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Imma be brutally honest, here.

Your shit looks rude, but this is in line with what I've been asking for. 

Xena said:
You look like Howard Stern,
What, because of the hair? I don't see it myself but lets take a look: 

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I dunno man, imagine this mug with some makeup and some Estrogen. Look at those eyes he tries to hide behind those sunglasses, and consider his age.
I've heard you're a baritone
The voice is capable of quite a large range of tones with training, and during my singing days I could cover almost all of a piano's notes during warm ups. Beyond that I've been on and off working on it with some tutorials for inflection and adjusting to a different mid-range, but there's still more work to be done.

I don't think my voice is beyond hope, but it's been one of the bigger hurdles.
you're almost 6' tall (unless you were lying to me.) That's ok for a guy. But for a woman?
How short are you Xe? Posted Image

Most of the people I've dated have been around my height, and if we're looking at my genetics I'm actually the height of the women in my family (probably thanks to sleep deprivation).

Just no. There is nothing more tragic than an ugly trannie. And you will be one.
By comparison, how hot of a man am I in your eyes, and how much more attractive are normal, non-movie women?

Estrogen when it comes to reshaping the face in non-ogre faces is actually kinda miraculous. It's not perfect, but the majority of cisgendered people "don't pass" if you're looking purely at how ugly versus "fitting" they are.
Just like I can't be 6' tall without extreme pain, and I'll never look 17,
The things I want to actually do are somewhat possible, hon. Posted Image

You don't need to drag me down to your midlife crisis regrets and height issues when my goal is much easier.
even with $50 000 worth of plastic surgery, you will never be feminine. Period. Why bother trying?

So I'll never be feminine because of having to train my voice and work a little harder? I understand saying I'd never be "a real woman", but being "feminine" doesn't technically even require surgery or estrogen if we get into semantics.

I'd be starting with Estrogen solely as some sort of Satan-inspired Dickgirl, and if being a Futa doesn't grow on me I know that I have surgery options. Estrogen shapeshifting has an age component to it, but the surgery being sooner's more of a matter of personal desire.

The price for male bottom surgery is around half of what you've posted here (30k) and that doesn't have as strict of a time component on it. If I end up in my lifetime only doing Estrogen without the surgery, I still see that as a vast improvement from where I'm at now.

To get more graphic, while natural random erections will go away (thank goodness holy shit they're awful), some level of action on myself is in the plan as maintenance of a sort to prevent atrophy down there, whether that's viagra use with porn or a partner or penis pumping (which is still less effort than dialating myself). While it shrinking does sound convenient for me, the skin down there is what's used for the surgery and atrophy erections should they happen are apparently no fun. I also could use a libido reduction as a nice secondary effect, as this shit some days just doesn't fucking shut up, and frankly... anal feels better anyway from being able to actually have multiple orgasms that build on each other instead of cumming from my dick and feeling unfinished (unless there's tons of edging).

You're also schizophrenic. Beyond throwing doubt all over your entire wish list bc of the delusion factor, have you thought of how female hormones will affect your psychological functioning?

Yes, for better and for worse. I had a surprisingly chill puberty beyond some weird crushes, and if it isn't like that the second time around as I'd suspect from pushing it harder in the other direction, then I mostly expect more vibrant emotions.

As weird as it might seem, that's something I'm somewhat looking forward to. As is a lot of feelings can get trapped in there if I don't do things to force them out, and I can't even remember the last time I got to have a good cry. So far, things that have raised my emotionality and expressiveness have been psychologically healthier for me than otherwise. In many respects I think this might actually help my problem, and if not I'd argue it's not a worse problem, but instead a different one.

My setting as it is now also has a support network, some involving others who did this before me or were alongside watching "the change", and is somewhat cradled by my current setting.

As for the delusions, the ones I worry more over are more tangential and build up from stress and keeping things to myself. The more consistent, solidified ones with some semblance of environmental backing and rigor meanwhile are significantly more passive if they aren't presenting a current hangup. It's when there's suddenly something else going on up there that it's like "Wait woah no that's not who I've been all this time".

If you're worried that it's going to make me kill myself like another trans statistic, the risk is about equal regardless of if I change or not.

True story: I can't take the pill.

Two of my exes would get nausea from it, one of them even consistently vomiting it back up, and all of them got notably mood swingy by comprison towards the start of it, until their bodies adjusted for those who stayed on it. Then again, the ones who'd get sick from it also had surprisingly angry periods, so their body was already not having fun with egg making. It's not for everyone, which really sucks for those who'd rather have it.

For those who struggle with the pill however there's other options even beyond condoms and diaphragms.

