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AppleGenius said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xena said: 

Are you kidding me?

Chimps would shred everything in the ring

And yes, chimps are intelligent enough that they could give informed consent.

You're going to have to explain this one to me, that consent would have to be severely limited when even humans struggle with it.

They understand that they're going to fight and indicate that they're wiling to do it. That's consent, no? If not, what is consent?

That isn't enough for a child, so it isn't enough for an animal. 

AppleGenius said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

I always say, the day a woman takes the Men's gold, women around the world will start beating their drums. 

Men aren't impressed with the guys taking the Women's gold.

Boy. I'm I ever glad to be a part of the more powerful gender.

Hmh

I'm honestly very confused by the topic.

As annoying as it is, I don't see a difference between chimpanzees and alligators being considered for the MMA championships and trans women fighting in the women's category. By that I mean that it seems to me like the hallmark for the sports is the biological marker, and even if it weren't, it would take away from a well-established community. There's nothing wrong, per se, about allowing trans women compete in women's sports or making an additional all-genders-mash-up  olympic. However, I also see no problem with chimpanzees entering the olympic.

I'm not trolling.

 Why settle for a Chimp then.

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xena said: 

Are you kidding me?

Chimps would shred everything in the ring

And yes, chimps are intelligent enough that they could give informed consent.

You're going to have to explain this one to me, that consent would have to be severely limited when even humans struggle with it.

They understand that they're going to fight and indicate that they're wiling to do it. That's consent, no? If not, what is consent?

That isn't enough for a child, so it isn't enough for an animal. 

 Wtf? I thought you had a degree in psych?

Many many great apes have learned sign language.

All you have to do is show them humans fighting and show them that the humans are hurt and bleeding.

Unlike dogs (who don't have the type of depth perception and colour vision to process moving images on tv and know what they are) you can show apes a fight on tv.

Then you gesture to the ape that s/he is invited to come and fight the humans.

You could get one who already knows sign language. That might be safer, actually. So there are no mistakes about where or who the ape would be fighting. Otherwise the ape might get excited enough to shred the messenger.

Spatial Mind said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

I always say, the day a woman takes the Men's gold, women around the world will start beating their drums. 

Men aren't impressed with the guys taking the Women's gold.

Boy. I'm I ever glad to be a part of the more powerful gender.

Hmh

I'm honestly very confused by the topic.

As annoying as it is, I don't see a difference between chimpanzees and alligators being considered for the MMA championships and trans women fighting in the women's category. By that I mean that it seems to me like the hallmark for the sports is the biological marker, and even if it weren't, it would take away from a well-established community. There's nothing wrong, per se, about allowing trans women compete in women's sports or making an additional all-genders-mash-up  olympic. However, I also see no problem with chimpanzees entering the olympic.

I'm not trolling.

 Why settle for a Chimp then.

r00d.

Gorillas are gentle, loving creatures. They're vegetarians.

They prefer to play nicely together and only fight when they're threatened.

Unfortunately, that is most of the time, now.

Most gorilla species are also endangered.

Chimps and baboons are your best bet for fighting humans.

Blue_Jay said: 

If we bring in the chimps, then eventually all animals will be included into the olympics and human's will get smoked in every category. The neighbors mutt down the street would smoke Usain bolt. I once saw my cat turbo it, I was really impressed. The house cat can be clocked at 50 klm and carry on to break records we'll never see in this lifetime or ever. 

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Back on topic. Man dominates women's 1650 yard women's freestyle.

- Overlapped everyone

- Smashed 2nd place by 38 seconds ( He literally could've pretended to be sleeping for 37 seconds as the race started and still win )

- The crowd held their cheers for 2nd place.

It's not the first time the crowd favored real women in women's sports.

Transgenderism is a dysfunctional mental illness. If society appeases it, we'll suffer. 

Another thing to note, and this is nothing against all queer people, but while some of them are real nasty, it's always some faggot calling men toxic, but really when girly men get their way like this, it's male toxicity. An emasculated man, but a man nonetheless.   

 Agreed (except for the part about transgender being a mental illness. I'm still undecided about where the transgender ends and the mental illness begins.)

I mean, I'm willing to indulge people's perversions up to a point, but not when the perversions are rooted in hate. If you want to dress up in a Nazi uniform in your bedroom and beat the hell out of your leather bear lover, than u be you. But if you want to wear a Nazi uniform and beat the hell out of random people in a public park, you're a criminal, a maniac, and you're not welcome.

These man babies do this shit bc they're too omega to compete with other men.

They hate women bc  that's what men are taught from birth.

So they get kicked in the teeth all through adolescence and they're angry about it.

So rather than getting over their shit and finding smthg like basketweaving or w/e that they are good at, they have to go take their shit out on some poor woman.

There's a Canadian tween show I used to watch with my neighbour and her kids. Crazy competitive woman set up a game of musical chairs for some kids. But she in her late 30s insisted on playing. Musical chairs. With the 4 year olds lol

So ofc she won. And she cackled maniacally like a Batman villain while the kids cried.

