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Edvard stated: source post

The fuck does this even mean. Express yourself more clearly.

i dont feel like it

Yeah you can, open that fucking mind piss-for-brain. You stereotyped my point automatically by thinking of how "tolerance campaign" has been done until now. I don't think instilling values of acceptance and cooperation into people means talking about the differences, but talking about things in common. I see no need for the differences to be pointed out at all.

no you cant

You're the one who needs to listen, bubble schizo. You've lost all credibility about understanding how things work in politics and society after linking grandpa Pat's video.

more prejudice

It's not telling people to be tolerant of other races but telling people to be tolerant about other people, fucktard. The labels of race, religion, sexuality need to be made as meaningless as possible since they carry a huge baggage of prejudice and bias. Simple minds like you need to be taught to look beyond this shit when they look at people, but focus on what really matters: each individual's merits, personality, talents, flaws, deeds. The entire lumping people together based on labels is dumb as hell, how you can't see it amazes me. It needs to be weeded out as much as possible, and ofc it would take centuries of education for that, until it reaches the thick skulls of so many tards in society.

teaching people to tolerate other people by the government is retarded LOL

here, i think you will like these books: https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/marxism

interesting, because anything that involves business lumps people together in risk assessment. and both military and police lump people together based on profiling. probably other fields too.

why? Because there are statistics. and they need to be taken into account.

if i lumped people together i would be so much different you mongoloid. i just do not deny the statistics and i see a problem and i point it out. i have already addressed that not all people are like that(muslims in this case), but you keep insisting i never did it. so fuck you i wont explain again to the crying toddler lol. its annoying as fuck to repeat myself for 1000 time. once we can see there is a problem, it can be addressed in such a way that doesn't fuel racism, respects individuals and doesn't deny problems and their cause. i almost repeated myself here, deleted it, nope. you annoying fuck.

Such bullshit. By this logic, if ISIS starts filling the media with their beliefs and incite people to join their cause we should just fucking ignore them? Because of freedom of speech or not to draw attention to them? What an idiot you are. They are the ones who draw attention to themselves. Racist talk draws attention to racist talk. The Dallas shooter liked a FB page of a group openly encouraging violence and hate towards cops, with fucking pictures of armed black people all over the place. "Take up arms and give them what they deserve" and what do you know, someone acted on this. Why was that group allowed to function and inspire? 

Yes, you should ignore them lol. The KKK has been having its rallies and gatherings in America since they have existed. No one cares about them and no one takes them seriously and everyone thinks they are stupid. This is the free market of ideas and how freespeech works.

You really don't like democracy do you?

Now you mix up inciting violence with racism and hate speech. Neat. I wonder what will be your next dishonest statement.
You can incite violence without hate speech and with it.
Hate speech laws and just general thinking that is a legit thing is nothing but a reason to close conversations, fuel hate even more and cause censorship.

Racial hate talk should be more than censored. They should be punished like any crime. Fines, whatever. Your argument could be applied to all the fucking criminals. "Punishing criminals gets them power and gives them talking point for their own crimes." The fuck? 

Punishing criminals doesn't give them power not gives them a talking point for their own crimes. You suck lol.

When the right wing says the minorities will take your liberty, then the left gives special rights to the minorities, then the normal people say thats unfair, then the left says thats racist, then the right wing says "told you so" and the normal people become right wing. Fucking magic.

 

I think it's time for people to take responsibility for what they are saying. They think they are entitled to say anything with 0 consequences, but there are consequences to what they are saying, and they need to understand them. They need to be responsibilized(?) via education and knowledge that they CAN be held responsible by society. Same as with any crime.

When that NRA guy was asked "why do you have loaded rifles in your house?" his answer was simply: "because it's my right". Well, him having that right is what's wrong.

The responsibilities of talking should never be enforced by law. You fucking scum bag.

Why don't you move to fucking China, there the government has created an app that monitors what you post on FB. And if they agree with it, then they get points, if they do not, then you lose points. And if you have friends with low points, you also lose points, so don't associate with those. Right now its not mandatory, but they plan, i think by 2020, to make it mandatory. Right now it has no benefits to your life or punishments. But they plan to give people with higher points more benefits, like discounts, while people with lower points punishments, like slower internet.

Doesn't that sound perfect? Make an app that does the same, but check for hate speech. What could go wrong, right?

Are you insane? Honestly.

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Your reaction is telling. I hit a nerve because you have no way to defend your fucking anti-cultururalmix drivel. You talk about "culture" as a static thing like an idiot, while it's forever changing and borrowing elements from other cultures, which in turn borrow elements from yours. I'm not saying it's an all good thing and I regret that some aspects of the past societies are being lost, but no fence or bitching or hate against other cultures is going to stop this. The best thing that can be done is identify the truly harmful elements of a culture (women oppression, sharia punishments) and target them specifically, guiding them patiently towards change.

You don't understand my reactions. I don't care what you think of them.

Never talked about culture as a static thing. You don't listen.

Hating is a strong word. But you should fucking definitely dislike shit cultures, what is wrong with you?
Of course that's the best thing. Maybe read my posts without prejudice.

What a fucking broken mentality you have Meta.

Impressive. Close your mind more. You assume someones personality, ideas and credentials by lumping them into a group.

Just above you talked how that's bad xD. I am actually laughing out loud.

Simple minded moron you are. Do you really see shit in black and white like this or are you genuinely trying to sound like a retarded 12 yo.