I'm celibate bc I don't trust condoms, either.

Have you always not trusted condoms..?

It hasn't gone wrong for me yet and I've had more than my fair share of sex, otherwise for those times going bareback with people I trusted the pullout method's been super easy to perform if you've trained your body for it through edging and kegal drills, and for whatever reason I don't seem to be a precummer. For real though, for a man to not pull out they either have to be fucking selfish or in a compromised position.

If anything, female hormones drive those guys even more batshit bc progesterone, etc is just wrong in a male body. And forget about mental illness. I knew a trannie once who behaved as if she was bipolar (even tho she didn't share her dx, she was a whackjob of a hot mess lol.)

You're sure it's because of the estrogen solely that she behaved bipolarly?

The trannies I've seen who went that way without pre-existing mood swing issues just got a little testier, which is such a non-issue. As for my own pre-existing dx, I've spent a lot of time practicing self control over an already deteriorative issue and have seen that much of it can be affected through conditioning myself and being in the right environment, so I mostly imagine that meaning me adding a bit more weight onto it.

The crazy bitch went down for murder once when her hormones were messing up her functioning...

Jeez Louise, you could end up sticking prison food up your gash to keep your hole open...

I'm already in the system as Schizoaffective (with unipolar mania displaying paranoia symptoms) with enough of my past on record and some who've witnessed my episodes instead of my usual running and hiding routine (including embarassing myself in front of some of the clinicians themselves...), so I am more than certain I'd be locked in asylum instead of prison where I'd be medicated into a near coma-like stupor.

I have a dystopian safety net to look forward to instead of stab wounds and gang tags.

I honestly dgaf what you do with your penis lol. But you asked why not.

I appreciate you being honest with me when it could have otherwise just been a chance for you to dig at me.

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Xena said: 

Actually, after reading his posts about how it's "better to try and fail" or w/e, Imma take back what I said about height and looking 17.

This is more like when I used to jump off the side of my bed and flap my arms when I was 6.

I wanted to be a flying dragon. I shit thee not lol

Two things wrong with that: 

1) Dragons are both not human (not even humanoid) and don't exist in our reality. Even a human trying to look like a cat arguably has more bearing than a dragon. Are you saying that the female form is just as elusive as dragons? I think I could pass as a woman long before you could pull off being a dragon kin, and the general spread of trannies versus dragonkin works as a half-decent sample for why. 

2) We haven't found a way to graft or grow flight parts onto a person yet, let alone figuring out fire breathing or any of that nonsense, and the sheer means of making it work beyond a purely decorative attachment is beyond science right now. If we were to accomplish this level of human shapeshifting we'd need to be more closely considering genetic therapy or how to wire grafts to function beyond the pre-existing functions of the brain. 

People always compare changing genders to changing species as some sort of counter-argument, which I frankly don't see the connection for beyond tenuous ones. The sort of "disguise" I'm aiming for people can be tricked into believing even without surgery, unlike a snake, cat, or dragonkin. There's no means of trying to "blend" when the aim is towards an interspecies hybrid look, and those lot seem more like body mod fetishists with a specific flavor in mind than a tranny. 

 

Tbh, I think TC just needs a gf with a firm hand

Past GFs seem to agree with my idea of transitioning, save for one who warmed up to it from it spooking her conceptually as opposed to behaviorally or aesthetically. 

and a better set of hobbies.

Puyo Puyo is a perfectly fine hobby tyvm. 


Thinks he wants to be woman... lol now I've heard everything...

I thought you knew this already. 

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Xena kind of makes a good point, TC. You should think carefully about what she said. She pretty much verbalized exactly what was on people's minds. The only difference is that she has the balls to say it, whereas I and others are afraid of disagreeing with people.

In the end, it's your choice, but... I really do genuinely agree with almost everything Xena said.

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Xena kind of makes a good point, TC. You should think carefully about what she said. She pretty much verbalized exactly what was on people's minds. The only difference is that she has the balls to say it, whereas I and others are afraid of disagreeing with people.

In the end, it's your choice, but... I really do genuinely agree with almost everything Xena said.

I see where she's coming from, and she's one of the only ones to actually bring up the realistic price factor that, while I knew about it already, others likely hadn't considered as a counterargument based on their not bringing it up. 

When you filter out her own insecurities and snark you can see that she really put effort into typing all of that out for me. 

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Wth? lol no insecurities, hun.  Hint: that's what you say to a trannie who can't pass.

I'm over 45. Stating that I'll never look 17 again is a fact, and not smthg I actually want. 17 was a shitshow for me, anyway.

 

Now 27... that was perfection. I loved that age. 

