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Just three old men arguing about their youth. 

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 This will be for you Nate, since you took took to liberty to answer for me.

Jada said: 
I really think that list of intellectual achievements from you would help speed things along, instead of arguing over how much you don't want to, how much my intellectual achievements dont matter, and how much you can just rely on your gut feeling.

For the sake of the topic, I've decided to answer for him.

I decided to comb through the 'Who is smarter' topic, and found he actually did list his idea of achievements: 

If I were to boast, I'd go on about my Bitcoin technical analysis graph that I drew in Alice's trading group, and the thing lasted for 2 years into the future hitting my spaced out markers from a 3k price point and up. This isn't something I use in arguments, but I'd argue my graph is better than yours. To others I performed a miracle, but to me this is a late study combined with something I learned in grade 6.
 
That was in response to Legga talking about his work with sleep graph analysis which I believe data is collected by sticking wires on someone and monitoring their behavior while they're asleep with a computer. This is how they diagnose sleep apnea. I then brought up my BTC graph, based on what I've learned from TA and pattern recognition from past data, and I created a chart that called BTC's future price action fairly accurately for 2 years which is how far it went. I used to screenshot and post it's progress often in Alice's group. 
 
 
He then continues to brag and puff out his chest over how "You never heard of my wealth from me, but from other members who were in that group", which is just silly when you consider how often he's bragged about it and how I only really know about it from him, all the while refusing to prove it to you (short of rambling about eCoin for the rest of the first page) while demanding you prove yourself by doxxing yourself. 
That's correct.
 
In 2017 I got into cryptocurrencies and shared what I was doing with the community when I built a $16,000 supercomputer prior to knowing how to make it work. I talked about many projects which would be successful and understood why. At that point in time the only other member that was interested in cryptocurrencies was Jim, and it wasn't the same projects I was into. He liked Bcash with the hope it would flip Bitcoin for the top spot, and was Anti Ethereum. Made fun of Tron and other projects I saw great potential in. 
 
By 2018 the market suffered a crash where I would shut down the machines as the operating cost combined with difficulty made it unprofitable. While I ROI'd and some, I did not disclose how much I made.
 
By 2019 and 2020 I started trading and at that point in time I took it off of SC and would only share what I'm doing in Alice's trading group. I was also gone for the entire year without even lurking here. The reason for this is simple. Focus, and I never wanted to enrich Jim as I thought of him as a piece of shit. It was in that trading group is where I made more wealth than I ever have in my life and showcased it, as it's what the server was for, I shared some of my trades in real time as I was doing them. Best ones being Shiba Inu, Chainlink, Dogecoin, Jejudoge, Million Token, some projects I can't think of, all of which have been sold.
 
What I did do is advise the community to get into this, we talked about it, no one was really interested except a few who actually got into it and by 2020 thanked me. 
 
At the time I never seen anything wrong with enriching others, but I learned something and now I do know the pitfalls. 
 


I've generally noticed he brags about his victories, but never brings up his losses in the market. If he loses as often as he wins, that'd account for him not gaining as much growth as you'd find impressive. 
As mentioned I only trade in 4 year cycles. I'll buy during a crashed market, and sell before December of that halvening. 2 or maybe even 1 year after my purchases. 
 
I've had losses. I got rug pulled by a project called Jindoge and lost $4,000. Dogechain is it's own chain, but had tokens on the Ethereum blockchain. When I linked a metamask wallet to Dogechains site, they were able to steal all of the Dogechain tokens I bought from them. The site also claims to only link to their Dogechain, but clearly Ethereum can too. From that day I learned to read fineprint when adding permissions. I then went to Etherscan to revoke their permission, and was able to see I wasn't connected to a smart contract, but to someone using the chain manually. I did track my $1000 worth of Dogechain and it moved twice, ending up in a wallet containing 2 million dollars worth of this token.
 
Another loss happened when I got into a project the day of launch on the ADAPAD staking platform. The idea is to buy before launch and sell it on launch, then buy it back. Another member followed me into this venture, though I did warn him it's high risk, we're to buy, hold on for a few minutes and sell. Aside from that, staking on ADAPAD turned out very profitable, especially with the Q-Mall token, which paid out like a dividend. I literally lived off of these for several months. 
 
