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By embracing it, he is challenging it. Obviously this is all open to interpretation so I'm not speaking of his own motivation, but if a man is packaging himself as a commodified woman, what does that say about the concept of "commodified woman"? That it's less about 'woman' and more about 'commodified'. 

I agree that it was meant to be provocative. I have no problems with people being provocative. As a topic of discussion on what was provoked, however, that's dependent on the viewer's interpretation, which I'm happy to discuss.

I don't think this is a force of social.change that will fight injustice. But I'm still enjoying the concept of a female pop star who was born male. I understand your comparisons to sideshow circuses, believe me, but it still opens a dialogue. Even if I can't save the sex trafficked women of the world, I can still talk about the representation of the feminine ideal in pop culture.  I don't think the value of that discussion should be nullified just because it's irrelevant to something entirely different.

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they are all justifiable or non justifiable, depending on the motivation.

all actions are like this.

however i consider those that you pointed out generally ok, because i do not think the motivation is generally a weakness. there are most definitely cases where it is a weakness, but there are even less cases where people glorify these weaknesses. they actually try to get over them.

but even in cases where they are non justifiable and glorified, its still only a minor part of your identity. its not your entire identity. there are people who change their hair color, facial features, skin color, physical body and i dont like them too. but not all of them.

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"So... being different is bad because other people won't understand it? "

no, what i meant is, that people do not understand how to be different in a beneficial way.

 

"What about someone who gives in to the urges to conform? To be like everyone else? "

what about him? he is also a moron. you need to find balance. to be able to do as you like, while not being too intrusive, or get the power to be able to do as you like regardless of being intrusive. like the bearded girl did. she is being intrusive, but no one can stop her. however his motivations are not to do as he likes, they are to glorify his own weakness.

 

"My thoughts on it? Who cares. To care one way or the other is an investment that I don't see as necessary. I care about the freedom to do as you please, not what others do with it (as long as it doesn't invade my own freedoms anyway)."

i don't really care, i will just express my disgust and get on with it when i am not discussing this. now however i am trying to explain my disgust to myself while talking with someone.

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Disgust means you care enough to be disgusted by it. Not caring at all would mean being unphased by it.

What are you meaning when you say "weakness"?

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"Disgust means you care enough to be disgusted by it. Not caring at all would mean being unphased by it. 

yes i get disgusted, but i do not indulge into care as to why normally. and i can get over it, as long as he doesn't touch me", which clearly wont happen

"What are you meaning when you say "weakness"?"

that the beard woman gave into his urges and has now made it something to be proud of.

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Weakness is when you are hindered by something about yourself. If this person is being empowered and endorsed for those traits, is it even a weakness anymore for that person?

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of course it is. he let his urges win. now they control him. the empowerment he feels is because of the glorification of weakness and now many people will try to be proud of their problems. his problems are still there, he has just created an illusion and/or blocked off all the negative things from the surrounding world. how he has done i am not sure, because i have not read his story and i wont.

 

i could be wrong, but i do not care enough to read about him, just to get rid of a tiny annoyance i can ignore without much effort. maybe he got over his urges and decided to be a woman after that. however the glorification is still retarded. now other weak(weak in different areas, not just appearance, anything) people will do it, without understanding anything most likely, because its easier then dealing with their problems.

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What were those urges? Just the urge to be something else or wear different clothes?

Edit: Instead of that question, what makes something to you a choice and not an urge?

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I don't mean any harm when saying this but you sound sexually repressed to me, babe. Were you brought up by a strict alpha male father who would punish you for falling out of line from his vision of what a perfect alpha son should act like? Don't worry hun, I've been there too. Pm me if you need to talk. Ok? Xxx

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Love you :D xxx

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