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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

I read something recently that didn't explain why exactly, but said intelligent people are more likely to fall for brainwashing/conditioning such as that of cults.

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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

Inquirer stated: source post

 There are also a lot of examples of 'normal' people getting indoctrinated and swayed by powerful ideologies; it's not just the 'sick' ones that are vulnerable to their narrative.

Why do you think those "normal" people get indoctrinated and other (majority) normal people don't? What would you say they have in common.

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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

i'm not saying this is how all muslims respond to their religion but the religion itself does promote these things

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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

I've heard he was struggling with repressed homosexual desires. Apparently he had a grindr account, which is a gay dating app. His father is insane, he believes gays should be punished. He also supports the Taliban on videos he posts to YouTube. This is the dudes father, so that's the type of stuff he was exposed to growing up. It's kinda a two birds one stone scenario, a bunch of degenerate faggots and a mudslime got rekt. A video taken 5 mins before the shooting shows some fag sucking his own dick and cumming inside his own mouth. I'm glad that place got fucked up. Not a homophobe, I just don't like degenerates. 

youre either pro-gay rights or pro-Islam, you can't be both. The left is trying to dismiss the fact the dude was a Muslim who worked for ISIS. Gay groups are now supporting trump. This is badass, it's great. If he turns out to be a closeted gay who can't come to terms with his homosexuality, this is even better. They'll have to acknowledge the fact it had nothing to do with homophobia or gun control, but Islam. The fact he was the son of afghanis, and afghanis are 99% in favour of sharia. 

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Edvard stated: source post

Why do you think those "normal" people get indoctrinated and other (majority) normal people don't? What would you say they have in common.

My point is that people in general are not automatically immune to powerful ideologies and group pressure, just look at Nazism. It's also not black and white. A lot of muslims sympathize in one way or another with the goals of various terrorist organizations even if they might not condone the violence, which in turn makes it easier for the truly sick ones to weaponize those beliefs and justify their actions.

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I read something recently that didn't explain why exactly, but said intelligent people are more likely to fall for brainwashing/conditioning such as that of cults.

Have a link? 

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REB stated: source post

They'll have to acknowledge the fact it had nothing to do with homophobia or gun control, but Islam.

Why's that? 

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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

 

Inquirer stated: source post

 

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I read something recently that didn't explain why exactly, but said intelligent people are more likely to fall for brainwashing/conditioning such as that of cults.

Have a link? 

Yeah, I'd like to see this too. I didn't figure that there'd be a connection between high intelligence and zeal for a cause that's larger than themselves with gullibility that follows from impression being that much stronger of a force (if not from a lack of prior understanding). Intelligence is intelligence, but perception, understanding, that's wisdom. Someone can be a complete dunce yet be a highly learned person as well without it being the least bit contradictory, especially if they lead a sheltered life. It's more about having a highly moldable point of reference that isn't able to look back on itself to see how they've changed, a mind that is blind to who it once was, stuck entirely in the moment as if their life was always the moment so that they lack that frame of self-doubting comparison. 

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Edvard stated: source post

 

TPG stated: source post

the ones who dont have very religious parents yeah but those are a minority and dont really dictate what the majority of the muslims believe about homosexuality.

You think the majority of muslims believe homosexuals must be stoned? How many muslims have you got to know tpg? 

What about Jews? You better watch out for those too.

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)[edit]
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

    Intercourse between a man and his mother.
    Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
    Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
    Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
    Intercourse between two men.
    Bestiality.
    Cursing the name of God in God's name.
    Idol Worship.
    Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
    Necromantic Sorcery.
    Pythonic Sorcery.
    Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
    Instigating a community to worship idols.
    Witchcraft.
    Violating the Sabbath.
    Cursing one's own parent.
    A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)[edit]

    The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
    Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
    Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
    Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
    Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
    Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
    Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
    Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
    Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
    Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)[edit]

    Unlawful premeditated murder.
    Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)[edit]

    Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
    Wounding one's own parent.
    Kidnapping another member of Israel.
    Prophesizing falsely.
    Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
    A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

 

In all fairness, it's been a really long time since the Jews have implemented stoning, burning, strangulation, etc. as punishments for anything. And if there was death still imposed for violation of the Sabbath, there would hardly be a Jew alive. 

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Didn't the shooter in Orlando claim some sort of allegiance to the Islamic State?

Even though ISIS is steeped in the religion, it's not solely a religious movement. It's a nationalist movement. A person doesn't need to be a religious fanatic to be drawn to its causes. Many people will adopt or at least actively tolerate and condone some aspects of a movement to which they don't personally subscribe if the majority of the cause resonates with them. I think a lot of blame lies on extreme points of Islam in general, but from what I read about this attack the religion itself only mattered in the choice of location. The location could be an easy target for any mass attack but is extra appealing due to its contents.

I don't see where the shooter's misogyny matters. I assume there were female victims, but this wasn't an attack on women. This only shows the guy hated a lot of people and had a lot of issues.

I bet he was probably a little gay.

Gay and repressed/ashamed or straight and totally unable to score pussy. Not like that hasn't happened before where some guy angry about girls not wanting to fuck him has gone on a shooting spree.

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Orlando gunman had misogynistic rants

hdiver stated: source post

hatred for women... we are such moldable creatures as young ones.

how can someone hate the sweeter kinder sex that gives life? mommy issues?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist

 

From the time I read the title "12 ways to spot a misogynist" I figured a man hating women probably wrote it. Watch the sense of entitlement....

" On a date, he will treat a woman the opposite of how she prefers. If she is an old-style lady who prefers a "gentleman" who holds the door for her, orders for both and pays for the meal, he will treat her like one of his male buddies, order for himself, and let her pay for the whole meal if she offers"

He would really treat her like one of his buddies and let her pay for the whole meal if she offers..... How dare he over step his boundaries when the princess is clearly shit testing him !

That whole post is hypocrisy in it's full glory. Some women really don't want equality to begin with, and "as people" those women are despicable.

 

 

 

 

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