The member and I bought and down it went. He started tripping balls saying how he can't afford losing the $800 dollars he invested, so I tossed him $800 in USD and told him not to follow everything I do. I did tell him not to invest more than he can afford to lose as I do with everyone when buying high risk tokens. Always invest little amounts into high risk assets. 
 
High risk projects are what I would invest smaller amounts. I wouldn't drop 20 grand on something that just came out without knowing the specs of the token, and what the project is supposed to do. If liquidity is locked as some projects are at launch, that could encourage me to invest a little more.  For example Shiro Neko, which I did make a thread for it here. On launch I dropped $600 but wasn't able to get it right away, as the network was overflowed, I kept trying and trying until I was able to get some at a higher price. People who were able to get in early walked away with as much as 27 million with a smaller capital than me. My next move was to sell it cause all those new millionaires would surely sell and crash the market, and they did. Happens with every parabolic spike which is how this project started. After the price bottomed out, I just bought a stash and just forget about it.  While this paragraph isn't about loss, it outlines how I manage risk and why I'm able to win more than lose. 
 
Being insightful with the intent to improve the lives of others isn't boasting. 
 
 

 

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By page two he's bragging about: 

Well there are hundreds of thousands of electric wheelchairs out there with components of my design. I also posess schematics for machinery that I made. Engineers love me. I kinda am one at heart.

If you dig far enough back he used to brag about self-transformation and beliefs in himself as some sort of mentor-figure too, Life Guru shit with a Phoenix as his Spirit Animal, even odd ideas on Truesight like some sort of Christian Shaman, but I'm not sure if he'd call those accomplishments over how subjective those are.

I never idolized the concept of the mythical bird, the Phoenix and how it symbolizes restoration. As an atheist you'd certainly see self healing as some kind of gimmick and pass it off as subjective. You simply don't believe people can cure themselves by thinking differently, while your proclaimed study in psychology was meant to cure mental illness, you don't do it and never have. I don't think you'd make a good cognitive therapist if I had to be honest, and it probably makes you cringe how I was able to recover from heartbreak and MDD without a therapist and drugs.   

 

 It's this and his ability to make 3D models, which we've seen sprawl across numerous topics. I'm thinking, based on his track record, if there was more to bring up that we'd have heard about it already. 

I can probably count all the times I shared some of my CG on 1 hand. I can do that all day if I wish, but nothing really good comes out of it. As you can see, today I'm accused of boasting simply for posting some personal CG I made. 

I posted this once.

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Rendered with Mental Ray, slow roasted on a laptop with an i5 processor. Very tedious to model, despite its size modeling that popular Bitcoin look is like modeling an entire stage, as moving between that circuitry at a running pace would take very long. The yellow Paper is Alice's writing, she made an equation using Phi for me. The white paper is some calligraphy crave made for me, so I turned what they did into textures and applied it to polygon planes without stretching or deforming the original imagery. 

I got the thumbs up. You know Nate, this is a visual art, and a visual artist is supposed to make things for people to enjoy. I'm showing you the same shit yet again, and there's a reason for that, and as it was before, it wasn't about boasting.

This one here that I showed last time, wasn't rendered in Mental Ray, but with the Arnold Render Engine.

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The thing that amazes me, is how the new rendering engine was able to do this image in minutes using an i7 processor, and it would be done in seconds with the GTX Titan X.

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I put out the grainy renders so it can still look CG. The sub surface scattering light bleeding into an object is a fancy illusion.

What I NEVER did, was suggest being able to model rig texture animate and render makes me better than anyone. But I'll bring it back here since you want to use it against me in some way to make a point. 

While I'm at it. My Ai output. *Chefs kiss* I don't bring it here for reasons I just mentioned. If my art upsets you, my generative Ai will.  


Spatial has shown comfort and joy in the art of bragging, it made the idea of him not wanting to suspicious. Go figure when I looked through the topic again he actually had been bragging while explaining on repeat why he doesn't want to, before complaining about how you'd wipe the floor with him when it comes to Science while simultaneously calling you dumb and dim via comparing your achievements to his god daughter's skill of repetitious familiarity with Dora the Explorer. 

Absolutely. If Legga is as he claims, there's no point in challenging him on his grounds. I also brought up the possibility of him cheating as he is anonymous and it's easy to fake intelligence with Ai.