 

 

Why do the ppl here always misread my bluntness as some kind of attack rooted in hurt fee fees or some shit? I just don't have time to candy coat everything. Writing in a style other than my usual way of speaking is too much like work. I prefer not to do it unless I'm getting paid.

lol I just remembered how much less abrasive I am when ppl have the benefit of muh sweet voice to soften everything down.

w/e.

 

And yes I did type all of that for your benefit, dumbass  :P

I've seen a few people transition, and then go back again bc they thought it was the biggest mistake of their lives.

Some true facts: Biologically gay people make up 5% of humans, whereas true transgendered people number about one in 10 000.

But a recent study suggests that the media has most of us believing that about a quarter of all people are gay, and around 5% are trans.

 

All too often men transition bc they're stupidly competitive, and believe incorrectly that women have it easier than they do, and that having guys lined up around the block wanting  sex from them all the time is a good thing.

I mean Bruce fucking Jenner lol

That was a hot looking man... and he ruined his everything. For what? To date a 21 year old girl who will probably demand all kinds of money when they split up, just like the rest of the women he divorced. For a farce of a magazine cover where some tiny committee called him "woman of the year" so he can be the spokesperson for a bunch of greedy Hollywood plastic surgeons.

Just UGH.

 

Anyway... just think on your reasons for wanting this. $30 000 is a lot of money to spend on smthg that could easily turn out to be horrible for you.

If you want to waste that much money, you're more than welcome to throw it my way. I'll put it to good use  ;D

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And past GFs? Like plural? Like not with you anymore?

As in... they told you what you wanted to hear so they could run away?

 

k  xD

 

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Hold the phone...

You wrote:

(fuck this copy paste button blah)

 

"random erections..." "...anal feels better..."

lol so why is it such a problem for you to just get buttfucked? 

And random erections are a problem for you? Didn't anybody ever show you how to pinch your taint to get rid of those? You can do it by crossing your legs and wiggling your buttcheeks around. Or the fun way. Just get yourself off.

 

There's also a cruel rape prevention way to do it, if your unusual wiring makes my boner stopping technique less effective for you.

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Xena said: 

Wth? lol no insecurities, hun.  Hint: that's what you say to a trannie who can't pass.

Do you really expect me to believe you have no insecurities when you're so prone to narrating them? 

Come on. I'm not objecting with the discussion of insecurity, but call it like it is. 

I'm over 45. Stating that I'll never look 17 again is a fact, and not smthg I actually want. 17 was a shitshow for me, anyway.

Now 27... that was perfection. I loved that age. 

Why do the ppl here always misread my bluntness as some kind of attack rooted in hurt fee fees or some shit?

I didn't say that, but you do have snark and insecurity in your narratives. There's more ways of showcasing this sort of thing than just lashing out. 

Any feeling of you "attacking" I just chalk up to our history, and frankly I enjoy our banters. 

I just don't have time to candy coat everything. Writing in a style other than my usual way of speaking is too much like work. I prefer not to do it unless I'm getting paid.

I just went on about how I like that about you. 

lol I just remembered how much less abrasive I am when ppl have the benefit of muh sweet voice to soften everything down.

Tone really does soften things, I'm of the same school of thought, but from some of your stories it leaves me wondering...

And yes I did type all of that for your benefit, dumbass  :P

I know, and I appreciate it. You came out of lurking specifically for me, which is really nice of you. 

I've seen a few people transition, and then go back again bc they thought it was the biggest mistake of their lives.

Yeah I've seen it too, and I've seen people stick with it and be happy (both passing and... not... passing...), there's the suicide statistics and a bunch of other shit that the outcomes have shown as possibilities. 

It's almost as varied as seeing what people would do over almost any life changing decision. 

Some true facts: Biologically gay people make up 5% of humans, whereas true transgendered people number about one in 10 000. 

What other gay is there in your viewpoint? 

But a recent study suggests that the media has most of us believing that about a quarter of all people are gay, and around 5% are trans.

I mean I know I'm bisexual with an odd T vs E count if that's any indicator for you. 

All too often men transition bc they're stupidly competitive, and believe incorrectly that women have it easier than they do, and that having guys lined up around the block wanting  sex from them all the time is a good thing.

Do you think that's what's going on with me though? 

I mean Bruce fucking Jenner lol

If you think I have his physique then your eyes need checking. 

That was a hot looking man... and he ruined his everything. For what? To date a 21 year old girl who will probably demand all kinds of money when they split up, just like the rest of the women he divorced.

His daughters support him anyway, I guess. 

He however did his transition at the age of 66 and was a mess of testosterone when he jumped into it, and him being the poster child for "trans people" is not really accurate, but rather niche. 

