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Turncoat said: 

janitor said: 

Anthropomorphism. Cats' predator instinct has been cultivated in their DNA for thousands of years, doesn't mean they're sadistic. They can't resist their prey drive. 

They don't even know the things they're hunting are even food, they learn from tasting it, and they particularly enjoy playing with the suffering critter as a form of pleasure. I have watched cats prolongue the prey's suffering and refuse to let them die for "more fun", drinking in their feelings and junk by staring at their last moments in the eye, then following that they don't even eat it. 

Sadism and Ruthlessness may be more pathological, but when you compare the critters in questions' sadistic drives to humanities it shows similarities.

At the very least for Spatial's point of Intelligence = Goodness, I really don't see it. There are values to selfishness and altruism depending on the environment, and many things on the higher IQ spectrum in nature partake in it. Even his own idols tend to err towards selfishness and ruthlessness, and even Sadism in Andrew Tate's case, so his point seems odd to me from him in particular. 

 Well your version of what you think intelligence here is is factually statistically less once cruelty is in the mix. Mean people can be that but it is less common 

I'm an absolute retard💕 rock level IQ.

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

janitor said: 

Anthropomorphism. Cats' predator instinct has been cultivated in their DNA for thousands of years, doesn't mean they're sadistic. They can't resist their prey drive. 

They don't even know the things they're hunting are even food, they learn from tasting it, and they particularly enjoy playing with the suffering critter as a form of pleasure. I have watched cats prolongue the prey's suffering and refuse to let them die for "more fun", drinking in their feelings and junk by staring at their last moments in the eye, then following that they don't even eat it. 

Sadism and Ruthlessness may be more pathological, but when you compare the critters in questions' sadistic drives to humanities it shows similarities.

At the very least for Spatial's point of Intelligence = Goodness, I really don't see it. There are values to selfishness and altruism depending on the environment, and many things on the higher IQ spectrum in nature partake in it. Even his own idols tend to err towards selfishness and ruthlessness, and even Sadism in Andrew Tate's case, so his point seems odd to me from him in particular. 

Well your version of what you think intelligence here is is factually statistically less once cruelty is in the mix. Mean people can be that but it is less common 

The business world tends to embrace and endorse ruthlessness, and with it Sadism tends to sidecar. Nice people tend to be naive, once they become more wise they tend to gradually become less nice as people until hitting some sort of faith epiphany somewhere. 

"Nice Guys Finish Last" also trends for a reason, being nice looks weak to people who don't otherwise show a proclivity towards it, and even Conmen succeed more than genuine people from learning to fake it as a ruthless person. Even "Becoming Jaded" is an aspect of Wisdom. 

I see more value in cooperation, but you have to admit that a lot of our best and brightest who find the most success are not good people. Even status quo shows an emphasis on selfish gains. 

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

They don't even know the things they're hunting are even food, they learn from tasting it, and they particularly enjoy playing with the suffering critter as a form of pleasure. I have watched cats prolongue the prey's suffering and refuse to let them die for "more fun", drinking in their feelings and junk by staring at their last moments in the eye, then following that they don't even eat it. 

Sadism and Ruthlessness may be more pathological, but when you compare the critters in questions' sadistic drives to humanities it shows similarities.

At the very least for Spatial's point of Intelligence = Goodness, I really don't see it. There are values to selfishness and altruism depending on the environment, and many things on the higher IQ spectrum in nature partake in it. Even his own idols tend to err towards selfishness and ruthlessness, and even Sadism in Andrew Tate's case, so his point seems odd to me from him in particular. 

Well your version of what you think intelligence here is is factually statistically less once cruelty is in the mix. Mean people can be that but it is less common 

The business world tends to embrace and endorse ruthlessness, and with it Sadism tends to sidecar. Nice people tend to be naive, once they become more wise they tend to gradually become less nice as people until hitting some sort of faith epiphany somewhere. 

"Nice Guys Finish Last" also trends for a reason, being nice looks weak to people who don't otherwise show a proclivity towards it, and even Conmen succeed more than genuine people from learning to fake it as a ruthless person. Even "Becoming Jaded" is an aspect of Wisdom. 

I see more value in cooperation, but you have to admit that a lot of our best and brightest who find the most success are not good people. Even status quo shows an emphasis on selfish gains. 

 That's not the same as intelligence. 

Although many would beg to differ though, to be fair even Einstein could be kind of a dick. He has children with people who were not even his wife

It's not about "smarts" though, nice people know they are making a sacrifice. They just feel it's worth it to them.

Even The Dilbert principle expresses how people who are less nice and less capable at the lower end get promotions, while your best and nicest tend to be stuck in the lower end positions. You have to know how to demand things out of life, and Sadism and Ruthlessness start predisposed there.

Smarter people also tend to show a self-alienating impatience with the repetitions of stupidity, which further isolates them from their peers. 

Turncoat said: 

Even The Dilbert principle expresses how people who are less nice and less capable at the lower end get promotions, while your best and nicest tend to be stuck in the lower end positions. You have to know how to demand things out of life, and Sadism and Ruthlessness start predisposed there.

Smarter people also tend to show a self-alienating impatience with the repetitions of stupidity, which further isolates them from their peers. 

 It's not about "smarts" though, nice people know they are making a sacrifice. They just feel it's worth it to them. like many things are lost in kindness. But few understand what is gained 

In less words, the smart man is an asshole, while the wise man is a saint. 

When given time, intelligence and wisdom pull in opposite directions while being mutually exclusive concepts. 

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

Even The Dilbert principle expresses how people who are less nice and less capable at the lower end get promotions, while your best and nicest tend to be stuck in the lower end positions. You have to know how to demand things out of life, and Sadism and Ruthlessness start predisposed there.

Smarter people also tend to show a self-alienating impatience with the repetitions of stupidity, which further isolates them from their peers. 

 It's not about "smarts" though, nice people know they are making a sacrifice. They just feel it's worth it to them. like many things are lost in kindness. But few understand what is gained 

How is charity smart on it's own? 

With some ruthless intelligence charity can become something they grow from, while on it's own it is just about hitting their reward centers with the aim of relieving themselves of some sort of predisposed guilt. 

Turncoat said: 

In less words, the smart man is an asshole, while the wise man is a saint. 

When given time, intelligence and wisdom pull in opposite directions while being mutually exclusive concepts. 

 Yes but people forget how often intelligence and wisdom go together. And being naive is not the same as being good either. I for one can be very naive at times and I am aware of it. Does that make me good necessarily? Or wise? 

People go to jail for doing dumb shit.