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Lenalee said: 
Xadem said: 
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Lenalee said: 

You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women? 

 I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much. 

You act like Gregarious Trending wouldn't have an impact on society. To leave things as they were by comparison, women being treated as "weaker" risks neotenizing them further overtime, making the gap become even bigger. You instead end up with people wanting to breed with weak, compliant women, which with that and internalized misogyny then lends to that becoming the next generation of people. 

Even if it doesn't, then we can enter the Transhumanism argument of robot parts and experimental steroids. 

But what you're suggesting only benefits men I can't believe that you would be like "what if we could just have women try harder?" as if the problem doesn't lie with the transgendered dudes not trying harder in their male section. They place last in Mens sports, switch over to womens where they have an advantage and place more favorably but you want women to try harder? Shut up.

Your answer is to treat women as the lesser sex. 

 No what I'm suggesting is that trans women have a separate category for them to compete in.

And transmen, and if I were to continue on with this line of questioning I'm beginning to think you don't think a cis-woman should be allowed to compete against cis-men. 

What you're suggesting is that trans woman should be allowed to play in women's sports and that natal women should be made to catch up or try harder so that they could include these men in their sports. 

I'm suggesting that, rather than allow transwomen to play in women's sports that we remove the antiquated gender divide in sports that serves to further misogynistic interests by lumping all people together, then giving society time to breed people into that model. 

Learned helplessness lends to Neotenizing, and through expecting women to not be big and tough you further the stigma that makes it become worse than it could be. 

 In SPORTS BRO??? yeah i don't think they should. 

Men are assholes.

You were literally made from a man, how can you say this... 

Considering my father would beat me and slam my goddamn head into the wall i feel like I've got the right to say men are assholes. 

Are you that bittered with age? What about those that don't do that? 

Still assholes.

Then what does your dad have to do with anything

Sex segregated sports should remain as is, there are mixed sex sport they can compete in if they choose to do so. 

Women and their transsexual counterparts haven't even been competing for long, and you're already bashing it. Are you worried that women will lose en masse?

 Transwomen have a biological advantage and aren't women. They should not be in women's sports, spaces or prisons

 But they have the best of both worlds, both male and female, they represent true unity and a step towards a truly egalitarian society. Change always hurts, and transformations often are met with repression. If everyone were trans then we wouldn't have this issue. That is what we are striving for. 

 Shut up xadem. 

 You think I won't, do you? 

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Xadem said: 

Sex segregated sports should remain as is, there are mixed sex sport they can compete in if they choose to do so. 

Women and their transsexual counterparts haven't even been competing for long, and you're already bashing it. Are you worried that women will lose en masse?

 Transwomen have a biological advantage and aren't women. They should not be in women's sports, spaces or prisons

 But they have the best of both worlds, both male and female, they represent true unity and a step towards a truly egalitarian society. Change always hurts, and transformations often are met with repression. If everyone were trans then we wouldn't have this issue. That is what we are striving for. 

Suddenly reminded of a silly argument I heard over Star Trek: 

o One person asks why there's no trans people in the future, with regressionists joking that they fixed the problem.

o Another poses that gender reconstruction has likely hit such a point of perfection that no one can even tell the difference, citing other technology they have that accomplishes even more amazing things. The practices of their space-culture are also so accepting that no one's scoping for those lingering differences. 

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Men are dominating women's sports now. Smashing records.

Some will say no, it's a woman.

You can experiment with your unisex sports, it'll be as popular as that handicaped Olympics, once the majority is done poking fun at it.

When people like me say men will dominate the unisex Olympics, you WILL know who I'm referring to, without confusion, no matter what they claim to be.

 

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I enjoy the circus stupid people created.

Cheery bye!
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Good said: 

I enjoy the circus stupid people created.

When the T-counts go down there'll be less of it. 

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Real Women should be pissed off. Fake women invading their sports. lol

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Males are stealing our sports. Our hearts were never enough for them they want our scholarships too.

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Wow, this blew up.

mmmmm, 57 posts. Not sure if I have the time to read all of them and respond in much detail.

So what's the tl;dr? I'm really quite neutral.

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And transmen, and if I were to continue on with this line of questioning I'm beginning to think you don't think a cis-woman should be allowed to compete against cis-men.

Are you at all worried about destroying the community around women's sports, though?

I think most of the responses here on both sides are sort of ignoring the arguments from the opposite side.

 

I'm suggesting that, rather than allow transwomen to play in women's sports that we remove the antiquated gender divide in sports that serves to further misogynistic interests by instead lumping all people together

Interesting idea, and I could see this being "fair". Just out of curiosity, how do you imagine that playing out in the boxing heavyweight class?

Now I know this will sound like a troll, but I'm very serious: what about chimpanzees? Should we allow them to play in human sports? We could have, like, a free-for-all death tournament between all the species, including humans, and see who wins. Now that's a show I'd pay to watch.

Do you think it would be better to have men, women, and all, or simply an "all" category?

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The chimp's can't consent to the sport, that'd be the same problem as cock fights. 

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