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Jada said: 
It's the detector. It's next to the spine inside a pressure point by my left shoulder blade.

Should see a doctor maybe then.

No.

I like having a 6th sense.

 

That guy in particular. His ex's throw themselves at me, and it's his fault.

Sure they do buddy.

I might have mentioned he has cousins that want to fuck me.

Are these cousins in the room with us now?

I mentioned him cockblocking me yes. But the piece I wrote basically had nothing to do with girls Legga you dumb ass. It had to do with how he lost all of us. His friends, his siblings, his lady friends, 1 parent, his daughter, acquaintances. Everyone casted him out.

Yeah the story wasnt about him cockblocking you. That was kind of my point. You just kept going on and on about how he's taking girls from you, how you feel upset girls are drawn to him even though hes such a slimy guy, and how youre in competition with him on kindness. None of this had anything to do with the story, but you kept talking about it, hence why I paid attention.

Its a bit like if you tell you a baseball story. It has nothing to do with a guy called Jack. But then suddenly you go on a tangent to describe Jack's dick to everyone for half the story. It reveals something about you.

https://sociopathcommunity.com/Forum/Topic/29244/3/the-importance-of-kindness-for-success

There's no signs of your claims in the post you're talking about. Which says a lot actually.

You're exactly like he is. Lacking in sense. While his case obviously resonates with you, check this next line...

....Your version of, my story....

is falsely about me venting in jealousy.

I wrote about him and you're able to relate, so as you transpose yourself into his misfortune with others, you find yourself in the same place, then feel like I'm talking about you.

You fail to understand what I wrote, because you're too busy trying to overstand me. In nature you think you can overstand, overwrite and alter the truth, and you do it alot.

You're giving it your all. Don't give up hope.

Giving my what all?

 I learned something and I see the hopelessness now. You can only learn the hard way, as an outcast like that guy I told you about.

You need to start being honest with yourself and others. I'm interested in truth, not toying around with your phantoms saying things that aren't true for arguments sake. You've always been good at spewing shit, and the reason why you hear from me like this is because shit is very toxic to me.

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I'll most likely never think you're bright. This is something that speaks for itself. Kirk was shot cause he displayed a higher intelligence, so they silenced him. When people are smart it shows.

While I think you're an ass, you demand I acknowledge something I cannot see in you. I don't think a smart person would ever make such demands, and carry on just being a smart person.

But you...Just have to prove it. That you must be praised cause you never got a taste of the recognition you demand of me.

Demanding. That's the mark of someone who's out of touch, and makes themselves into an outcast. A very unwise state of being.

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To be rich and eat vegan food all day idk.

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Mostly fiction, fantasy or sci-fi. I mostly (perhaps autistically) get lost in the worldbuilding and details, then mood and ADHD pull me to focus on something else.
You have adhd? I wouldve never guessed.
 
Its a muscle I think. I get lost in detail all the time, and then I need to consciously pull myself out. It's like a muscle you train to make your thoughts more accessible to people when realising they're nowhere as deep in the conversation as you are. Then after a while it comes naturally for that specific domain of knowledge.
 
 
It's one of my personal, internal battles. What I want to write about would probably amount to escapism that I would like others to enjoy, than necessarily something like social commentary or whatever. Perhaps that makes it more toward "pulp" sort of content, but without yet having "gotten into it", hard to say what really fits or what captures me the most.
What comes naturally to you? What do you enjoy? For me, it's writing about the natural world. I fucking love Physics. That's why I'm so good at it. I love learning about how the world works, how humans function, quantum physics, astronomy, general relativity, mathematics, and philosophy. I think I'm the last human who has mastered science.
 
A discussion on meaning and purpose would deserve its own thread, obviously probably. Meaning and purpose looks to me to be a stratified project. There are universals and case-specifics.
Nah, theres meaning that is universal. Everyone wants to be happy.
 
I feel like much of my philosophical thought is centered around unifying concepts. To me, there are no universal or case specifics. Theres one answer, and its the job of philosophy to discover that answer. I.e. the meaning of life.
 
The majority of human experience with meaning and purpose is entirely self-projected and self-directed.
Self projected as in we invent purpose? I respectfully disagree. The purpose is there, irrespective of whether we discover it or not.
 
 
It is important to me in that it sets the priorities and hierarchy of choices,
Yeah I suppose purpose does influence what we do. Sounds to me like you subscribe to this "everything is subjective" view of philosophy. I think its intellectual suicide and to me represents death of knowledge.
 
 
and remaining cognizant that meaning and purpose is constantly being rewritten by our own internal processes and the external circumstances we face.
Meaning and purpose, to me, is not constantly being rewritten. It can certainly be refined. Rewriting purpose, to me, sounds like someone someone who is totally aimless, like a sheep being herded by the wolves, would do.
 
