposes and benefits. There is no one true model for when sadism, mutualism parasitism, commensalism etc is more beneficial than the alternative.

Yes, higher functioning individuals are more crafty and cruel when they decide to be sadistic. Yes, interspecial and intraspecial mutualism ("empathy" between and among species) is extremely common. Yes, intelligence is linked with self-awareness and introspection; so intelligent people can tend to be more moral. But also, the opposite is equally true for all of these statements.

Too many species of bird (like Pigeons and DUCKS) are dicks that seem to enjoy sadism with many finding pleasure from rape, dolphins are sadistic rapists as well. Then there's Orcas, many species of Ape, even Elephants rape and kill their own kind and seem to get something out of it. Otters even rape Baby Seals, and Seals in turn sexually assault baby Penguins for fun, Wolves and some dogs will kill Sheep for fun rather than food, etc. 

When they show, not environmental synergy, but needs that require them to study their environment while working within interpersonal politics rather than lone ones? Ruthlessness and Sadism tend to crop up more often. 

 I tried to avoid the tendency for rape because the animal kingdom is ripe with it.  Courtship in a majority of species is forcing an unwilling female to reproduce. Its common among less intelligent species just as much as dolphins, monkeys etc. 

FOTS said: 

Turncoat said: 

FOTS said: 

 All of these are true to varying degrees. Nature is full of complex ecological relationships that have a diverse array of purposes and benefits. There is no one true model for when sadism, mutualism parasitism, commensalism etc is more beneficial than the alternative.

Yes, higher functioning individuals are more crafty and cruel when they decide to be sadistic. Yes, interspecial and intraspecial mutualism ("empathy" between and among species) is extremely common. Yes, intelligence is linked with self-awareness and introspection; so intelligent people can tend to be more moral. But also, the opposite is equally true for all of these statements.

Too many species of bird (like Pigeons and DUCKS) are dicks that seem to enjoy sadism with many finding pleasure from rape, dolphins are sadistic rapists as well. Then there's Orcas, many species of Ape, even Elephants rape and kill their own kind and seem to get something out of it. Otters even rape Baby Seals, and Seals in turn sexually assault baby Penguins for fun, Wolves and some dogs will kill Sheep for fun rather than food, etc. 

When they show, not environmental synergy, but needs that require them to study their environment while working within interpersonal politics rather than lone ones? Ruthlessness and Sadism tend to crop up more often. 

 I tried to avoid the tendency for rape because the animal kingdom is ripe with it.  Courtship in a majority of species is forcing an unwilling female to reproduce. Its common among less intelligent species just as much as dolphins, monkeys etc. 

 Dolphins and monkeys are extremely intelligent wdym

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Intelligence sees how something could be, while Wisdom sees what is tried and true. To compare, look at a Mad Scientist next to a Farmer. 

 Now look at the mad scientist farmer. Goals.

That would potentially be the best of both worlds... unless they take it to Pesticides without caring for the Earth. 

Either way, is my point being illustrated or missed? 

 I just don't agree 🤷

Delora said:

  Dolphins and monkeys are extremely intelligent wdym

 Yes, that was the comparison. I am saying that dolphins and monkeys would be the intelligent species (who rape often) but its equally common practice among less intelligent species because of the way courtship works in much of nature.

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

 Now look at the mad scientist farmer. Goals.

That would potentially be the best of both worlds... unless they take it to Pesticides without caring for the Earth. 

Either way, is my point being illustrated or missed? 

 I just don't agree 🤷

That's fine as long as I'm being clear. 

FOTS said: 

Turncoat said: 

FOTS said: 

 All of these are true to varying degrees. Nature is full of complex ecological relationships that have a diverse array of purposes and benefits. There is no one true model for when sadism, mutualism parasitism, commensalism etc is more beneficial than the alternative.

Yes, higher functioning individuals are more crafty and cruel when they decide to be sadistic. Yes, interspecial and intraspecial mutualism ("empathy" between and among species) is extremely common. Yes, intelligence is linked with self-awareness and introspection; so intelligent people can tend to be more moral. But also, the opposite is equally true for all of these statements.

Too many species of bird (like Pigeons and DUCKS) are dicks that seem to enjoy sadism with many finding pleasure from rape, dolphins are sadistic rapists as well. Then there's Orcas, many species of Ape, even Elephants rape and kill their own kind and seem to get something out of it. Otters even rape Baby Seals, and Seals in turn sexually assault baby Penguins for fun, Wolves and some dogs will kill Sheep for fun rather than food, etc. 

When they show, not environmental synergy, but needs that require them to study their environment while working within interpersonal politics rather than lone ones? Ruthlessness and Sadism tend to crop up more often. 

 I tried to avoid the tendency for rape because the animal kingdom is ripe with it.  Courtship in a majority of species is forcing an unwilling female to reproduce. Its common among less intelligent species just as much as dolphins, monkeys etc. 

Some however enjoy the suffering rather than handling it as something matter of fact, even using it with a gang of others like themselves to abuse other species of animal. 

Less intelligent ones rape from not knowing any better, more intelligent ones risk enjoying that part of themselves over how it hits the reward center of their brain. 

Even for human comparison look at smart vs dumb expressions of ASPD, both show proclivities for violence for example, both can even enjoy it, but the more intelligent ones can make a poetic ramble out of it that might even draw others into the ideas. 

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

That would potentially be the best of both worlds... unless they take it to Pesticides without caring for the Earth. 

Either way, is my point being illustrated or missed? 

 I just don't agree 🤷

That's fine as long as I'm being clear. 

 So you think cruelty is intelligence?

Turncoat said: 

FOTS said: 

Turncoat said: 

Too many species of bird (like Pigeons and DUCKS) are dicks that seem to enjoy sadism with many finding pleasure from rape, dolphins are sadistic rapists as well. Then there's Orcas, many species of Ape, even Elephants rape and kill their own kind and seem to get something out of it. Otters even rape Baby Seals, and Seals in turn sexually assault baby Penguins for fun, Wolves and some dogs will kill Sheep for fun rather than food, etc. 

When they show, not environmental synergy, but needs that require them to study their environment while working within interpersonal politics rather than lone ones? Ruthlessness and Sadism tend to crop up more often. 

 I tried to avoid the tendency for rape because the animal kingdom is ripe with it.  Courtship in a majority of species is forcing an unwilling female to reproduce. Its common among less intelligent species just as much as dolphins, monkeys etc. 

Some however enjoy the suffering rather than handling it as something matter of fact,

Anthropomorphism again. Where is there evidence to show the animal enjoys the suffering of the other?

Less intelligent ones rape from not knowing any better, more intelligent ones risk enjoying that part of themselves over how it hits the reward center of their brain. 

lol are you talking about humans or animals? 

Even for human comparison look at smart vs dumb expressions of ASPD, both show proclivities for violence for example, both can even enjoy it, but the more intelligent ones can make a poetic ramble out of it that might even draw others into the ideas. 

 seems like a trope, tbh