I always suspected that little scene was some clever writer's protest against trannies in women's sports  :)

Xena said:

 

Blue_Jay said: 

If we bring in the chimps, then eventually all animals will be included into the olympics and human's will get smoked in every category. The neighbors mutt down the street would smoke Usain bolt. I once saw my cat turbo it, I was really impressed. The house cat can be clocked at 50 klm and carry on to break records we'll never see in this lifetime or ever. 

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Back on topic. Man dominates women's 1650 yard women's freestyle.

- Overlapped everyone

- Smashed 2nd place by 38 seconds ( He literally could've pretended to be sleeping for 37 seconds as the race started and still win )

- The crowd held their cheers for 2nd place.

It's not the first time the crowd favored real women in women's sports.

Transgenderism is a dysfunctional mental illness. If society appeases it, we'll suffer. 

Another thing to note, and this is nothing against all queer people, but while some of them are real nasty, it's always some faggot calling men toxic, but really when girly men get their way like this, it's male toxicity. An emasculated man, but a man nonetheless.   

 Agreed (except for the part about transgender being a mental illness. I'm still undecided about where the transgender ends and the mental illness begins.)

I mean, I'm willing to indulge people's perversions up to a point, but not when the perversions are rooted in hate. If you want to dress up in a Nazi uniform in your bedroom and beat the hell out of your leather bear lover, than u be you. But if you want to wear a Nazi uniform and beat the hell out of random people in a public park, you're a criminal, a maniac, and you're not welcome.

These man babies do this shit bc they're too omega to compete with other men.

They hate women bc  that's what men are taught from birth.

So they get kicked in the teeth all through adolescence and they're angry about it.

So rather than getting over their shit and finding smthg like basketweaving or w/e that they are good at, they have to go take their shit out on some poor woman.

There's a Canadian tween show I used to watch with my neighbour and her kids. Crazy competitive woman set up a game of musical chairs for some kids. But she in her late 30s insisted on playing. Musical chairs. With the 4 year olds lol

So ofc she won. And she cackled maniacally like a Batman villain while the kids cried.

I always suspected that little scene was some clever writer's protest against trannies in women's sports  :)

 Transgenderism is without a doubt, a disorder. People are taking hormones to, as they say, "correct" their gender. Really they are mutilating themselves. 

The ones that just dress up are fine, but the ones that insist they ARE the opposite gender, and demand the world recognize them as such are crazy like the the ones who demand they be seen as some gender that's been alien to our civilization for ages.

If you're having issues with gender identity and the public acceptance, then you're mentally ill. When we appease mental illness, we then see dysfunction. Now whenever a transgender in included, the woman will get smoked.

I'll tell you this. If they come out in numbers, then women simply won't make the cut, unless, the founders of the sport set a cis gender quota for women, which isn't happening because that would be considered discriminatory. The Women's WNBA could be packed with men in the future, though I have to admit, the action will be better ngl. 

Xena said: 

Turncoat said: 

AppleGenius said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xena said: 

Are you kidding me?

Chimps would shred everything in the ring

And yes, chimps are intelligent enough that they could give informed consent.

You're going to have to explain this one to me, that consent would have to be severely limited when even humans struggle with it.

They understand that they're going to fight and indicate that they're wiling to do it. That's consent, no? If not, what is consent?

That isn't enough for a child, so it isn't enough for an animal. 

 Wtf? I thought you had a degree in psych?

Many many great apes have learned sign language.

All you have to do is show them humans fighting and show them that the humans are hurt and bleeding.

Unlike dogs (who don't have the type of depth perception and colour vision to process moving images on tv and know what they are) you can show apes a fight on tv.

Then you gesture to the ape that s/he is invited to come and fight the humans.

You could get one who already knows sign language. That might be safer, actually. So there are no mistakes about where or who the ape would be fighting. Otherwise the ape might get excited enough to shred the messenger.

 

You're really trying to tell me that apes can consent to more of a degree than children? 

Dude, totally missed the opportunity to label "transtheletes".

I actually don't think it would be such a bad idea to ask chimpanzees to consent and fight in MMA. I don't see the problem. Firstly, if you elevate them on the level of humans, then it's speciesism to deny them rights to MMA. If you don't elevate them on the level of humans, then it's also not a problem because, frankly, they're animals. We anyway eat animals and treat them like shit. It's not then a question of whether or not they can consent, which they can.

The reason we have things in place for children is because they're not mature enough. They will be able to make better decisions later in life. However, if there is, somewhere, an incredibly smart person with an IQ of 180, they might look at your decisions and go, "yeah he's not smart enough to make informed decisions". So really only incredibly smart people can consent.

It's not just a question of pure intellect, you know, we've just set the bar where the average dumbass is. We can move it.

Chimpanzees that identify as humans are humans, first of all.

Do you have Bayesian inference to justify any of your claims?