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lol

some people are not worth the effort.

 

Muslims statistically like Islamic laws(like stoning gays), even moderate ones. The only difference is the moderate ones do not engage in action. But they approve of it. Most Muslims live in Islamic countries, where this happens daily.

The Muslim worlds are too backwards in development, they are incompatible with current civilized standards. They are still in the medieval ages. Casual folks in medieval times were not nice people either.

Until the common people of Muslim origins want to evolve themselves, there is nothing we can do to help them.
A Muslim country with a dictator is better then a Muslim country without one. A dictator is required to control the masses. The moment a dictator is overthrown by foreign forces(like the USA), there is no one to control all the cults and terror groups that are fanatically faithful in their version of Islam. As a result usually an even worse dictator eventually takes control, but chaos has already erupted and multiple groups form, each fighting each other and causing general death and destruction, both in the country they are and in the entire world. At the end of the day, more death and misery was spread thanks to overthrowing a dictator, then if he was left to power.

This is because of the mindset of the Muslim people, because of their culture, their religion and their slowed development. Why they are still stuck in the middle ages, i am not sure, as i do not know their history well enough.

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There you go again ThenFuckIt, speaking reason. Well said. Of course, I am sure you will be "accused' of 'ranting', and the accuser will conveniently ignore the fires burning in their own front yard, but yap senselessly about Brevik like that suggests something of a fundamental nature....reads like a Red Herring to me...

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Some women really don't want equality to begin with, and "as people" those women are despicable.

I will agree with you on that Spatial. Those are snivelers. They are not the vast majority. However, those screeching SJW sorts are the ones that make the rest look terrible. And, of course, the transgender wonderschmucks. 

 

How do you think a scenario of that nature should work? What would you personally prefer? 

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

This is because of the mindset of the Muslim people, because of their culture, their religion and their slowed development. Why they are still stuck in the middle ages, i am not sure, as i do not know their history well enough.

"Ash'arism or Ashʿari theology is an early theological school of Islam (Sunni in particular) founded by Imam Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari (d. 324 AH / 936 AD)."

"Ash'arism is considered to be a key school of Sunni Islam."

"While al-Ash'ari opposed the views of the Mu'tazili school for its over-emphasis on reason, he was also opposed to the views of certain schools such as the Zahiri (literalist), Mujassimite (anthropotheist) and Muhaddithin (traditionalist) schools for their over-emphasis on taqlid (imitation) in his Istihsan al‑Khaud:"

"A section of the people (i.e., the Zahirites and others) made capital out of their own ignorance; discussions and rational thinking about matters of faith became a heavy burden for them, and, therefore, they became inclined to blind faith and blind following (taqlid). They condemned those who tried to rationalize the principles of religion as `innovators.' They considered discussion about motion, rest, body, accident, colour, space, atom, the leaping of atoms, and Attributes of God, to be an innovation and a sin. They said that had such discussions been the right thing, the Prophet and his Companions would have definitely done so; they further pointed out that the Prophet, before his death, discussed and fully explained all those matters which were necessary from the religious point of view, leaving none of them to be discussed by his followers; and since he did not discuss the problems mentioned above, it was evident that to discuss them must be regarded as an innovation."

"Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari was noted for his teachings on atomism, among the earliest Islamic philosophies, and for al-Ash'ari this was the basis for propagating the view that God created every moment in time and every particle of matter."

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...rational thinking about matters of faith...

 

MMmhmmm....well...that ends that..lol

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Primal stated: source post

 

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Some women really don't want equality to begin with, and "as people" those women are despicable.

I will agree with you on that Spatial. Those are snivelers. They are not the vast majority. However, those screeching SJW sorts are the ones that make the rest look terrible. And, of course, the transgender wonderschmucks. 

 

How do you think a scenario of that nature should work? What would you personally prefer? 

 

The scenario of the woman offering to pay for the meal, and the man allowing it ?

I think it's fine. Hell, I'd argue how a woman that gives and secures a man's wealth is a better catch, and is less likely to take him for a ride and run off with half his belongings.

My preference is, just let nature take it's course. There are types of people we need to look out for but that post was a bias crock of shite as if women never do any of that. That is the error of feminism, and it's deluded to say it's about equality between the sexes when feminism NEVER acknowledges men's hardships, and if they did, they would expose how obnoxious they really are.

Another thing about that post, is how she mentions how the misogynist will prefer sexual positions so he won't have to look her in the eyes....Then you look at her picture, and she has chameleon eyes. Often do psychologists themselves suffer from psychological issues. The whole interest in psychology to begin with regularly comes from unfavorable personal experiences, and in this case the author is venting by labeling a fuck buddy she broke up with.

SJW are modern day Nazi's who are protesting for the establishment of laws that entail censorship, thought policing, and the emasculation of men. Take Hdriver for instance. He reads that post that makes misogyny out to be some kind of personality disorder, as if misogyny should be listed in the DSM,  and all of a sudden he's spreading the word with the two cents of how bad this type of male behavior is.

