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The same thing could be said about nearly anyone here, even the doxxed to some degree (they'd have the best information available to imitate), so it really goes nowhere.
Not really. Most members are very recognizable and were active on SC2. It's people like you who cant be validated.
 
 
The testimony to my authenticity comes from three diverse sources: two of which are historically disagreeable with one another (other than my identity), and one unrelated source, as well. There are probably several others that could verify my voice as well, from various incarnations of SC on Discord and other servers. 
From how far back? I never heard your voice until that vocaroo thread 1-2 years ago and you sounded like Inquirer. And yes it can be done with AI. You could train an LLM with Inquirer's voice if you kept recordings of Skype conversations with him and stored them.
 
I made the case way back that pictures and voice clips will lead to doxing as technology evolves, and that voice recordings could be faked. Some folks laughed at me because of that. Some years later, it became commonplace to search via images. Voice doxing is coming soon, probably. Fake recording is also very accessible now. All it used to take is going on discord to a random server and ask someone there to make a recording for you, now you dont even need to do that.
 
I could even use post timestamps 12 years ago to infer which users are the same people. That's how I proved the jhawk/Tom and Inquirer/SensitiveSoul connections before they became public knowledge. I could do a better job now, though. I could use ollama and LLMs for sentence analysis and use more appropriate sigma levels, I kind of winged it in a rush back then, as I did it mainly because Edvard said I couldn't. I didn't compute a Bayes factor nor did I report any statistically rigorous confidence level. 
 
 
The only point to all this could be some statement on anonymity and the puerility of making any assertions for accomplishments, identity and prestige without doxxing yourself.
We're all anonymous here. 
 
In those terms, you will have to lean more heavily on testimony, while *Tony* has the "benefit" of being doxxed. (But, as I said, any of this could be faked by someone willing to put in some minimum effort, regardless.)
Hes not really doxed, and his anonymity should be respected. Despite his recent attacks, I wouldn't use his real name here nor would I look him up. That's just good manners.
 
 
...Oh, I should add, formally, that I am *not* Inquirer, nor have I ever been.

There is no evidence of that.

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What's similar vs different between the two? 

Anecdotally speaking I just don't see how they'd be the same person. 

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Spatial, when you say 'smart', you're meaning 'wise' aren't you? 

Obviously Legga is smart, that's not really up for debate. 

You find him unwise I take it. 

He's certainly not wise. When I say he lacks sense it learns toward his lack of wisdom.

Now for argument sake he's saying I'm not really doxxed while virtue signaling, as if no one here can hit up my family and talk shit about me. What do you make of that falsehood Nathan ?

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Spatial, when you say 'smart', you're meaning 'wise' aren't you? 

Obviously Legga is smart, that's not really up for debate. 

You find him unwise I take it. 

He's certainly not wise. When I say he lacks sense it learns toward his lack of wisdom.

Now for argument sake he's saying I'm not really doxxed while virtue signaling, as if no one here can hit up my family and talk shit about me. What do you make of that falsehood Nathan ?

Yet I have significantly more intellectual achievements than you and I have 20+ people relying on my advice, whereas you have none.

We could make an additional topic to determine which one of us is more 'wise' if youre giving up on the low IQ thing and admit I'm smarter than you.

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What's similar vs different between the two?

Anecdotally speaking I just don't see how they'd be the same person.

Whats similar between Inquirer and BT?

Im not going by their behavior. Or at least that's not the primary reason. Theyre dissimilar. However, all of Inquirer's sockpuppets were distinct from one another. SensitiveSoul and Inquirer were dissimilar too. However, they took vacations together (same quiet periods), they had the same active hours, and they both knew Swedish, among other things. 

I'm not actually claiming BT is Inquirer. I'm saying it's a reasonable possibility. I'd maybe put it at 40%. However, it's high enough a probability that it cannot be discounted. One of the reasons is that Inquirer is the usual suspect for these things because of his reputation. Another reason is that BT sounds a lot like Inquirer. It's also curious that BT became more active when Inquirer left. Usually it's hard to maintain two or more active sockpuppets so you divide the time between them, so when one goes on vacation the other one gains proportionally more active time. BT was also not active on SC2 so it's weird/suspicious that he'd suddenly show up for SC3 after SC1, similar to other fake accounts that were created.

