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Sex: Your genitalia. There are two, with a "third" being birth defects making external sexual identification impossible and this is called intersex.

Gender: Your mental sense of self. There are two, with a "third" and "fourth" being birth defects which cause people to have a disparity between their physical sex and mental gender, this is called transmale or transfemale, with the term gendering based on mental gender not physical sex.

Gender Expression: How you express yourself. This has about as much to do with the other two as favorite ice cream flavor. Traditionally influenced by social expectations, lately, the rules are breaking down because a larger and larger percentage of society is realizing that it's stupid for society to say how a person can and can't dress/act based on their genitals.

Gender roles: the mode of behavior and dress that people are expected to conform to based on their genitals and arbitrary traditions.

People who think you can have no gender, multiple genders, made-up genders, or fluctuate between genders are simply getting gender and gender roles/expression confused.
Actual transgender people, for whatever reason, feel one gender and physically present as another. Therapy does nothing. Drugs do nothing. The ONLY thing that helps is social transition (some people elect for surgical change, but not all do, for any number of reasons) and acceptance as their mental gender.

People who think they're fruit bats are helped by medication and therapy, dressing as a fruit bat doesn't help. Your analogy was shit.

Virus stated: source post

 

Primal stated: source post

gender becomes obsolete...

Bullshit. 

What transition? 

It only exists when society panders to the mentally ill. 

Um... gender may BE bullshit to you, but it plays a very real role in life as it has become known to this point... do you see "gender" as something put on the masses?  I see it as a by product of how our society has evolved... completely psychological... obsolete?... yes... most jobs/titles/practices/hobbies can be performed and well done by either sex... but for the record... this is me...

Semantics at play here Virus, GENDER, is male or female. Of course that is Real. Further to which , I agree most jobs/titles/practices/hobbies can be performed and well done by either sex. That is not the point of the OP though,

what does that tell ya?

Male. 

Virus stated: source post

transition to a society of genderless boundaries... sound good?

Makes no sense. Gender exists, jobs and whatnot all exist. Why make an issue of a non issue and paint it something it never was to begin with?

Freakiest stated: source post

Sex: Your genitalia. There are two, with a "third" being birth defects making external sexual identification impossible and this is called intersex.

Anomalies so rare as to be irrelevant.

Gender: Your mental sense of self. There are two, with a "third" and "fourth" being birth defects which cause people to have a disparity between their physical sex and mental gender, this is called transmale or transfemale, with the term gendering based on mental gender not physical sex.

It's called Bullshit of the mentally ill. 

Gender Expression: How you express yourself. This has about as much to do with the other two as favorite ice cream flavor. Traditionally influenced by social expectations, lately, the rules are breaking down because a larger and larger percentage of society is realizing that it's stupid for society to say how a person can and can't dress/act based on their genitals.

If that is the case, why scream about it? Do it, and shut up , but then don't squack about demanding tolerance and acceptance for your special snowflake status. 

Gender roles: the mode of behavior and dress that people are expected to conform to based on their genitals and arbitrary traditions.

Irrelevant, unless being enforced. In some countries that is a REAL problem, but not so in the West, ( which is where the vast majority of crazy is acting up..lol )

People who think you can have no gender, multiple genders, made-up genders, or fluctuate between genders are simply getting gender and gender roles/expression confused.

They are mentally ill or stupid.

Actual transgender people, for whatever reason, feel one gender and physically present as another. Therapy does nothing. Drugs do nothing. The ONLY thing that helps is social transition (some people elect for surgical change, but not all do, for any number of reasons) and acceptance as their mental gender.

That is a fail as well...lol...check the research on that. 

People who think they're fruit bats are helped by medication and therapy, dressing as a fruit bat doesn't help. Your analogy was shit.

LOL....no, it was quite accurate. I can traipse around in a fruit bat costume and I will never be a bat, same with transgenders...

So I'm not sure if I'm posing this correctly so let me know if you don't understand me.

Even when a person under goes hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery, and they have all the appropriate parts for the gender they feel they are, would you still see them as the gender that was assigned to them at birth or would you believe them to be the physical gender they now appear?

Treatment continued...

