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Delora said: 

Hawk said: 

Feathers said:  

Once, as a child I made my mother cry because I hid in the store to play “hide and seek”. She shut down the whole store. I only came out when I heard her cry. I said ”Don’t cry mommy, it’s okay to lose hide and seek”. I thought perhaps, she was sad that she lost the game (what I would be sad about). So, I was comforting her for loosing the game. I didn’t understand her perspective of ”my child is missing and I’m scared som bad might happen”. 

 lol. My parents would've broke my ass, and I'd be fixed long ago.

 .........what? 

Ignorant.

Ignorant nothing.

If I played hide and go seek in department stores on my parents, they'd absolutely break my ass. No joke.

If that were even the case. how silly it would be to complain about that as an adult. 

My parents beat the fuck out of me and I'm just as autistic but with my good friend PTSD 

 I don't claim autism can be fixed with corporal punishment, however, If an autistic person was punished, they'd certainly understand.

Take Noah for example. His Father did what ? And now he's better. 

I'll turn on you.

Delora said: 

Feathers said: 

I saw a Tik Tok for an autistic moment.

The autistic person was like “did you make dinner?” looking for a yes or no answer. The partner didn’t reply.

Later, the partner said ”are you happy, I made dinner now”. She said ”huh? I picked up dinner. I wanted to know if you made it, yes or no and got no answer”. 

The partner realised the autistic person was not implying he should make dinner. It was a real genuine question to decide the next move.

What? Well yeah of course it would be. Man neurotypicals are odd.

But the thing is, a non autistic person would probably be implying “you should make dinner”. The problem is, we are not likely to pick up on that unless we experienced that exact scenario before. 

Yeah br and I communicate very directly irl at all times.

Autistic Tik Tok is calling it ”implied initiative”. We do not see the implied call to take initiative, nor do we imply it. 

Another thing I notice, if I complain about something we can’t fix, people say “well I can’t change that”. As if, that magically makes it better. Like, example, the temperature at work. Not being able to change it, is the reason I’m complaining… if I could change it, I would. Then I would not complain lol. 

 Once I accidentally implied a woman was a pedophile when I was not trying to because she told me she just waltzes into the men's room with multiple men in it (which I doubt she actually does that I think she was just trying to make a political point) and I said "what if a little boy is trying to pee and he's uncomfortable a grown woman he doesn't know can see his dick?" Oh my god she was pissed

 that's not a neurotypical thing the partner is just retarded. also he sounds a lil sassy 'are u happy now'. are we sure they're not both autistic lmao?

Golden_Eagle said: 

Delora said: 

Hawk said: 

 lol. My parents would've broke my ass, and I'd be fixed long ago.

 .........what? 

Ignorant.

Ignorant nothing.

If I played hide and go seek in department stores on my parents, they'd absolutely break my ass. No joke.

If that were even the case. how silly it would be to complain about that as an adult. 

 

My parents beat the fuck out of me and I'm just as autistic but with my good friend PTSD 

 I don't claim autism can be fixed with corporal punishment, however, If an autistic person was punished, they'd certainly understand.

Take Noah for example. His Father did what ? And now he's better. 

I'll turn on you.

 they wouldn't understand u spaz lol, they're autistic. they probably wouldn't even know specifically why it was a problem, just that they weren't supposed to hide in a store

natasha87 said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Delora said: 

 .........what? 

Ignorant.

Ignorant nothing.

If I played hide and go seek in department stores on my parents, they'd absolutely break my ass. No joke.

If that were even the case. how silly it would be to complain about that as an adult. 

 

My parents beat the fuck out of me and I'm just as autistic but with my good friend PTSD 

 I don't claim autism can be fixed with corporal punishment, however, If an autistic person was punished, they'd certainly understand.

Take Noah for example. His Father did what ? And now he's better. 

I'll turn on you.

 they wouldn't understand u spaz lol, they're autistic. they probably wouldn't even know specifically why it was a problem, just that they weren't supposed to hide in a store

Yes, I wouldn’t understand why I was punished. I would just not hide in the store. It doesn’t apply to other situations. 

For example, in second grade I got expelled for leaving the school yard. The teachers said ”she should know there’s dangers and kidnappers”.

Say, I know hiding in the store is wrong, but not that leaving the school yard during recess is too.

I did not know some people had bad intentions to the vulnerable (kids). That is the underlying problem… it’s the same reason women can’t walk in a dark alley at night.

I even walked around the hood at night not thinking anything of it, until my friends were shocked. They said ”maybe your confidence made them believe you were dangerous”. 

The underlying reason is, because society has bad intentions to vulnerable people all alone (especially children and women). 

Now when someone burns their hand, they learn not to touch the stove. Punishing me would only teach me that my parents are dangerous (not the real danger) unless they explained. 

But, it is sad you got abused. Many times I was punished for things I did not understand. It was made worse by the fact my parents are actually crazy (witnessed by Tryp and irl friends). Crazy parents + autistic child was a bad combo and exasperated the issues. 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Delora said: 

Hawk said: 

 lol. My parents would've broke my ass, and I'd be fixed long ago.

 .........what? 

Ignorant.

Ignorant nothing.

If I played hide and go seek in department stores on my parents, they'd absolutely break my ass. No joke.

If that were even the case. how silly it would be to complain about that as an adult. 

