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Sorry Im on mobile and did not mean to reply for Lena. I guess you get my 2 cents whether you want them or not 

Why even apologize for that? Posts are like prompts or stepping stones for future ones and other people reply to other's discussions all the time. 

Just not buzzed enough yet

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Transwomen aren't women, they don't belong in women's sports or spaces tbh. If these men are placing 8th in the mens division and realized that by self-iding as a woman they can either win or significantly move a few spaces ahead then they deserve to stay in the mens division and lose.

What about Transmen in Men's sports? 

 Shouldn't be in there either, just make a separate category.

Why not though? The main problem people have with transwomen entering women's sports is over a pre-existing advantage. 

If that's the case what's wrong with Transmen in Men's sports, if the premise in this case is heavily reversed against them? 

 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

 No, that only benefits men. Just have a separate Transwomen category.

You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women? 

 I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much. 

You act like Gregarious Trending wouldn't have an impact on society. To leave things as they were by comparison, women being treated as "weaker" risks neotenizing them further overtime, making the gap become even bigger. You instead end up with people wanting to breed with weak, compliant women, which with that and internalized misogyny then lends to that becoming the next generation of people. 

Even if it doesn't, then we can enter the Transhumanism argument of robot parts and experimental steroids. 

 But what you're suggesting only benefits men I can't believe that you would be like "what if we could just have women try harder?" as if the problem doesn't lie with the transgendered dudes not trying harder in their male section. They place last in Mens sports, switch over to womens where they have an advantage and place more favorably but you want women to try harder? Shut up.

 

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At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

No dude youre making this even worse I don't want to go to the bar and see a bunch of women with chins of steel, no ass

While Estrogen's what makes for bigger milkers more padded biceps and a squishier booty, higher T-counts make them more DTF. 

It's even in Red Pill theory to look for arm hair on women, if this continues we may start to see masculine women trend more. 

Also maybe it's more of a me thing, but women with abs are kind of sexy. Abs look bad on everyone if they go overboard but even Japanese RPGs are starting to understand this more overtime: 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

 No, that only benefits men. Just have a separate Transwomen category.

You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women? 

 I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much. 

You act like Gregarious Trending wouldn't have an impact on society. To leave things as they were by comparison, women being treated as "weaker" risks neotenizing them further overtime, making the gap become even bigger. You instead end up with people wanting to breed with weak, compliant women, which with that and internalized misogyny then lends to that becoming the next generation of people. 

Even if it doesn't, then we can enter the Transhumanism argument of robot parts and experimental steroids. 

But what you're suggesting only benefits men I can't believe that you would be like "what if we could just have women try harder?" as if the problem doesn't lie with the transgendered dudes not trying harder in their male section. They place last in Mens sports, switch over to womens where they have an advantage and place more favorably but you want women to try harder? Shut up.

Your answer is to treat women as the lesser sex. 

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At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

No dude youre making this even worse I don't want to go to the bar and see a bunch of women with chins of steel, no ass

While Estrogen's what makes for bigger milkers more padded biceps and a squishier booty, higher T-counts make them more DTF. 

It's even in Red Pill theory to look for arm hair on women, if this continues we may start to see masculine women trend more. 

Also maybe it's more of a me thing, but women with abs are kind of sexy. Abs look bad on everyone if they go overboard but even Japanese RPGs are starting to understand this more overtime: 

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 You realize all women have arm hair right? That you don't have to make men compete in women's sports to have women try harder to emulate them. Also stop being gross.

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Lenalee said: 

At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

No dude youre making this even worse I don't want to go to the bar and see a bunch of women with chins of steel, no ass

While Estrogen's what makes for bigger milkers more padded biceps and a squishier booty, higher T-counts make them more DTF. 

It's even in Red Pill theory to look for arm hair on women, if this continues we may start to see masculine women trend more. 

Also maybe it's more of a me thing, but women with abs are kind of sexy. Abs look bad on everyone if they go overboard but even Japanese RPGs are starting to understand this more overtime: 

 You realize all women have arm hair right? That you don't have to make men compete in women's sports to have women try harder to emulate them. Also stop being gross.

Testosterone translates to higher body hair in both sexes, and thicker hair has become something Red Pill specifically looks for. 

If you want to avoid those types, wear long sleeves. 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

 No, that only benefits men. Just have a separate Transwomen category.

You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women? 

 I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much. 

You act like Gregarious Trending wouldn't have an impact on society. To leave things as they were by comparison, women being treated as "weaker" risks neotenizing them further overtime, making the gap become even bigger. You instead end up with people wanting to breed with weak, compliant women, which with that and internalized misogyny then lends to that becoming the next generation of people. 

Even if it doesn't, then we can enter the Transhumanism argument of robot parts and experimental steroids. 

But what you're suggesting only benefits men I can't believe that you would be like "what if we could just have women try harder?" as if the problem doesn't lie with the transgendered dudes not trying harder in their male section. They place last in Mens sports, switch over to womens where they have an advantage and place more favorably but you want women to try harder? Shut up.

Your answer is to treat women as the lesser sex. 

 No what I'm suggesting is that trans women have a separate category for them to compete in.

What you're suggesting is that trans woman should be allowed to play in women's sports and that natal women should be made to catch up or try harder so that they could include these men in their sports. 

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Lenalee said: 

At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends. 

Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own? 

No dude youre making this even worse I don't want to go to the bar and see a bunch of women with chins of steel, no ass

While Estrogen's what makes for bigger milkers more padded biceps and a squishier booty, higher T-counts make them more DTF. 

It's even in Red Pill theory to look for arm hair on women, if this continues we may start to see masculine women trend more. 

Also maybe it's more of a me thing, but women with abs are kind of sexy. Abs look bad on everyone if they go overboard but even Japanese RPGs are starting to understand this more overtime: 

 You realize all women have arm hair right? That you don't have to make men compete in women's sports to have women try harder to emulate them. Also stop being gross.

Testosterone translates to higher body hair in both sexes, and thicker hair has become something Red Pill specifically looks for. 

If you want to avoid those types, wear long sleeves. 

 You're being gross and regressive, imagine telling women to wear longer sleeves because a certain type of incel might look at their arm hair. Body hair on women is natural. I swear women can't exist without some dude trying to sexualize her in some form. "Arm hair means she's dtf" shut the fuck up and go meet real people.

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