Beyond talk therapy, many people choose to take at least some steps to bring their physical appearance in line with how they feel inside. They might change the way they dress or go by a different name. They may also take medicine or have surgery to change their appearance. Possible treatments include:

• Puberty blockers -- A young person in early puberty with gender dysphoria might ask to be prescribed hormones (testosterone orestrogen) that would suppress physical changes. Before making that decision, the young person should talk with a pediatrician and sometimes a psychiatrist about the pros and cons of taking these hormones, especially at a young age.
• Hormones â€“ Teens or adults may take the hormones estrogen ortestosterone to develop traits of the sex that they identify with.
• Surgery â€“ Some people choose to have complete sex-reassignment surgery. This used to be called a sex-change operation. But not everyone does. People may choose to have only some procedures done in order to bring their looks more in line with their feelings.

With their therapists, people choose the treatment that is right for them based on what they want and what they already look like.

After transitioning, a person may no longer feel dysphoria. But the person may still need therapy. Friends, family, co-workers, potential employers, and religious groups can sometimes have a hard time understanding when someone’s gender appears to change. This and other challenges of transitioning can call for professional help.

Some young people and even adults may have mixed feelings about their physical gender. They often find it useful to talk with a counselor before or after taking steps to become who they feel they truly are.

If gender dysphoria continues past puberty, studies show that the young person will likely continue to feel that way. For people who feel long-term that their body does not match their internal sense of gender, it is not a choice. It is a burden they didn't choose, and they need professional and social support.

AIena stated: source post

So I'm not sure if I'm posing this correctly so let me know if you don't understand me.

Even when a person under goes hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery, and they have all the appropriate parts for the gender they feel they are, would you still see them as the gender that was assigned to them at birth or would you believe them to be the physical gender they now appear?

Alena, even the choice of words makes me wonder how incredibly effective the programming is on people....

#1. You are not ''assigned" a gender at birth....you are BORN male or female. And those are the only possibilities. It is NOT a choice. It is what it is. 

#2. They can attach six penises to enhance their male "aura' and remain a female, as that is what is in the DNA. Full stop. 

To do other, is to validate their bullshit, and I won't. That is my choice. 

frunk stated: source post

 

Treatment continued...

 

Beyond talk therapy, many people choose to take at least some steps to bring their physical appearance in line with how they feel inside. They might change the way they dress or go by a different name. They may also take medicine or have surgery to change their appearance. Possible treatments include:

• Puberty blockers -- A young person in early puberty with gender dysphoria might ask to be prescribed hormones (testosterone orestrogen) that would suppress physical changes. Before making that decision, the young person should talk with a pediatrician and sometimes a psychiatrist about the pros and cons of taking these hormones, especially at a young age.

INSANE. They are confused kids which is pretty normal....unless the parents are more messed up. 

• Hormones â€“ Teens or adults may take the hormones estrogen ortestosterone to develop traits of the sex that they identify with.

DAFUQ?

Surgery â€“ Some people choose to have complete sex-reassignment surgery. This used to be called a sex-change operation. But not everyone does. People may choose to have only some procedures done in order to bring their looks more in line with their feelings.

Feelings are NOT Facts.

With their therapists, people choose the treatment that is right for them based on what they want and what they already look like.

After transitioning, a person may no longer feel dysphoria. But the person may still need therapy. Friends, family, co-workers, potential employers, and religious groups can sometimes have a hard time understanding when someone’s gender appears to change. This and other challenges of transitioning can call for professional help.

This is such horseshit to begin with. And society is being forced into acceptance via guilt and boohoo. 

Some young people and even adults may have mixed feelings about their physical gender. They often find it useful to talk with a counselor before or after taking steps to become who they feel they truly are.

If gender dysphoria continues past puberty, studies show that the young person will likely continue to feel that way. For people who feel long-term that their body does not match their internal sense of gender, it is not a choice. It is a burden they didn't choose, and they need professional and social support.

They are mentally ill. Full stop. You can't argue with the physical reality of your own biology about 'feeling" you should be the other gender. Pandering to that level of absurdity is utter madness. 

To do other, is to validate their bullshit, and I won't. That is my choice. 

Well, profesionals do.

frunk stated: source post

 

Treatment continued...

 

Beyond talk therapy, many people choose to take at least some steps to bring their physical appearance in line with how they feel inside. They might change the way they dress or go by a different name. They may also take medicine or have surgery to change their appearance. Possible treatments include:

• Puberty blockers -- A young person in early puberty with gender dysphoria might ask to be prescribed hormones (testosterone orestrogen) that would suppress physical changes. Before making that decision, the young person should talk with a pediatrician and sometimes a psychiatrist about the pros and cons of taking these hormones, especially at a young age.

