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Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meanings are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

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Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements.

edit: I know you're swedish but try not to throw your race under the bus so quickly(I had to)

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements

Which ones? 

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements

Which ones? 

 It's really a countless number of inventions, discovery of production methods and works of art. It was a golden age of human progress. Da vinci, Michelanglo, Machiavelli, Columbus, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Galilei, the list goes on and on. All of them historical giants that changed the world, statue material. You'd find a hard time naming another period of advancement like this asides maybe the Enlightement(also predominantly white).

I really don't know why it's so hard to admit whites are historically accredited with the majority of achievements, this really only changes when you get closer to the BC era

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements

Which ones? 

 It's really a countless number of inventions, discovery of production methods and works of art. It was a golden age of human progress. Da vinci, Michelanglo, Machiavelli, Columbus, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Galilei, the list goes on and on. All of them historical giants that changed the world, statue material. You'd find a hard time naming another period of advancement like this asides maybe the Enlightement(also predominantly white).

So your argument against Paper, Gunpowder, and The Compass is... Art and Philosophy? 

Oh god are you really going to say other cultures don't have a good handle on that shit? 

I really don't know why it's so hard to admit whites are historically accredited with the majority of achievements, this really only changes when you get closer to the BC era

It's not about admission, it's a discussion. I'm myself personally not an expert in History, but even in my light dabbling I wouldn't go as far as to put China down like that. 

It's not like they're just ninjas, fireworks, and sweatshops. 

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Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 
Kestrel said: 

"So let's pretend for a moment that the Chinese people didn't invent... oh about half of everything for the bulk of human history."

I believe you. I'll take your chinaboo rant as reality that they are the founders of half of all meaningful innovations. It definitely isn't a cope for a harsh right wing opinion you dont like. There definitely hasn't been a certain race that's had a monopoly on the most innovative and successful countries for the last 800 years. 

800 years ago Europe was clearly behind both the Middle East and Asia (and arguably other parts of the world too) in terms of innovation, technology and development. The Mongols went as far as Poland and Croatia in the 13th century, only turning back because Ögedei died back in China. Europe was clearly not superior to them. China invented gunpowder, paper, the compass (though it's speculated a form of compass may have been used by the Olmecs in Mexico), printing, the stirrup... all technologies Europe only really picked up during the middle ages. So your claim that "Whites" were "the lead innovators of most of history" simply isn't true. One might even consider it somewhat racist to actively dismiss all of that history just to artificially elevate one race...

Words and their meaning are important. If you meant "Whites" should be proud of their technological achievements the last couple of centuries then say that, not that they dominated all of history.

 I disagree. They were far ahead of anyone else during the renaissance period and it's noted to have some of civilizations most scientific and cultural achievements

Which ones? 

 It's really a countless number of inventions, discovery of production methods and works of art. It was a golden age of human progress. Da vinci, Michelanglo, Machiavelli, Columbus, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Galilei, the list goes on and on. All of them historical giants that changed the world, statue material. You'd find a hard time naming another period of advancement like this asides maybe the Enlightement(also predominantly white).

So your argument against Paper, Gunpowder, and The Compass is... Art and Philosophy? 

I think you have an underdeveloped grasp on history if you take Art and Philosophy lightly. It literally ushers in and carves in new paradigms and sociology trends. I'd argue some of China's most shining achievements are their cultural works.

Secondly, the musket, printing press and naval compass were made in the Renassiance from those. They improved the design while the Chinese couldn't, all while keeping on with their own list of original works


Oh god are you really going to say other cultures don't have a good handle on that shit? 

Not when compared to whites.

I really don't know why it's so hard to admit whites are historically accredited with the majority of achievements, this really only changes when you get closer to the BC era

It's not about admission, it's a discussion. I'm myself personally not an expert in History, but even in my light dabbling I wouldn't go as far as to put China down like that. 

It's not like they're just ninjas, fireworks, and sweatshops. 

 They aren't. But China really didn't have too much going for it imo. The things I find the most notable are confucianism, taoism, eastern philosophy as a whole, their unique architecture and some of their medieval armor/weapon designs. But its really nothing  Japan didn't do better imo

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Wait is syst a white supremacist now?

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#8 said: 

Wait is syst a white supremacist now?

 if you tell the truth, is this being a white supremacist?

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holmes said: 
#8 said: 

Wait is syst a white supremacist now?

 if you tell the truth, is this being a white supremacist?

 you know the answer to that in today's age

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