Sorry Im on mobile and did not mean to reply for Lena. I guess you get my 2 cents whether you want them or not
Why even apologize for that? Posts are like prompts or stepping stones for future ones and other people reply to other's discussions all the time.
Transwomen aren't women, they don't belong in women's sports or spaces tbh. If these men are placing 8th in the mens division and realized that by self-iding as a woman they can either win or significantly move a few spaces ahead then they deserve to stay in the mens division and lose.
What about Transmen in Men's sports?
Shouldn't be in there either, just make a separate category.
At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends.
Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own?
No dude youre making this even worse I don't want to go to the bar and see a bunch of women with chins of steel, no ass, just so tranny men can dunk on women in basketball
At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends.
Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own?No, that only benefits men. Just have a separate Transwomen category.
You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women?
I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much.
Women's and men's sports have been predominantly segregated for a reason, in non segregated sports (marathons, etc) men often dominate due to biological reasons others have already mentioned above. A person who has gone through puberty with testosterone has an unfair advantage over someone who has not. Trying to compare that to black vs white is unrealistic because that kind of dimorphism does not exist between different human ethnicities. Never has.
Why not at that point use T-counts as a weight class of sorts?
I don't think it is fair to exclude trans people from sports altogether. I think a third segment should be created for trans people, otherwise transwomen should compete in men's sports.
In the state of how it is now, how many people would be competing in a trans-only bracket if it existed?
Until transitioning is more normalized it sounds very niche.
Along with the advantages of being biologically male, trans women will also never have to experience the biological disadvantages of bio women in sports- Trand women will never have to run a marathon with cramps or keep competing when their tampon is leaking & staining their clothes.
I'd figure that most women undergoing rigorous training are under too much stress to have periods, and women don't have a penis and balls to contend with when running or otherwise aiming to move around with actual grace and footwork. Something like that and broader shoulders can actually lend to more clumsy body movements in martial arts at least.
I've at least seen periods cease over work stress that doesn't have a ton of exercise involved.
I say this half jokingly.
A cage fighting league for women on steroids versus trans women on estrogen and hormone blockers.
You enter the MMA problem, Testosterone would win unless the competition gives room to benefit from cunning or dexterity, like if you could run around the arena to throw rocks at them or something.
I don't even think most trans are trying to fight this battle, I think it's the radicalized people online fighting for trans that got the dialogue all screwed up. The impression that I get as a scholar who watches some edgy leftist YouTube is that the trans movement was hijacked by people who thought they could get more signal boost on their virtues over social media. The 1% of ppl who claim trans who actually transition are usually just wanting to "be" in peace. Yes, I understand that there are now some jacked rapists in women's prisons now, but I don't think transitioning is the problem. The problem is this psychopathic culture of equality at any cost.
The same people that have hijacked the trans movement are now considered trans themselves because of identifying as non binary and shit, so they've both hijacked and are also part of said movement. Few real trans people are talking against transwomen in women's sports, you've got dudes like Fallon Fox bragging about punching terfs(his opponents weren't terfs) and over emotional mediocre men finally feeling like they won something because they're in the women's division where they have an advantage.
Transitioning is the problem when is being allowed to be self diagnosed like it is today, now that wpath has claimed it's not a mental illness (it is) and many places allow for self id.
100%. The pronoun kids garnered enough sympathy to make gender identification in Twitter bios a common thing, and will drag everyone else down with them. The left needs to excise them like a cancer.
I say this half jokingly.
A cage fighting league for women on steroids versus trans women on estrogen and hormone blockers.
You enter the MMA problem, Testosterone would win unless the competition gives room to benefit from cunning or dexterity, like if you could run around the arena to throw rocks at them or something.
Fine.
Gladiator style matches.
At the same time, holding women to the standard of only competing against fellow women might have them not try as hard as if they were made to compete against men. By comparison, if they are made to compete against eachother we may see Testosterone become more of a Gregarious trait in women, lending to higher T-counts in future girls born overtime that could serve to shortening the gap. It isn't just men's natural predisposition towards higher T-counts that lends to the divide between sports, a lot of it is also culturally ingrained. If we want to have Amazonians, then we need to entirely restructure the cultural lens as to change breeding trends.
Again though I think we ought to just throw everyone together and let them steroid the fuck out, get robot parts, etc. Rather than sitting there figuring it isn't fair that someone else has an edge, why not fight to get an edge of their own?No, that only benefits men. Just have a separate Transwomen category.
You don't see women becoming more buff as a good thing for women?
I don't see normalizing this as benefiting women at all. "not try as hard"? They can try as hard as they like but when their opponent have a clear biological advantage it's not going to matter much.
You act like Gregarious Trending wouldn't have an impact on society. To leave things as they were by comparison, women being treated as "weaker" risks neotenizing them further overtime, making the gap become even bigger. You instead end up with people wanting to breed with weak, compliant women, which with that and internalized misogyny then lends to that becoming the next generation of people.
Even if it doesn't, then we can enter the Transhumanism argument of robot parts and experimental steroids.