Same thing happened in Canada on a larger scale. When Rooshv came here last year, a woman who goes by the hash tag "Your Feminist Mother" labeled Roosh as a rapist, and had 40,000 or so signatures on a digital petition to have him removed from the country. Following that we had 3 mayors in 3 cities urging venues to cancel his speeches, and media covering the concept of the war against him, and protests from feminists and white knights who just accepted this at face value. The whole reason why they were labeling him as a rapist, was over some satire he wrote in an article titled "How to Stop Rape" and NO ONE knew this was the reason behind it.

I would rather if people in general used their heads, and I would prefer it if SJW wouldn't get away with harassment and public defamation and other bully tactics while leading their masses, who go by their word alone, astray.

They call themselves SJW, but they aren't about justice. The real SJW in my book, are the women who challenge SJW's. The women who guard and respect men of the west. Who know there is no such thing as a gender pay gap, cause if there were, men would be out of work.

 

 

 

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Thank you Spatial. 

Personally, I tend to disregard most of that crap as the bullshit it is. Doesn't matter whether it is from the male or female side of the equation, as both tend to be full of shit upon closer examination. 

So...equal work for equal pay is fair. Beyond that? It gets  stupid. I have seen some amazingly retarded bullshit of the likes that defy description, as I am sure you have as well. So...meh...seriously?  Fuck it....lol...batshit crazy can be found on both sides of the fence. And believe me, the SJW contingent that breeds in SC is some of the most hilarious. 

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A far better explanation of how the Ash'arites slowed Muslim intellectual development can be given by one of its main metaphysical tenets: All is of Allah's will. Hence why Muslims today still say "if Allah wills it." The consequences reverberate to this day.

"The greatest and most influential voice of the Ash’arites was the medieval theologian Abu Hamid al-Ghazali (also known as Algazel; died 1111). In his book The Incoherence of the Philosophers, al-Ghazali vigorously attacked philosophy and philosophers — both the Greek philosophers themselves and their followers in the Muslim world (such as al-Farabi and Avicenna). Al-Ghazali was worried that when people become favorably influenced by philosophical arguments, they will also come to trust the philosophers on matters of religion, thus making Muslims less pious. Reason, because it teaches us to discover, question, and innovate, was the enemy; al-Ghazali argued that in assuming necessity in nature, philosophy was incompatible with Islamic teaching, which recognizes that nature is entirely subject to God’s will: 'Nothing in nature,' he wrote, 'can act spontaneously and apart from God.' While al-Ghazali did defend logic, he did so only to the extent that it could be used to ask theological questions and wielded as a tool to undermine philosophy. Sunnis embraced al-Ghazali as the winner of the debate with the Hellenistic rationalists, and opposition to philosophy gradually ossified, even to the extent that independent inquiry became a tainted enterprise, sometimes to the point of criminality. It is an exaggeration to say, as Steven Weinberg claimed in the Times of London, that after al-Ghazali 'there was no more science worth mentioning in Islamic countries'; in some places, especially Central Asia, Arabic work in science continued for some time, and philosophy was still studied somewhat under Shi’ite rule. (In the Sunni world, philosophy turned into mysticism.) But the fact is, Arab contributions to science became increasingly sporadic as the anti-rationalism sank in."

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Both sides yes. In the midst of controversy do many MGTOW's become the very thing they despise without realizing it.

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Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Primal stated: source post

 

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Some women really don't want equality to begin with, and "as people" those women are despicable.

I will agree with you on that Spatial. Those are snivelers. They are not the vast majority. However, those screeching SJW sorts are the ones that make the rest look terrible. And, of course, the transgender wonderschmucks. 

 

How do you think a scenario of that nature should work? What would you personally prefer? 

 

The scenario of the woman offering to pay for the meal, and the man allowing it ?

I think it's fine. Hell, I'd argue how a woman that gives and secures a man's wealth is a better catch, and is less likely to take him for a ride and run off with half his belongings.

My preference is, just let nature take it's course. There are types of people we need to look out for but that post was a bias crock of shite as if women never do any of that. That is the error of feminism, and it's deluded to say it's about equality between the sexes when feminism NEVER acknowledges men's hardships, and if they did, they would expose how obnoxious they really are.

Another thing about that post, is how she mentions how the misogynist will prefer sexual positions so he won't have to look her in the eyes....Then you look at her picture, and she has chameleon eyes. Often do psychologists themselves suffer from psychological issues. The whole interest in psychology to begin with regularly comes from unfavorable personal experiences, and in this case the author is venting by labeling a fuck buddy she broke up with.

SJW are modern day Nazi's who are protesting for the establishment of laws that entail censorship, thought policing, and the emasculation of men. Take Hdriver for instance. He reads that post that makes misogyny out to be some kind of personality disorder, as if misogyny should be listed in the DSM,  and all of a sudden he's spreading the word with the two cents of how bad this type of male behavior is.