For a farce of a magazine cover where some tiny committee called him "woman of the year" so he can be the spokesperson for a bunch of greedy Hollywood plastic surgeons.

He if anything set trannies back a bit, unless a part of the "looks aren't everything" justifiers. 

He meant well anyway. 

Anyway... just think on your reasons for wanting this. $30 000 is a lot of money to spend on smthg that could easily turn out to be horrible for you.

I know, but I'm still left with seeing how I am now as God's botch job in a way. 

What makes the form I'm in now any better? 

If you want to waste that much money, you're more than welcome to throw it my way. I'll put it to good use  ;D

What would you spend it on? 

Xena said: 

And past GFs? Like plural? Like not with you anymore?

I don't know about you, but I'm not running a harem over here. 

I'm not poly, I date one at a time. 

As in... they told you what you wanted to hear so they could run away?

k  xD

Only bi chicks are ever really into me, save for a former self-identifying lesbian who's now mid-transition into manhood. If they play completely straight then I'm SOL from not fitting their ideas of conventional standards, plus probably from some biological component like scent or something. 

Save for one where the relationship was more about power, there's been a lot of "best of both worlds" rants with them otherwise not seeming too shocked at my trans-isms, even for the one who found it spooky. Part of why it spooked her out was over how it made sense despite it not being what she wanted. 

Xena said: 

Hold the phone...

You wrote:

"random erections..."

Yes, these are normal for men, and if it isn't happening for them then it atrophies. It's part of the function of a healthy penis and basically serves to preserve it similarly to flexing your limbs instead of becoming one with the couch. 

This is especially true when they sleep. 

"...anal feels better..."

With lube anyway yeah. 

lol so why is it such a problem for you to just get buttfucked? 

It's not, I like anal a lot, but it'd be nice to have the front equipment too. 

It's not really the same thing, as I'm sure you understand. 

And random erections are a problem for you? Didn't anybody ever show you how to pinch your taint to get rid of those? You can do it by crossing your legs and wiggling your buttcheeks around. Or the fun way. Just get yourself off. 

...the hell of handling my numerous constant erections when I was growing up is a narrative hell of it's own design. 

There's also a cruel rape prevention way to do it, if your unusual wiring makes my boner stopping technique less effective for you.

What the chastity cage? 

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Im not so sure if I- and believe me when I say this, I am a tremendous fan of the G-L-B-T community- but I would maybe not do that. I've seen some do this and have tremendous regret and they were an all out mess, now that being said- I love the gays.

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Xena said: 

Wth? lol no insecurities, hun.  Hint: that's what you say to a trannie who can't pass.

Do you really expect me to believe you have no insecurities when you're so prone to narrating them? 

Come on. I'm not objecting with the discussion of insecurity, but call it like it is. 

I'm over 45. Stating that I'll never look 17 again is a fact, and not smthg I actually want. 17 was a shitshow for me, anyway.

I told my sister about this chat when we were out picking up my new sewing machine just now. She put it so eloquently lol

"I'm well past insecure. Existential horror doesn't leave much room for petty insecurities."

In our family, not looking young and cute is the least of our worries. Old age (for some of us) is full of tumors and necrotic flesh and horrific mobility issues that require teams of nurses to help with such mundane activities as bathing and ass wiping. For my mother, that shit started at age 37.

What comes after existential horror turns numb and scabs over and becomes a way of life? 

Callous resignation, I guess. The constant dread and moments of panic harden into a nice thick shell of "fuck you and gtfo of my way. My kids and I come first."

I mean, if this is all there is, and this is the best I'm ever going to be, then why should I get upset about it? There are far worse things in the world than what I have and who I am right now. I've made my peace with it.

Vanity and little cliques and their silly breeding concerns are adolescent middleschool games. I got over that nonsense before I turned 30.

 

 

 

Some true facts: Biologically gay people make up 5% of humans, whereas true transgendered people number about one in 10 000. 

What other gay is there in your viewpoint? 

Lots of people experiment with that, and are confused for years before they figure out their true sexual preferences. Those are genetic, but we're blasted with so many images and msgs from the media that it's no surprise that it takes some ppl so long to listen to what their own bodies and their own hearts tell them about what really pleases them.

 

"All too often men transition bc they're stupidly competitive, and believe incorrectly that women have it easier than they do, and that having guys lined up around the block wanting  sex from them all the time is a good thing.

Do you think that's what's going on with me though? "

No. I think you're mentally ill and fixated on a fantasy/ delusion. That's why I brought up the dragon play anecdote.

 

 

 

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