Buttered Toast is almost too different from Inquirer, like it's on purpose. Inquirer's traits are exaggerated because he's a sockpuppet. What he usually does with his sock puppets is that he removes those exaggerated characteristics and replaces them with another set, to distinguish the different characters. It's what happened with Sensy, and could be happening here.

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Spatial, when you say 'smart', you're meaning 'wise' aren't you? 

Obviously Legga is smart, that's not really up for debate. 

You find him unwise I take it. 

I have a much looser grasp on his wisdom when compared to his apparent mental alacrity, but I've found the guy to have struggles with Empathy. 

Now for argument sake he's saying I'm not really doxxed while virtue signaling, as if no one here can hit up my family and talk shit about me. What do you make of that falsehood Nathan ?

He has a habit of Reductio ad Absurdum to try to render the end findings that much more concrete. 

Rather than expressing his views in a manner that demonstrates his opinions, he's sticking to pure rhetoric. He lacks for example my own findings across BT and Inq's very separate experiences, and even if he had those they'd be too anecdotal. 

He tries to make the process become as rigid and concrete as possible so he can adopt them as his own in future talks. 

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It boils down to trust in TC's testimony.  If any trust for TC's credibility in corroborating with Jada (or if they are/were Legga), TC is the one to have ever heard or seen or related in anyway with both Inquirer and me, able to distinguish between us.  And to reiterate the necessity of arguments of authority in the absence of identity, it renders into that decision.  To believe or not to believe TC.  One could choose to think that it's possible for TC to be wrong about one assertion or the other, but then we will just continue down this path.

It still doesn't answer the more interesting question:  Why?

Jada has thrown this my way a time or two; not sure if it was specifically related to Inquirer, but kind of makes more sense now.  I don't think it's animosity or trauma that turns Jada's thoughts toward Inquirer so much after so much time.  Maybe they've actually been Inquirer all this time, returned to stir up attention and perhaps dredge up painful things for those they'd sooner move on from.

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Wait...  Was there another Buttered Toast from *Nabble*?  I never came from that site.  My path here began from the old Sociopath World site.

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Even if I explained it, he'd express that a mix of acting talent and digital remixing could account for things like vocal tone and accents. While I have seen Inquirer, many times, your having only been a voice means he can cast doubt on it. While I can account for times where both you and him were talking at the same time, from the same vs separate environments, he has enough experience arguing with himself under multiple aliases to use as a basis to not trust when two people are doing it for real. 

Because he has as much experience as he does with being fake, he cannot trust anyone else to be any less fake than him. It's projection, he just needs to settle into the idea that most people don't try as hard as he does to conceal themselves, and once he's done that he needs to accept that they mostly made it out of things okay, even if that involves him being the wrecking ball to prove it to himself. 

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Wait...  Was there another Buttered Toast from *Nabble*?  I never came from that site.  My path here began from the old Sociopath World site.

 Sociopath World had a forum, that forum was a separate site powered by Nabble. 

Some Nabble users never used SW. Wasn't all that interested in M.E. Thomas's vlog. That woman, heh. Just imagine having one of those on your hands. 

When I look at the archive for Nabble, the search function is broken obviously, but I can't remember if you were there in the same way I remember many others. I don't see a Buttered Toast. Legga might have been Kage, but if not I don't know why he was. 

Maybe I first saw you at Lunas. The black cat with the toast with a butter square attached to its side. You were pretty cunty back then too, so any approaches would have to be a gentle one. Now it's as though Fae filled you with the Holy Spirit in the hotel on that good day.  

M.E. and Luna had a falling out. Maybe it was a power struggle over who would rule the forum Luna created, so deals were off pretty early after SC's launch, so M.E. would have severed any links to SC.

With that when and how you found this group comes into question. 

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