 
 
Lots of science on that, I'm sure you're aware of: Decision Theory, Game Theory, etc.
You lost me. What game theory?
 
 
However, the impression I usually get from talk about meaning and purpose for others is significance. Of oneself, of one's experiences. The world would be far less interesting if everyone was the same. You may not be able to relate to it, but I think it helps us understand ourselves better sometimes.
Nah, we're ultimately all the same. Give me two people whose purposes are different.
 
 
 

With all that and everything else being said, I still have "cage diving with great white sharks" on the top of my Bucket List. I think it conditionally applies to the thread, right?
Yes!
 
Ok good, I totally support you in getting eaten by sharks.
Chicken. Said he who's afraid SC would ruin his life or something if he actually proved anything.
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To be rich and eat vegan food all day idk.

 You ?

It's nearly impossible for someone so anti capitalist.

Maybe when you grow up and kinda leave Antifa, you'll find a way.

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 You ?

It's nearly impossible for someone so anti capitalist.

Maybe when you grow up and kinda leave Antifa, you'll find a way.

 yawn. it's only you guys that project your ideas of what anti capitalism means and it's not a vow of poverty which is a religious romantacist thing. anti capitalists usually want people to be able to have work and be well off just from basic working alone and not insider trading and etc.

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 You ?

It's nearly impossible for someone so anti capitalist.

Maybe when you grow up and kinda leave Antifa, you'll find a way.

 yawn. it's only you guys that project your ideas of what anti capitalism means and it's not a vow of poverty which is a religious romantacist thing. anti capitalists usually want people to be able to have work and be well off just from basic working alone and not insider trading and etc.

 I'd like that too actually. But equality of outcome cannot work.

Some jobs will never be done without any incentive. And why do it when all jobs pay the same.

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Objectivity is a subjective experience.  You don't actually "have thoughts", you experience thinking.  You don't get any "ought" from all this "is".

It's hard to divest oneself the bias of your very existence, and the sentimentality of it, in order for such words as "purpose" or "meaning" to have "value" other than the frame of reference you are making.  I recognize that it matters to you, but beyond that...  But does it have to be beyond that?  No.  It's exactly enough.

...It's not quite that self-centered either.  You can have altruistic purpose and meaning; concern for your family, or neighbors, or country, or society, or even the future of humankind.  You could dedicate yourself to the task of giving the opportunity of others to find meaning of their own.  It doesn't mean that it isn't one decided upon by the individual.  ...Where is purpose and meaning most impactful?  Where does its salience lie?

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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I want to go for a walk in nature again in solitude. I want to tell stories around a campfire. I want to stop experiencing social anxiety. I want to stop having to try so hard to control people, if anything I want to do it unconsciously. More than anything I don't want to need to do it at all. I want certain sects of sufism to not continue. I want the stars to make sense. I want to be an armchair violin player. I want the goverment to do better. I want people to accept their dharma unusually. I want to be more passive. I want my boss to stop acting like a mushroom prisoner. I want to listen to classical music. I want to articulate and persaude effortlessly with short and long term strategy. I want to stop using sun tan lotion. I want to experience truth and bliss. I want to drink strawberry soylent in a smug way while in tears over the state of the economy later on. I want to play strategy games and create art without my partner getting somehow jealous over it. I want to write poetry. I want to stop being poor. I want to stop using penile enhancement creams. I want to go back to not being charismatic constantly in a boring way or attain the peace I used to have within solitude. I want the government to do better. I want to feel universal Love. I want to never get unusual plastic surgery. I want to be introverted and extroverted at the same time and manage the contrasting energy better. I want to be transgender. I want jewish people to embrace zionism with love. I want to stop crying about economic arguments. I want to stop having to fake emotions all the time or do it with no energy in a more meaningful way. I want to meet the buddha. I want to stop being addicted to the internet. I want to fabricate ancient emotions related to compassion. I want to experience magick within magic. I want to find the symmetry in asymetry. I want to stop being a mama's boy. I want the other webforum I derailed with soft banter over ideology to come back online without apoligising to the moderator and admitting most of the trolls were just me on alts with a vpn. I want to go outside again, for once. I want more fake research papers in the world. I want to read a book. I want to understand non-euclidean geometry. I want to look exactly like philosopher kierkegaard. I want to not need to manage my boundaries with too much effort. I want anti-matter to go away. I want to stop being an invested empathic schizoid. I want to never discuss Plato with a bridesmaid. I want to use Go strategies to do it unconsciously. I want to argue over ideology. I want to see people in both a rudimentary way and on a higher-level while appealing to nobler motives without feeling disconnected or irritated by it. I want to learn how to talk without saying anything at all. I want to know if the dinosaurs really looked the way science claims. I want to stop projecting onto me constantly. I want to have an agendaless agenda. I want ends to be separate from means. I want to hear music in the grass rustled by the wind. I want to talk to God again. I want to be aware of my surroundings and able to tune out noise while conserving energy. I want to study cultures. I want to speak to peoples' hearts; understand their beliefs and values, motives and mechanisms, reasons for action, without getting close. I want to see a strange collection of modern artifacts. I want to vividly remember my nightmares and have no effect from them. I want to feel like I have no mouth and I must scream forever and deal with it normally. I want every man to be an island with no ocean. I want to observe more with keen interest and perception and not feel disturbed. I want to be in sakshi. I want to watch thunderstorms and think and feel.