As for the Dora the Explorer, that was simply the theme of a memory card game, and she memorized all of the images on all the boards and was able to pull a match with every single image without a single error. This is why I laugh when someone says, "step into my ring and we'll see how good you are" cause it's the same game of memory being used to win. It's all memorizing the answers to every question on the board on anyone's turf.  

 


With it obvious that he'd lose even by his own metric, he resorted to attacking your character instead, via the credibility of accomplishments made. He also has conceded that you're better at science than him, so I guess you've already won... short of changing the topic towards his preferred digital mediums or letting the topic become about Global Warming as a diversion. 

If Legga is as he claims, for sure. Neither would ever agree, the OP in this thread is foolish and delusional while we're at it. And by your action here, you'll push back at the 1 person encouraging Legga to think twice before letting shallow intent govern what he passionately smears as true, when it's known to be false. 

I don't recall changing the topic toward any of my preferences or expertise. 

 



He'd likely only respect your intelligence if you were to use it to do the things he's good at, since his only real foray with science was him trying to describe how to build Perpetual Energy. Maybe if you two discuss Perpetual Energy, you'll be speaking from a level playing field? It is an area where Science and Engineering meet. 

 I'd respect it if he was better than me at it. I think most 3D artist are shit and won't clap my hands because someone simply knows how to use the softwares. If however someone knows how to do absolutely everything with 3D software but is still shit, they are worth having on the team, as 3D studios are constantly running into issues, and each worker at some point seeks help for various reasons, including how to get a feature to work.  

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Jada said: 

Theres 0% chance I'll login to Grok while pasting any SC content there, which is whats required for the url feature. However, you can log out of Grok, go to private browser, paste the content of the last page and ask Grok whether Spatial answered Jada's question or not, and it will give you the same/similar response.

 Oh I wouldn't just post the content of the last page, as the Ai wouldn't consider the entirety and reason for my being and therefore be biased toward me. 

Like I said, I'm not here to appease your demons, but I'll give you a hit of crack....

You listed 12 intellectual achievements, though I don't consider researching at 18 and beating your wife in an argument, ONCE, to be intellectual achievements. If you really want to know, I have more than 10 intellectual achievements, but that changes nothing does it ?

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Why dont you go ahead and list those intellectual achievements then? Must be great if you consider researching at a professional level at 18 not to be an intellectual achievement. Also, you clearly haven't had a wife to argue with if you think that winning an argument with your wife doesnt count as an intellectual achievement.

You still didn't answer the question by the way.

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Jada said: 
I really think that list of intellectual achievements from you would help speed things along, instead of arguing over how much you don't want to, how much my intellectual achievements dont matter, and how much you can just rely on your gut feeling.

For the sake of the topic, I've decided to answer for him.

I decided to comb through the 'Who is smarter' topic, and found he actually did list his idea of achievements: 

If I were to boast, I'd go on about my Bitcoin technical analysis graph that I drew in Alice's trading group, and the thing lasted for 2 years into the future hitting my spaced out markers from a 3k price point and up. This isn't something I use in arguments, but I'd argue my graph is better than yours. To others I performed a miracle, but to me this is a late study combined with something I learned in grade 6.
He then continues to brag and puff out his chest over how "You never heard of my wealth from me, but from other members who were in that group", which is just silly when you consider how often he's bragged about it and how I only really know about it from him, all the while refusing to prove it to you (short of rambling about eCoin for the rest of the first page) while demanding you prove yourself by doxxing yourself. 

I've generally noticed he brags about his victories, but never brings up his losses in the market. If he loses as often as he wins, that'd account for him not gaining as much growth as you'd find impressive. 
No he did mention at least one of his losses, but that was also to brag. He said that he lost 120k (or 70, 100, or something like that) once in an investment and could "laugh about it", presumably to show that 120k isn't a lot of money to him.
 
It's curious that he didn't list that 70/120k loss in his response to you, though, in that part where he talks about his transparency with unsuccessful investments. He instead listed a 4k loss. A 120k loss seems more relevant to mention after a 90k win was listed. It's somewhere in the chat or a forum post, but its difficult to find on this forum.
 
At any rate, I do believe he has been successful in investing. Ive seen many people who made money off of crypto, including some of my friends who've made more than him. Some of them were lucky, some took advantage of the early market when stupid/simple tactics were still successful, others used very sophisticated mathematical models. I believe him, theres nothing very extraordinary about it to me, and he has underperformed some of my acquaintances. 
 
