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Turncoat said: 

aubrieta said: 

Turncoat said: 

Aubrieta said:

I'm very anti-suicide and I think everyone should persevere through undesirable situations and find a solution to their problems

You were just ragging on her and I for being quote "the most suicidal people on the forum". 

saying that it's weak and undesirable isnt ragging on it. I'm not truly jealous of it, I don't really get jealous of anything. i'm not sure what the right word to use would be

Ragging doesn't mean jealous, it just means you were getting on our case in the form of mockery over it. 

you misinterpreted, I was mocking jim's ridiculousness

 jim basically was calling you and Alice "confident strong powerful" people, when in reality those who have attempted suicide are seen as the most fragile and weak by society

it's not mocking that, it's just stating facts. mocking jim for saying retarded ass shit tho yes

aubrieta said: 

Um both Alice and TC want to kill themselves retard, they are the opposite of strong they are both very much cowards and and have actively tried to commit suicide, Alice is currently in the process of attempting again rn as we speak

aubrieta said: 

Turncoat, you are a mentally ill loser dependent on handouts from the government who has attempted suicide from being so miserable. You are like, the definition of weak.

So when you say "Anti-suicide", you mean prone to cussing it out? 

Sven said: 

this fucking sucks. id'e like to understand a little more about the auto-immune issues that can cause your fucking liver to die, WTF, as this is crazy bad. hind sight, shit should have been done to prevent this, just stating the obvious. im pissed off and its not even me. now she's got to go through this fucked up mess. her parents must be just crazy upset

 

 She has autoimmune hepatitis. Her body doesn't recognize her liver, and attacks it as a foreign invader. This could have been prevented- or at least delayed a few years/ decades but she hasn't kept up with her doctor's appointments. She had a flare up and because there was no intervention her body destroyed her liver the way it would destroy a virus or parasite. Her parents are very upset, but they are thankful she is in the hospital now. She is going to be okay once she gets the transplant, its all just waiting now.

aubrieta said: 

I want to know if the medication was optional, or if there were bad side effects

The medication had bad side effects, she was on it for 6 years and because she hadn't had a flare up for so long she decided to stop taking it. Her doctor was aware she stopped, but she was supposed to get regular blood work 4 times a year to monitor her condition. At some point she got busy with school or decided she didn't want to go anymore and stopped getting her checkups.

, I want to know if there was an understandable reason for refusing to take meds and go to doctors appointments if you have liver disease. If there is a reason that makes it seem less like she's just been slowly committing suicide for three years and not telling anyone, and no one stepped in to intervene , I will be less angry.

She was stable for most of the 3 years of meds. This flare up started 2 months ago and she insisted the small symptoms come and go regularly so they didnt need to be checked. I didn't know any better, and I failed her by not getting her to a hospital sooner when symptoms got more serious. By the time symptoms were visible to me her mind had been affected and she couldnt feel how sick she was. She told me again she had been through it before and would be fine waiting, but she wasn't fine. She wasnt showing signs of confusion or cognitive difficulties and i had no idea she was having perception issues.

my first reaction to suicide is anger. I'm very anti-suicide and I think everyone should persevere through undesirable situations and find a solution to their problems

but at the same time i'm a little jealous of those who have so little worth living for that suicide is tempting enough to follow through with, because life as a human can really fucking suck especially if you are mentally or physically ill and do not have treatment available to significantly reduce your suffering and having to persevere through feeling suicidal especially if it is long-lasting is torturous

 Alice is not suicidal, i know that is hard to justify especially on this website, and especially considering her past, but before these symptoms she was very happy. She had a lot of big projects in motion she was excited about and even as she got sicker she kept working on them and talking about her excitement. Everything came to a screeching halt when the swelling started restricting her movement, and that was when I got her to go to the ER last week.

Turncoat said: 

aubrieta said: 

Um both Alice and TC want to kill themselves retard, they are the opposite of strong they are both very much cowards and and have actively tried to commit suicide, Alice is currently in the process of attempting again rn as we speak

aubrieta said: 

Turncoat, you are a mentally ill loser dependent on handouts from the government who has attempted suicide from being so miserable. You are like, the definition of weak.

So when you say "Anti-suicide", you mean prone to cussing it out? 

ya it makes me angry at both society and at the person suicide attempting, or who successfully completed it

the more innocent I think of the person who does it the more sad I will be, in addition to anger. if the person was predatory then I don't feel sadness

that's why there is a difference between how I feel towards Alice committing suicide vs how I feel if Tpg does. Tpg is pretty innocent so there is less anger and more sadness and wanting to prevent

aubrieta said: 

Turncoat said: 

aubrieta said: 

Um both Alice and TC want to kill themselves retard, they are the opposite of strong they are both very much cowards and and have actively tried to commit suicide, Alice is currently in the process of attempting again rn as we speak

aubrieta said: 

Turncoat, you are a mentally ill loser dependent on handouts from the government who has attempted suicide from being so miserable. You are like, the definition of weak.

So when you say "Anti-suicide", you mean prone to cussing it out? 

ya it makes me angry at both society and at the person suicide attempting, or who successfully completed it

the more innocent I think of the person who does it the more sad I will be, in addition to anger. if the person was predatory then I don't feel sadness

 

that's why there is a difference between how I feel towards Alice committing suicide vs how I feel if Tpg does. Tpg is pretty innocent so there is less anger and more sadness and wanting to prevent

 Can yall go somewhere else with this

Aubrieta said:

Can yall go somewhere else with this

Lol that's on her, I'm not the one insulting a dying person with self-directing chain-posting. 

It gets cold and stiff in the hospital for long periods- they probably won’t let you bring in a heating blanket for her but something you can do is wet a wash rag with hot water in the bathroom 

and then wrap the cloths around her feet or legs and put one on the forehead or the nape of the neck. Cold or hot whatever they prefer. Feels fantastic. 

Obviously ask first because, when ppl are in pain and going through it sometimes they just don’t want to be touched at all 

Mystery_rat, your idea about transplanting part of a liver from someone living is correct. 2 of Alice's family members are offering to donate part of their liver to her if she doesnt get a donor within the next 2 days. Her dad wants to donate but wasn't a match, which is very frustrating for him. 

So accident victim or not, Alice has some potential donors lined up. They live far away and need to be tested to see if they are a match first though.