If you have a problem with how muslims "THINK" and believe it's toxic and they should be acted agaisnt for it, why all that crap about "freedom of speech" and "letting people say whatever they THINK?" Transparent biased cherry picking. This should be applied to all and all toxic mentalities blamed and corrected by society. In my experience I hear fewer muslims openly hating on western culture, encouraging to hang gays and bombing schools, than I read ignorant hateful shit said about them. Just on this site alone we have what, at least 5 people who declared themselves "anti-islamic" and openly engage in islam or racist bashing. Read some FB and YT comments these days and be repelled by some people's mentality. One small example, I watched this video the other day and read the comments there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mav2kkvakGY.

They can think whatever they want you retard. I do not want them gone. The problem is that they are not integrated. And this means that we need to think of a solution, that does not involve indoctrination. And this also means we need to be more wary of Muslims, because they are a higher risk, like it or not, its how it is.

See, politicians ignored these statistics and invited the entire Muslim world over, without any filtration or merit or even thought put into it.

You just don't understand what i am saying, because you put words in my mouth, because you assume i am this or that way, because you lump me into a group.

Do i have to show you videos of Islamists hating on the western world lol? This is anecdotal evidence and its irrelevant on its own.

I can't take anything you say seriously when you talk about morals as a bad thing. Fuck off in medieval edgyland pal. 

You have failed to give any clear statement on the "problem" so far. You are confused, pussyfooting around expressing a definite, unitary stance, and can't express yourself better than a 10 yo writing homework.

Apparently morals are not bad or good folks. Morals are subjective and we, the people, define what is good or bad. Man, fuck you Edvard. I can't talk to you without insult you, its frustrating  and then i lose motivation if i don't. Just saying morals can't be bad? Of course its not black and white, but there is always a fucking line, where it steps into fucking bad. Why the fuck do i need to explain this to you? Seriously?

The problem with Muslims is that they are too backwards to be accepted so openly and fast, without at least, at the very fucking least, they should be given special attention.

The other problem is that the above problem came from this "hate speech needs to be censored" mentality that shut down all conversations based on moral superiority and guilt.

 

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also, wth i cant post more then 10k letters? How will explain the very basics of life to Edvard then?

Anyone here wants me to remake this shit forum into something useful? Its dancing on my nerves.

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Hmmm...

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"Anyone here wants me to remake this shit forum into something useful? Its dancing on my nerves."

What?

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nothing, i told luna i can remake her forum some days ago in chat, she didn't appreciate me :(

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Eddie wrote: Transparent biased cherry picking.

PROJECTION!!!!

Eddie, you have done nothing but run blindly clutching desperately to your 'Belief' in MultiCulti, even with the evidence of the failure of it, drowning you in the duplicity of the manner in which the fail has been covered up...for your benefit. and to your detriment...lol...and you are a trained chimp of a mouth piece that continues to spout it. 

To handle your own dissonance you foist it on TFI and paint his arguments in black and white terms, such that you can have a hope in hell of a response. And still fail. Amazing. 

TFI wrote: You can incite violence without hate speech and with it.

Mmmmhmm....lol...doesn't require scratching very deep to find it either...and That is what the 'Hate speech' laws are about. ..organized instigation of violence for the sake of ...well....depends on which side of the equation you find yourself..as ever...and the absurdity is that it is already in full swing, and the spin is a Catch 22. Damned if you do or don't, so might as well...and see what happens..lol

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Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president Al Mohler also took to Twitter. “If you need evidence that religious liberty in America is in trouble, just look at this from Iowa,”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/july/iowa-churches-cant-discriminate-during-public-services.html

 

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

You really don't like democracy do you?

TBH I'm having major doubts about it. I think it works when the right questions are being asked from the people. When the population is uniformed, demanding, easily manipulated, ready to believe what they want to believe, it's definitely bad. The general population often lacks vision and a deep understanding of the situation. I don't trust the average guy at all, especially in countries like the USA. Sorry but I simply don't trust ordinary people's judgement in important matters.

"Democracy" can also be used as some sort of mantra to push forward agendas as "the will of the people". The Brexiters for example didn't vote for what they wanted, but for what they didn't want. The majority is not going to get the results they wanted, yet the process is still painted as "democratic".

 

Primal, maybe you can clear up some things by replying to this. Personally I hate criticizing without putting forward good replacement solutions. 

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You missed the point. People are sick to death of the fucking PC messages and the bullshit of them.
 

Alright. Let's say you Primal have won the presidency of USA and wooster is your VP. Let's even say you are a dictator and everything you want gets done. What will you do to make society work better given the current state? How will political incorrectness deal with the problems? Yeah people will start saying more offensive shit and hating on each other more openly, then what. I'd like you to explore this a bit please, I'm extremely curious to see what solutions/measures you'd take and what results/reactions from the people you imagine.

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Yeah people will start saying more offensive shit and hating on each other more openly, then what. I'd like you to explore this a bit please, I'm extremely curious to see what solutions/measures you'd take and what results/reactions from the people you imagine.

 

It's called respect. It works both ways And if you don't know what that means by this stage of your existence that it requires being legislated and /or gagged because people are sick of the bullshit, then you have bigger problems than you are currently aware of. 

 

And if both sides know what the result of disrespect looks like or doubts it...remind them. Best to let them sort it out on their own to a degree. 

 

 

 

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