INSANE. They are confused kids which is pretty normal....unless the parents are more messed up. 

• Hormones â€“ Teens or adults may take the hormones estrogen ortestosterone to develop traits of the sex that they identify with.

DAFUQ?

 

Surgery â€“ Some people choose to have complete sex-reassignment surgery. This used to be called a sex-change operation. But not everyone does. People may choose to have only some procedures done in order to bring their looks more in line with their feelings.

Feelings are NOT Facts.

With their therapists, people choose the treatment that is right for them based on what they want and what they already look like.

After transitioning, a person may no longer feel dysphoria. But the person may still need therapy. Friends, family, co-workers, potential employers, and religious groups can sometimes have a hard time understanding when someone’s gender appears to change. This and other challenges of transitioning can call for professional help.

This is such horseshit to begin with. And society is being forced into acceptance via guilt and boohoo. 

Some young people and even adults may have mixed feelings about their physical gender. They often find it useful to talk with a counselor before or after taking steps to become who they feel they truly are.

If gender dysphoria continues past puberty, studies show that the young person will likely continue to feel that way. For people who feel long-term that their body does not match their internal sense of gender, it is not a choice. It is a burden they didn't choose, and they need professional and social support.

They are mentally ill. Full stop. You can't argue with the physical reality of your own biology about 'feeling" you should be the other gender. Pandering to that level of absurdity is utter madness. 

Although many people use the terms sex and gender interchangeably, they mean quite different things. Indeed, sex and gender don’t necessarily agree. Gender is based on culturally accepted norms — attitudes or behaviors that are typical for males or females. Gender identity has to do instead with our inner sense of who we are. People often express their gender identity by how they dress or behave.

Meanwhile, sex is determined at conception by the genes each of us inherits from mom and dad. It may become visible by ultrasound several months into pregnancy.

Gender is how you feel. Sex is not.

Well, profesionals do.

..lmao...well...if I were paid to listen to that BS...I would too...LOL

Frunk, with all due respect. That is nothing but an argument of semantics;

Gender is how you feel. Sex is not.

Gender = Male  / Female

Sex = Male / Female

How you dress wrt your current culture or elsewhere, is IRRELEVANT. Has nothing to do with your/ my physical reality. If I  choose to run around dressed in men's shirt and shorts....So fooking what? I am and remain as female as I ever have in my birthday suit. 

Note when i said:  Gender identity has to do instead with our inner sense of who we are.

Gender and sex do not always match up. 

Sex: Male  Gender: Female

Sex: Male Gender: Male

Sex: Female Gender: Female

Sex: Female Gender: Male

This brings us to the concept of gender, which is meaningfully different from biological sex. Gender identity is a subjective feeling of “maleness” and “femaleness.” In most cases, biological (genetic) males have a male gender identity, and biological females have a female gender identity. When a disconnection occurs between a person's biological sex and his or her gender identity, however, an uncomfortable gender dysphoria can arise. This persistent negative emotional state is often a factor in the decision to undergo sex reassignment surgery, which many transsexuals choose to do.

Primal stated: source post

Well, profesionals do.

..lmao...well...if I were paid to listen to that BS...I would too...LOL

 

 

What you just said can apply to depression, anxiety, PTSD, aspd, bd, bpd, and many other disorders.

frunk stated: source post

Note when i said:  Gender identity has to do instead with our inner sense of who we are.

Gender and sex do not always match up. 

Sex: Male  Gender: Female

Sex: Male Gender: Male

Sex: Female Gender: Female

Sex: Female Gender: Male

 

This brings us to the concept of gender, which is meaningfully different from biological sex. Gender identity is a subjective feeling of “maleness” and “femaleness.” In most cases, biological (genetic) males have a male gender identity, and biological females have a female gender identity. When a disconnection occurs between a person's biological sex and his or her gender identity, however, an uncomfortable gender dysphoria can arise. This persistent negative emotional state is often a factor in the decision to undergo sex reassignment surgery, which many transsexuals choose to do.

All you have  there is a case for mental illness...nothing more or or less...and should be treated as such. NOT Pandered to...which is quite different.