 

My parents beat the fuck out of me and I'm just as autistic but with my good friend PTSD 

 I don't claim autism can be fixed with corporal punishment, however, If an autistic person was punished, they'd certainly understand.

Take Noah for example. His Father did what ? And now he's better. 

I'll turn on you.

 I don't mean to be rude and I hope we are cool, I just get emotional about these things. This was after it was explained to him multiple times, the department store was a one time mistake for her. Also br is an autistic high functioning adult, Asperger's is not an excuse to do the things he did. Vs a little autistic girl making a genuine mistake one time

Delora said: 

Tryptamine said: 

So even after being out in the world on your own some time now, do you still feel as if your cognitive empathy isn't normal?

 Idk for me personally everyone else seems like they can read fucking minds

Yes, my friend has to remind me that non-autistics aren’t mind readers. They just pick up on implied information like the call to take initiative.

Like when your mom gets home and has groceries and expects you to help, without asking… I am not sure why it’s nicer to have an unsaid expectation then get mad, than to just explain the expectation clearly. 

Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Tryptamine said: 

So even after being out in the world on your own some time now, do you still feel as if your cognitive empathy isn't normal?

 Idk for me personally everyone else seems like they can read fucking minds

It's body language, like speaking with their bodies. 

I don't see how people ignore that stuff, I feel like people are yelling it at me. 

What’s an autistic body language? Faking eye contact and lots of confusion? 

Feathers said: 

Delora said: 

Tryptamine said: 

So even after being out in the world on your own some time now, do you still feel as if your cognitive empathy isn't normal?

 Idk for me personally everyone else seems like they can read fucking minds

Yes, my friend has to remind me that non-autistics aren’t mind readers. They just pick up on implied information like the call to take initiative.

Like when your mom gets home and has groceries and expects you to help, without asking… I am not sure why it’s nicer to have an unsaid expectation then get mad, than to just explain the expectation clearly. 

 ok so if your mom came home with groceries and didn't ask for help but u could see she was struggling and dropping stuff, maybe dropped a can on her foot lol, would you think to help? or would she still need to ask

Feathers said: 

I saw a Tik Tok for an autistic moment.

The autistic person was like “did you make dinner?” looking for a yes or no answer. The partner didn’t reply.

Later, the partner said ”are you happy, I made dinner now”. She said ”huh? I picked up dinner. I wanted to know if you made it, yes or no and got no answer”. 

The partner realised the autistic person was not implying he should make dinner. It was a real genuine question to decide the next move.

But the thing is, a non autistic person would probably be implying “you should make dinner”. The problem is, we are not likely to pick up on that unless we experienced that exact scenario before.

I've realized over time that a lot of conflicts (like this one) are due to a lack of clear communication. The partner who was asked the question didn't need to assume the worst of the other person and could have just answered, and the partner asking the question could have realized something was wrong by the lack of an answer and clarified why they were asking. I would say it's less the autistic person's fault here, but both communicated poorly.

Assume a worse scenario where the autistic person was asking because they were hungry...well if the two aren't on the same page as far as relationship roles, isn't it better for them to have that conversation instead of avoiding it? It seems better than above where one person makes things less clear because they feel upset (by something that wasn't happening, no less), and the other person doesn't fix it because they don't call out the weird little social move the normie is playing.

Sometimes these situations will always play out this way anyways when people are frustrated/annoyed with each other, etc. But a lot can be avoided by assuming others are acting with good intent, and having everyone's truth on the surface prevents weirdness and brooding resentments...

Tryptamine said: 

Feathers said: 

I saw a Tik Tok for an autistic moment.

The autistic person was like “did you make dinner?” looking for a yes or no answer. The partner didn’t reply.

Later, the partner said ”are you happy, I made dinner now”. She said ”huh? I picked up dinner. I wanted to know if you made it, yes or no and got no answer”. 

The partner realised the autistic person was not implying he should make dinner. It was a real genuine question to decide the next move.

But the thing is, a non autistic person would probably be implying “you should make dinner”. The problem is, we are not likely to pick up on that unless we experienced that exact scenario before.

I've realized over time that a lot of conflicts (like this one) are due to a lack of clear communication. The partner who was asked the question didn't need to assume the worst of the other person and could have just answered, and the partner asking the question could have realized something was wrong by the lack of an answer and clarified why they were asking. I would say it's less the autistic person's fault here, but both communicated poorly.

Assume a worse scenario where the autistic person was asking because they were hungry...well if the two aren't on the same page as far as relationship roles, isn't it better for them to have that conversation instead of avoiding it? It seems better than above where one person makes things less clear because they feel upset (by something that wasn't happening, no less), and the other person doesn't fix it because they don't call out the weird little social move the normie is playing.

Sometimes these situations will always play out this way anyways when people are frustrated/annoyed with each other, etc. But a lot can be avoided by assuming others are acting with good intent, and having everyone's truth on the surface prevents weirdness and brooding resentments...

 I think this is so true, it was a huge issue when you and I were a thing a while back was it not? Not everyone can handle a relationship with an autistic person and you know what that's OKAY.  And not every autistic person can handle dating a neurotypical I mean, look at all the cute autistic incel bois. So delicious glad I married one 😋💕

But seriously, I agree with you totally tryp your totally right

(Br suggested this post seems passive aggressive but it's not just wanted to throw that out there)