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Delora said: 
Delora said: 

 I just don't agree 🤷

That's fine as long as I'm being clear. 

 So you think cruelty is intelligence?

No, someone can be a cruel idiot. 

Cruelty however is useful to intelligent people so many opt for it, while Wisdom is more likely to understand where that will have things end up. A ruthless mindset also tends to show more determination, and with it they tend to find more reason to acquire knowledge as power. 

People with the largest fortune tend to be less wise, while poor monks and the like tend to be very wise, maybe even at peace, but don't need to be smart to get there.

Check the richest people, check out big business practices that run the world, are those dumb? 

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janitor said: 
FOTS said: 

 I tried to avoid the tendency for rape because the animal kingdom is ripe with it.  Courtship in a majority of species is forcing an unwilling female to reproduce. Its common among less intelligent species just as much as dolphins, monkeys etc. 

Some however enjoy the suffering rather than handling it as something matter of fact,

Anthropomorphism again. Where is there evidence to show the animal enjoys the suffering of the other?

Animal Testing's a lot further along these days than it used to be. 

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janitor said: 

Some however enjoy the suffering rather than handling it as something matter of fact,

Anthropomorphism again. Where is there evidence to show the animal enjoys the suffering of the other?

Animal Testing's a lot further along these days than it used to be. 

 do you have any links to studies on sadism among animals?

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janitor said: 
janitor said: 

Anthropomorphism again. Where is there evidence to show the animal enjoys the suffering of the other?

Animal Testing's a lot further along these days than it used to be. 

 do you have any links to studies on sadism among animals?

 "Numerous studies have determined that indoor cats have a stronger propensity to play with their food. This is due to natural urges to avoid boredom and a bid to satisfy their desire for hunting." This is not exclusive to house cats, it's just one of many examples.

I could write a book about how much more we now know about animals' ability to have emotions and behaviors that were previously thought to be exclusive to humans.  We are not that much more evolved than our ancestors and relatives in the animal kingdom.  In recent years we have confirmed suspicions that many animals are quite sophisticated in their behaviors and ability to display emotion. 

Think of the most intelligent animals as having the emotional intelligence and behavioral patterns of a 4 year old child. There are many striking similarities. 

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unfortunately i do not have time to pull studies as I am quite busy rn. perhaps someone can do that for me.

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I don't know if there's any studies on the sadistic nature of Dolphins but I know they're absolute assholes

 From ripping off fishes heads to use its body as a fleshlight, to gang raping other Dolphins or tormenting / passing around a puffer fish to get high, I gotta say dolphins are my pick for sadistic intelligent animals please excuse any misspellings I'm driving

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FOTS said: 
janitor said: 

Animal Testing's a lot further along these days than it used to be. 

 do you have any links to studies on sadism among animals?

 "Numerous studies have determined that indoor cats have a stronger propensity to play with their food. This is due to natural urges to avoid boredom and a bid to satisfy their desire for hunting." This is not exclusive to house cats, it's just one of many examples.

this aligns with my point, cats do this due to a strong prey drive (and lack of hunger), rather than sadism

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Lenalee said: 

I don't know if there's any studies on the sadistic nature of Dolphins but I know they're absolute assholes

 From ripping off fishes heads to use its body as a fleshlight, to gang raping other Dolphins or tormenting / passing around a puffer fish to get high, I gotta say dolphins are my pick for sadistic intelligent animals please excuse any misspellings I'm driving

 they sound horny

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Also, why is cruelty not smart? 

Again I see why it is not WISE, but there is a lot of cunning behind cruelty, "Revenge is a dish best served cold" and all that. 

 Cause nothing good comes out of cruelty.

A lot of what we appreciate from a position of privilege, as we speak, is built on the backs of cruelty. 

Animal Testing, Child Slavery, Factory Farming, Coal Mining, Cruelty is faster and as such gets to the finish line first. Our most successful companies opt for ruthlessness with some lip service to try to appear kinder towards idiots, it's 9/10 a cover up for something worse if not a pure smokescreen.

That doesn't mean it's a higher intelligence. Animal testing in my opinion is okay. We eat them too, and some scientists lean toward humain practices when testing things with animals.

 


Even Science is being held back by an Altruistic audience, while we got the most progress from nazi experiments and stuff like the Stanford Prison Experiment for psychology, data we'd lack in a kinder, wiser world. 

That first part I assume if an assumption. Today we have people who volunteer for clinical testing, though it may not work out too well, it's a risk they take. 

 


Wisdom is more long lasting, but also less prone to change. A certain level of gumption is needed as someone intelligent, yet a wise person would say it's not worth the time. 

 Just because there is cruelty in the world, doesn't mean it's the mark of a higher intelligence. 

Criminals and delinquents have lower IQ's.

Serial killers, have lower IQ's than an average IQ, and these people are very sadistic, it's pleasant for them to kill. 

In the grand scheme if everyone were sadistic, we wouldn't make it where we are today. We'd be a retarded species.

Sadism is also considered to be a mental disorder. ( Transgenderism in my opinion is also a mental disorder ).

When the human brain is properly developed and we use higher percentages of it. We're certainly not going to become more brutish. If society, that is the people, were also sharper, it would be utterly dumb to fuck and think one can get away with malice. When the world knows you simply by looking at you. you'll either have to behave or be put to shame, or be destroyed for the greater good.  

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Dolphins are fun :x

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