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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said:
Inq hasn't even responded on the matter.

Do you take his silence as an implied victory? 

No? Yeah fuck off with the stirring.

Uh... 

Kestrel said:
Inquirer wrote an entire paragraph of hot air and got contradicted in a single sentence.

 

Inq hasn't disagreed yet, you have, you raised counter points which were shot down.

You shot down my... 'counter points'? 

I've been asking you to elaborate, and your reply is effectively "It'd be autistic to discuss my knowledge" and "keeping it short is keeping it smart". 

 I'm not playing this game with you, make a cited point against my argument or I'm not interested.

You seem threatened, you've even begun flooding this topic with images again as of this declaration. 

Fine then, lets start with Columbus. What are his, err, 'achievements' (as opposed to atrocities)?

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Kestrel said: 

Already it seems that the root of the problem has been found: You like your information to be bite sized. 

Learning real history takes being able to wrestle with a high volume of words. 

 It's more like you lack an understanding of a historical period that's taught at a middle school level. You want more answers without raising any of your own so you can find more spaces to weasel into. it's why you're taking these measures in an attempt to agitate me into answering you. You've spent more time asking me for more testimony when you couldn't rebuke my initial one.

I want to hear it in your own words, yet you refuse to give them. I could WikiPHD this shit in an afternoon, but that's pointless when I'd rather have your spin on it. Only you can provide that, and you are being withholding out of some sense of feeling threatened. 

It'd be stupid for me to fill in the answers for you just so you could go "Yeah, I knew that" after the fact. You're aiming to use an implied sense of intelligence that you refuse to prove because "Autism", yet when someone else makes good points you say they're just trying to look smart. Why not present what you know instead of just puffing out your chest and bullshit credentials? 

Sorry man, but History doesn't care about your feelings. You need to actually state some instead of just gushing all over this topic. 

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said:
Inq hasn't even responded on the matter.

Do you take his silence as an implied victory? 

No? Yeah fuck off with the stirring.

Uh... 

Kestrel said:
Inquirer wrote an entire paragraph of hot air and got contradicted in a single sentence.

Yeah, completely forget me saying that was in jest and definitely highlight something else entirely. A contradiction isn't a shutdown, especially when he's only spoken once. I've been waiting for his reply and I was using that as part of the reason I haven't delved into dissecting the Renaissance.

Inq hasn't disagreed yet, you have, you raised counter points which were shot down.

You shot down my... 'counter points'? 

I've been asking you to elaborate, and your reply is effectively "It'd be autistic to discuss my knowledge" and "keeping it short is keeping it smart". 

 I'm not playing this game with you, make a cited point against my argument or I'm not interested.

You seem threatened, you've even begun flooding this topic with images again as of this declaration. 

Yeah insult me and tell me im a former shadow of myself at the end of every nonsensical quidbit you post for 3 pages and you might just get that. It's clear you don't care for actual debate. Also, I've been posting fasc wave make whatever justifications you want 


Fine then, lets start with Columbus. What are his, err, 'achievements' (as opposed to atrocities)?

 Columbus was less of an innovator and more of the start of the race to colonize the Americas. Without his intial discovery people like Galielo and Magellean probably wouldn't have come to fruition. This had a massive effect on Europe, it was their equivalent of the space race. 

edit: The need for navigation also spurred astrology interests. It was during this time we discovered that we weren't the center of the universe and other base important principles surrounding astrology

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said:
Inq hasn't even responded on the matter.

Do you take his silence as an implied victory? 

No? Yeah fuck off with the stirring.

Uh... 

Kestrel said:
Inquirer wrote an entire paragraph of hot air and got contradicted in a single sentence.

Yeah, completely forget me saying that was in jest and definitely highlight something else entirely. A contradiction isn't a shutdown, especially when he's only spoken once. I've been waiting for his reply and I was using that as part of the reason I haven't delved into dissecting the Renaissance.

Where'd you say it was in jest? I just saw you retracting your former confidence as we kept talking about your misconception. 

Inq hasn't disagreed yet, you have, you raised counter points which were shot down.

You shot down my... 'counter points'? 

I've been asking you to elaborate, and your reply is effectively "It'd be autistic to discuss my knowledge" and "keeping it short is keeping it smart". 

