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Oh look it's  TC, the great Tony handler lol

I'm just talking about how sadism tends to be increasingly present in creatures of higher intelligence, jeez dude. 

I'd have figured you'd agree over the benefits of ruthlessness, considering your idols. 

In the real world, Sadism won't provide you with anything good. It's a perversion.

Even a bum on the street knows they cannot beg without being kind, while being an ass will destroy one's business.

If the world doesn't like you, you'll have problems.

Did you never watch The Apprentice? 

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I have talked a lot with Jim and we have all talked to each other for nearly a decade.

I think we can judge the intelligence of each other to some degree. Ofc it is not really that important, its for fun. And it is probably not super accurate.

 

Onto the Jim thing, I have talked with him a lot in private too, he has tried to get me to scam with him several times. I even considered meeting him and if he wasnt super BPD i might of.

 

I do want to hear why FOTS thinks he is not smart, especially after saying that we cant tell how smart people are. See Jim knows who he is, what he is doing, how to do it, what he wants and how to get what he wants. I have always respected him for that, despite his problems.

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Good said:
I do want to hear why FOTS thinks he is not smart, especially after saying that we cant tell how smart people are. See Jim knows who he is, what he is doing, how to do it, what he wants and how to get what he wants. I have always respected him for that, despite his problems.

The TLDR is: I don't find it impressive to win at a game that nobody else is playing but you.  That is, in its essence, what scamming does. You find the vulnerable people, the not so aware, the less intelligent or the old and you take advantage of them.  It doesn't take much to trick them. 

I can say from personal experience as I have had, unfortunately, some involvement with jims "business dealings" and I was not very impressed with his social engineering skills nor his articulation—although I will give the latter a pass bc English is not his first language. His scams revolve around a few basic concepts that are quite easy to pick up on yourself.

To call someone intelligent, I think, they should have to exhibit a strong possession of multiple types of intelligences.  Jim doesn't display that. A great example is his complete failure at trading cryptocurrency that he attains from his scams.  He always loses it all and trades with leverage, so he shafts himself. He doesn't learn his lesson, repeating the same mistakes and then hides the extent of his failures like every other bad trader does. He displays a lack of ability to learn and a dominance of emotion in his decision making while trading. I've literally watched him do it before in real time.  

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One time I was in a group chat with Jim and Trypt. Jim was talking about how he's in distress and starving.

I say I know this could be a scam but here anyway and gave Jim $50 bucks and a day later he turns and attacks me. Calls me dumb, says I got scammed etc. Whatever. Imove on to get rich, with more knowledge about Jim, and people find Jim brilliant while he keeps getting rekt.

I think it's shameful to think highly of Jim, plus he's proven multiple times how he will fuck you over if you work with him.

 

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One time I was in a group chat with Jim and Trypt. Jim was talking about how he's in distress and starving.

I say I know this could be a scam but here anyway and gave Jim $50 bucks and a day later he turns and attacks me. Calls me dumb, says I got scammed etc. Whatever. Imove on to get rich, with more knowledge about Jim, and people find Jim brilliant while he keeps getting rekt.

I think it's shameful to think highly of Jim, plus he's proven multiple times how he will fuck you over if you work with him.

You really love telling this story. 

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One time I was in a group chat with Jim and Trypt. Jim was talking about how he's in distress and starving.

I say I know this could be a scam but here anyway and gave Jim $50 bucks and a day later he turns and attacks me. Calls me dumb, says I got scammed etc. Whatever. Imove on to get rich, with more knowledge about Jim, and people find Jim brilliant while he keeps getting rekt.

I think it's shameful to think highly of Jim, plus he's proven multiple times how he will fuck you over if you work with him.

You really love telling this story. 

 Why would anyone enjoy telling that story ?

Is it a bad time to talk about Jim's performance ?

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FOTS said: 

Why would anyone with any actual intelligence or expertise waste time communicating it here? It would be like talking to a wall.  Y'all remember when Alice would post about mathematics? probably not bc almost none of you would read it and try to understand wtf she was talking about.

Actually I would read it it's part of how I became friends with Alice. We bounce ideas off eachother every now and then in discord. Alice was the only person who read my papers I would post to SC on rodentology, Greek mythology, plants ect, or any of my poems that I wrote or give a shit, and one of the few people to even care about my art and singing. It can be pretty boring here sometimes, I gave up sharing parts of myself here a long long time ago. 

Alice actually posts amazing things in math and their theoretical physics I find to be especially interesting. Although my forte is more so biology, but theoretical physics is so fucking fun them and I have went on for HOURS. That person is FUCKING BRILLIANT and extremely open minded. Although a lot of people don't know there is more to Alice than just "smart" and Alice is a very cool fucking person in general and very fun to talk to when they are up to it.

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The higher one's intelligence is, the closer they are to the forces of good.

Pretty sure Nature proves otherwise there, it's the ones with higher functioning and some degree of cunning that tend to show a higher capacity for Sadism.

this seems like a gross oversimplification, researchers are surprised at the level of (what appears to be) empathy among and between other species

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Idiot said: 

The higher one's intelligence is, the closer they are to the forces of good.

Pretty sure Nature proves otherwise there, it's the ones with higher functioning and some degree of cunning that tend to show a higher capacity for Sadism.

this seems like a gross oversimplification, researchers are surprised at the level of (what appears to be) empathy among and between other species

 All of these are true to varying degrees. Nature is full of complex ecological relationships that have a diverse array of purposes and benefits. There is no one true model for when sadism, mutualism parasitism, commensalism etc is more beneficial than the alternative.

Yes, higher functioning individuals are more crafty and cruel when they decide to be sadistic. Yes, interspecial and intraspecial mutualism ("empathy" between and among species) is extremely common. Yes, intelligence is linked with self-awareness and introspection; so intelligent people can tend to be more moral. But also, the opposite is equally true for all of these statements.


The problem is that "wholistic" knowledge does not exist. We are talking about the relationships between 1000s and 1000s of species across time, past and present. I dont know anyone who has tried to count which relationship is more common.

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FOTS said: 
Idiot said: 

Pretty sure Nature proves otherwise there, it's the ones with higher functioning and some degree of cunning that tend to show a higher capacity for Sadism.

this seems like a gross oversimplification, researchers are surprised at the level of (what appears to be) empathy among and between other species

 All of these are true to varying degrees. Nature is full of complex ecological relationships that have a diverse array of purposes and benefits. There is no one true model for when sadism, mutualism parasitism, commensalism etc is more beneficial than the alternative.

Yes, higher functioning individuals are more crafty and cruel when they decide to be sadistic. Yes, interspecial and intraspecial mutualism ("empathy" between and among species) is extremely common. Yes, intelligence is linked with self-awareness and introspection; so intelligent people can tend to be more moral. But also, the opposite is equally true for all of these statements.


The problem is that "wholistic" knowledge does not exist. We are talking about the relationships between 1000s and 1000s of species across time, past and present. I dont know anyone who has tried to count which relationship is more common.

 is sadism being mistaken for the cruelty resulting from practices needed for survival?

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