 
By page two he's bragging about: 

Well there are hundreds of thousands of electric wheelchairs out there with components of my design. I also posess schematics for machinery that I made. Engineers love me. I kinda am one at heart.

If you dig far enough back he used to brag about self-transformation and beliefs in himself as some sort of mentor-figure too, Life Guru shit with a Phoenix as his Spirit Animal, even odd ideas on Truesight like some sort of Christian Shaman, but I'm not sure if he'd call those accomplishments over how subjective those are. It's this and his ability to make 3D models, which we've seen sprawl across numerous topics. I'm thinking, based on his track record, if there was more to bring up that we'd have heard about it already. 

I would charitably include it in his list of achievements. You're right. He has made it clear over the years what hes proud of, and if there was significantly more we'd have heard about it.

 

Spatial has shown comfort and joy in the art of bragging, it made the idea of him not wanting to suspicious. Go figure when I looked through the topic again he actually had been bragging while explaining on repeat why he doesn't want to, before complaining about how you'd wipe the floor with him when it comes to Science while simultaneously calling you dumb and dim via comparing your achievements to his god daughter's skill of repetitious familiarity with Dora the Explorer. 

Yeah that was funny, what was funnier though is that he simultaneously also didn't believe the achievements. 

And yes it is very suspicious that he doesnt want to engage in bragging despite having a track record for it. I also heard about the achievements from him, not others.

 

With it obvious that he'd lose even by his own metric, he resorted to attacking your character instead, via the credibility of accomplishments made. He also has conceded that you're better at science than him, so I guess you've already won... short of changing the topic towards his preferred digital mediums or letting the topic become about Global Warming as a diversion. 

Yeah that was my point, I gave him several ways to prove that I'm the moron he says I am by proving that he's smarter. If I'm an idiot then there's no harm in taking that physics challenge.

And yes he did concede I am better at science, despite being an idiot, although he wanted to minimize it right after.

At this point its mainly me bringing up the topic as a reminder whenever Spatial shows up from the woodworks to minimize my intellect and resurrect his tirade. I have no doubt in my mind Ive already won, which is why I think reminding him of the thread is a good retort.

 

He'd likely only respect your intelligence if you were to use it to do the things he's good at, since his only real foray with science was him trying to describe how to build Perpetual Energy. Maybe if you two discuss Perpetual Energy, you'll be speaking from a level playing field? It is an area where Science and Engineering meet. 

I guess based on this post it's possible to compile a list for him:

1. Highly successful in making money through investing

2. Excellent 3d modelling outputs

3. Made a part of an electric wheelchair

4. Attempt at the perpetual energy thing

5. Life guru

Anything missing from that list Spatial?

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If anything I would've said something like I can lose 120k and sleep easy, but I never lost that much. Plus losing money isn't my focus. Like we don't succeed then carry on about strikeouts, that would only make you happy is all. 

Anyway, I'm enjoying watching the both of you doing your darndest to belittle me based on good things.

Back to what I'm talking about, Legga has demons, and he's been mislead by them yet again with that childish tantrum for beating Inq years ago. For a scientist who even won the big debate, that's very dishonorable, cringe and shameful behavior, right Nathan ? Oh no it's not ? Instead we're gonna scrounge for something to hit Tony with ? Okay -__- ya'll the same. 

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Still curious as to the trigger leading to the OP in the first place, too.

...I don't think it's as dramatic as Spatial is putting it.  Probably just a "light bulb" moment that just came up?

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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Still curious as to the trigger leading to the OP in the first place, too.

...I don't think it's as dramatic as Spatial is putting it.  Probably just a "light bulb" moment that just came up?

 Long ago Legga and Inquirer had a debate. Legga won that debate, and for some reason, Legga has a passionate hate for Inq that he brings up all the time as though it haunts him in his sleep. It happens in episodes where Legga would become totally irrational in his ways of thinking. 

This time the episode entailed that Inq is you, along with a list of other people. 

Now IF, everyone reached a consensus that you are indeed Inq, that would've made Legga your mortal enemy and the only way to stop him from treating you like shit would be to prove you're not Inq. 

In this thread I'm calling Legga out for being a sore winner, which is actually unheard of. Not to mention this is not the behavior of someone with a high IQ. 

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