I don't want anything at all.

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Objectivity is a subjective experience. You don't actually "have thoughts", you experience thinking. You don't get any "ought" from all this "is".

It's hard to divest oneself the bias of your very existence, and the sentimentality of it, in order for such words as "purpose" or "meaning" to have "value" other than the frame of reference you are making. I recognize that it matters to you, but beyond that... But does it have to be beyond that? No. It's exactly enough.

...It's not quite that self-centered either. You can have altruistic purpose and meaning; concern for your family, or neighbors, or country, or society, or even the future of humankind. You could dedicate yourself to the task of giving the opportunity of others to find meaning of their own. It doesn't mean that it isn't one decided upon by the individual. ...Where is purpose and meaning most impactful? Where does its salience lie?

This is absurd. Look at those around you. They behave like they have purpose, they live their lives, try to find happiness, and dream.

You can't "prove" that they have purpose, like you can't "prove" that you're not a brain in a vat or live in the Matrix. However, they clearly do, and we clearly don't live in the Matrix.

Chicken. Said he who's afraid SC would ruin his life or something if he actually proved anything.
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Jada said: 
Objectivity is a subjective experience. You don't actually "have thoughts", you experience thinking. You don't get any "ought" from all this "is".

It's hard to divest oneself the bias of your very existence, and the sentimentality of it, in order for such words as "purpose" or "meaning" to have "value" other than the frame of reference you are making. I recognize that it matters to you, but beyond that... But does it have to be beyond that? No. It's exactly enough.

...It's not quite that self-centered either. You can have altruistic purpose and meaning; concern for your family, or neighbors, or country, or society, or even the future of humankind. You could dedicate yourself to the task of giving the opportunity of others to find meaning of their own. It doesn't mean that it isn't one decided upon by the individual. ...Where is purpose and meaning most impactful? Where does its salience lie?

This is absurd. Look at those around you. They behave like they have purpose, they live their lives, try to find happiness, and dream.

You can't "prove" that they have purpose, like you can't "prove" that you're not a brain in a vat or live in the Matrix. However, they clearly do, and we clearly don't live in the Matrix.

Yes, "behave like" is a proper caveat.  And you're right about the unprovables.  However, that's not quite what I'm getting at, I think.  It's agnostic about that, because it would function exactly the way I'm describing, either way.  Going that direction would likely be a tangent.

It sounds more like a deontological discussion.  And having tried writing this post three times and then rethinking, my aim toward the issue might be more accurate this time around, I hope...

Irregardless of being a brain in a jar or an actual person in a physical universe, it is also an unprovable (right now) that human beings (and conscious beings more generally, probably -- including certain other animals on our planet to different degrees, maybe, but hard to know) aren't the source of meaning in the universe.  In a sense, purpose is also a human invention, but perhaps more the "meaning of purpose" which is closer to experience.  Purpose is on a scale from Richard Dawkins' "selfish gene" to the code of an algorithm or ...whatever; anything that has an arrangement of matter which directs it to a certain behavior might definitionally have "a purpose".  But how could it know or care?  What does purpose matter without meaning?  (Strange things words are, hm?  Especially the very messy English language.)  There is definitely a tangle there to unravel, but it involves language...a symbolic medium that uses meanings of words we made up.

In some sense, I don't think we're really in disagreement.  At least not about the situation we're in, but maybe the emphasis of some part or another.  I think we'd come to some sort of agreement after a much more deconstructed and tangential process.  But who knows?

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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