 I'm not playing this game with you, make a cited point against my argument or I'm not interested.

You seem threatened, you've even begun flooding this topic with images again as of this declaration. 

Yeah insult me and tell me im a former shadow of myself at the end of every nonsensical quidbit you post for 3 pages and you might just get that. It's clear you don't care for actual debate. Also, I've been posting fasc wave make whatever justifications you want 

It's concern, and in your current state you're more liable to respond to punchier language. It can't be done softly in your case, so it has to be butting heads. 

Fine then, lets start with Columbus. What are his, err, 'achievements' (as opposed to atrocities)?

Columbus was less of an innovator and more of the start of the race to colonize the Americas.

He did this by getting hopelessly lost on his way to India during a storm, and then proceeded to commit to the atrocities that you often hear The Left spouting about him. He's if anything a bit of a mad gambler who stumbled onto this by chance, how does he deserve to be among the other names you've listed? 

Without his intial discovery people like Galielo and Magellean probably wouldn't have come to fruition. This had a massive effect on Europe, it was their equivalent of the space race. 

So this is a Time Lord point about someone being in the right place at the right time, only? 

edit: The need for navigation also spurred astrology interests.

Wait, Astrology

It was during this time we discovered that we weren't the center of the universe and other base important principles surrounding astrology

Human history has definitely been looking at the stars since before 1492. 

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Kestrel said: 

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 Those fucking Nazi fascist attackers suck.

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Kestrel said: 

Columbus was less of an innovator and more of the start of the race to colonize the Americas. Without his intial discovery people like Galielo and Magellean probably wouldn't have come to fruition. This had a massive effect on Europe, it was their equivalent of the space race. 

edit: The need for navigation also spurred astrology interests. It was during this time we discovered that we weren't the center of the universe and other base important principles surrounding astrology

 Interesting. Could you explain how Columbus lead to Galileo? Just a quick summary? I'm not familiar with this.

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Kestrel said: 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. [...]

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements.

edit: I know you're swedish but try not to throw your race under the bus so quickly(I had to)

How did you contradict me?

We could go into the Renaissance and compare it to the golden eras of other civilizations but this skips one of the main points I made in my post, namely that you gradually shrink and move forward the time frame in which the white race was superior. The Renaissance is commonly thought to have occurred during the 15th and 16th centuries. That's 600 years ago. Not 800 years ago and definitely not "for most of history".

I see you still went back to the original claim in later posts though:

Kestrel said: 

Firstly, argument goes from whites leading through most of allotted history(true), whites being the dominant innovators for the last 800 years(true) and finally my own quote saying this only really changes getting closer to the BC era(true). Which is where all of the inventions Inq listed were made with the exception of gun powder. Inquirer also cites the military conquest of the mongols as if it equates out to innovation, by this metric even Shaka Zulu's strong arm of Africa would be considered innovative.

How can you argue Whites lead through most of allotted (?) history and then arbitrarily dismiss everything that happened before Christ? Do you also actually consider Europe to have been superior to the rest of the world during the Middle Ages?

I mentioned the Mongols not only for contrast since they were "basic" nomads but also because they loved to adopt and improve upon inventions, especially Chinese ones, and "share" them with the rest of Eurasia. Such as using gunpowder hand grenades against the Japanese. They expanded upon numerous other, more unquantifiable areas too, such as military organization, meritocracy and long-distance communication (they arguably set up the first real "pony express"). The difference between the Mongols and Zulu is the impact they had on the world, where the Mongols' absolutely dwarf Zulu's.

No one really denies the West slowly surpassed the rest of the world during the early modern era and absolutely dominated it since the industrial revolution. You've made a much larger claim however and seem surprised and annoyed when shown you're wrong. Again, the words you use are important and it's usually telling that whenever someone starts going on about race they also whitewash or misconstrue large parts of history to fit their narrative.

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Kestrel said:

 I support what the Nazi party was doing for the most part and identify as a fascist. 

 Even the sterilization of mixed kids? 

 sterilization of mixed kids was just an extreme means to the agreeable end of ethnostates. Immigration doesn't work imo.

lol! tfw you been so radicalized online you support your own castration #darwin

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i really wish i had a purpose that didn't require me to delude myself 

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