Same thing happened in Canada on a larger scale. When Rooshv came here last year, a woman who goes by the hash tag "Your Feminist Mother" labeled Roosh as a rapist, and had 40,000 or so signatures on a digital petition to have him removed from the country. Following that we had 3 mayors in 3 cities urging venues to cancel his speeches, and media covering the concept of the war against him, and protests from feminists and white knights who just accepted this at face value. The whole reason why they were labeling him as a rapist, was over some satire he wrote in an article titled "How to Stop Rape" and NO ONE knew this was the reason behind it.

I would rather if people in general used their heads, and I would prefer it if SJW wouldn't get away with harassment and public defamation and other bully tactics while leading their masses, who go by their word alone, astray.

They call themselves SJW, but they aren't about justice. The real SJW in my book, are the women who challenge SJW's. The women who guard and respect men of the west. Who know there is no such thing as a gender pay gap, cause if there were, men would be out of work.

I do not like the hypocritical or extreme feminist. Heck I saw a video where a girl was crushing walnuts while vouching for feminism. I have heard of women sending men gifts that end up electrocuting them in the name of feminism. I do see that men and women both have struggles and bringing them to light can help. I know men tend to get harsher punishments in school and probably even in court. I know men are not taken seriously in cases of being the victim of rape. I know people have a hard time believing when men are abused by their wives.

You know what I see? Both genders have it hard in different aspects. If we really want to help we will address all the problems. I do think feminism was important to let women vote, join the army if they want, be able to get jobs, divorce, etc. I think the fear men has for periods back in history is uncalled for since it was natural and not demonic. I think women who were murdered for witchcraft is absurd. I think men who killed women who did not bear them sons is absurd when it is the male chromosome that determines gender. It could have a great deal to do with the lack of education. It did have a purpose when women were seen as property and sold for cows. I should mention that not all civilizations made women objects. I know some civilizations would let the women choose their partner and was able to take back all the belongings that came with her in divorce.

I am willing to pay for a man on a date or even give him money. It does have to do with the fact I know I am considered blessed or rich in the world. I think I fail to see much value in money. I never even look at prices when I am shopping. I mean one time I went to a store and I saw a dress that was just a regular white summer dress and it was a thousand dollars after the forty percent off sale. I was loosing my shit when I checked the price because damn I could buy like maybe five phones with the price of the one dress. I had one dinner that was five hundred dollars. I will tell you it is only slightly better than a home cooked steak. I got a four hundred dollar hair straightener. I mean who needs a four hundred dollar hair straightener??? 

Well anyways I do not seek a man to provide wealth. I had wealth and to be honest it never even brought happiness. It does not matter because guess what a home cooked steak is basically just as good at the high up fancy expensive restaurants. It does not mater because guess what a cheap summer dress can look just as good as the thousand dollar summer dress. It does not matter because guess what a forty dollar hair straightener works just as well as a four hundred dollar hair straightener. It does not matter because guess what driving around in an auti or mercedez is not even that much better from a kia or volvo. I mean at most it comes with like more precise heating to specific temperatures and like a minute of auto drive. 

I have lived in a lot of luxury. It is not as great as everyone hypes it up to bed in society. I think the best thing to seek is trust, love and care. It is why I have a tendency to buy my friends gifts, fifty dollar sweaters they have been dreaming about, dolls they never thought they would get and make them cakes. It is why I buy everyone in my dorm a hundred dollars worth of candy and pizza on holidays. It is why the day I learned one of my room mates just found out she is gluten free I bought her a box of actually tasty gluten free cupcakes and gluten free cookies. I tried one just to make sure it tasted good enough. It is why I bought her more cupcakes on her birthday in a different flavor. It is why once a month I bought and made the floor cookies. It is why I bought everyone cards and fake candles on valentines day and wrote my most memorable moment on a tiny paper then wrapped it in a rope tie. It is why I gave my friend the free coffee I won at tim hortens during roll up the rim. It is funny because I do all this then debate if should buy myself ten dollar earphones because I know I do not need earphones.

I like the quote "You count your money and I will count my friends. We will see who is richer in the end". I see this to mean friends have more value than money could ever buy. In the end money will not have your back friends will. I would trade all the money I have or will ever earn for relationships. I know the only problem is that real friends are more valuable then all the gold on this planet. The only exchange that can be made for a friend is to be a friend and be the person you would want to be your friends. 

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Primal stated: source post

Thank you Spatial. 

Personally, I tend to disregard most of that crap as the bullshit it is. Doesn't matter whether it is from the male or female side of the equation, as both tend to be full of shit upon closer examination. 

So...equal work for equal pay is fair. Beyond that? It gets  stupid. I have seen some amazingly retarded bullshit of the likes that defy description, as I am sure you have as well. So...meh...seriously?  Fuck it....lol...batshit crazy can be found on both sides of the fence. And believe me, the SJW contingent that breeds in SC is some of the most hilarious. 

I agree both sides have their up sides and down sides. Everyone thinks the grass is greener on the other side.

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