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Your interest is fine... what is it you find interesting about a combat vet being cynical? 

Growing up in the region of this country I did had a "Mayberry" or "Leave it to Beaver" kind of affect on me as for how I viewed my nation.  She was amazing!  Even after a healthy dose of "Kennedy Assassinations", "Vietnam", and "Watergate" being shoved down my throat by my cynical father.  At the age of 11 Ronnie became our man, the economy was rocking, and in the head of a young patriot like myself the US of A would do God's will and reign in glory forever... yea, about that...

George H. proved to be intelligent but worthless as a world figure, Bill cheapens the office of our leader by getting his pole smoked in the Oval office by a 4 (couldn't even have gotten a hottie!), George W.? Holy Fucking Sheep Shit... and now the clown in the White House now... widow lickers All.

I have watched our infrastructure (high ways, water systems, etc.) falling apart for decades.  Congressional grid lock.  Massive over spending and continual pay raises to Senators and Representatives.  Horse shit leaders in our military... I think the better question would be do I see any light at all? 

A pin-prick...

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Primal stated: source post

You missed the point. People are sick to death of the fucking PC messages and the bullshit of them.
 

Alright. Let's say you Primal have won the presidency of USA and wooster is your VP. Let's even say you are a dictator and everything you want gets done. What will you do to make society work better given the current state? How will political incorrectness deal with the problems? Yeah people will start saying more offensive shit and hating on each other more openly, then what. I'd like you to explore this a bit please, I'm extremely curious to see what solutions/measures you'd take and what results/reactions from the people you imagine.

 

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 Sonnie Johnson stated: source post

 

  • Why in the fuck do I have to convince you the shit we’re been talking about for the last (....)  years is actually fucking happening right before your eyes?

 ^  And that's about all what needs to be said to some on here as well.

This coming from someone who said that "Brits are pretty much the most inclusive, tolerant and polite society you’ll ever find on the planet." You're completely oblivious to what's happening right under your nose right now.

Surge in Hate Crimes in the U.K. Following U.K.’s Brexit Vote

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/07/arsonists-set-fire-to-polish-familys-garden-shed/

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

I said the exact opposite thing. Your automatic stereotypes are blinding you to real points others make. I said there should NOT be made a big deal out of races and origins.

I don't do what you said i do.
You do it. You are retarded.

To bombard the benefits of tolerance, you have to involve race and origins. Or you can't! Lol.

You're stereotyping right now because you can't see past the limited picture you have etched in your head. Yes you can talk about tolerance without involving race and origins you moron. Say kids should get along with kids, not white kids should get along with black kids. Tolerance is not limited to race, origin, religion. Just focus on the factors that are common and relateable instead of the factors that are different.

 

And since they were doing this, people with minority status get more benefits then the majority and this creates racism, because its actually "reverse"-racism.

The massive improvement was done thats to not focusing on race and origins, which is the opposite of what the world is doing right now.

What a fucking moron you are Meta, go reread my post. I stated as clearly as possible that NOT focusing on these sort of differences is the solution. They should be cut out from everything that is news or education. No race or origins, but focus on the real factors relevant to each situation that is discussed. You are the one bitching that nationality or skin color is being "censored" you fucking turd. You are the one bitching that people making a big deal out of race/origins/religion are censored and should be granted "free speech". Stop contradicting yourself you cognitive dissonant immature schizoid. You sound like you have no clear vision or position on what you want, complete confusion. You sound like you are just making shit up or adapting your shit as more posts are made on this issue.

 

What i talk about is culture, you moron. Not race or origin. And culture should not be tolerated... if you think it should, then you are stupid. Culture is something that people are responsible for and have an effect over, unlike their origins and race.
Its like i have been talking to a wall the last several weeks. This is why i don't talk to you about this so much anymore. You don't listen, you have your own prejudice and ideological lenses and can't see beyond your own believes.

Today I wore a traditional batik shirt I bought from Bali, trained in a martial art from Thailand, listened to Spanish music, talked to this cute Slovakian girl I'm considering dating and ate Lebanese food. Goodluck guarding your culture bud, but I bet you are wearing jeans as opposed to benevretsi or nogavitsi and are listening to neue deutsche härte. Do you even listen to your traditional Bulgarian music, respect your traditional customs, practice Orthodoxy? Do you kiss dead saints remains Meta, like a good faithful Bulgarian? Hold onto your diluted "culture" and scream like a bitch as it is keeps getting changed by unstoppable forces.

 

Unlike you, i don't hold prejudice one way or another.

The only "prejudice" I have shown in this topic is against people not being able to see past race, origins, religion, and keep lumping people together. I have never said any category of people is "GOOD/NICE" or "BAD" since I believe that is immature lazy thinking of someone who lacks nuance and probably believes grandpa Pat's videos on YT are good sources for forming an opinion.

 

 Of course there are some NICE muslims. The issue is when all muslims are branded as GOOD, when over 75% hold backwards ideas and stand by them and think its good there are radicals that enforce them, they just don't do it themselves.

What do you know, I was right. Thinking in terms of NICE and GOOD lmao.

Every religion has fanatics and I'm against them being encouraged in any way. I'm firmly against sharia law in civilized countries. Moderate muslims are not a threat, and efforts should be made to "moderate" as many muslims as possible in non muslim countries. Not allowing sharia law courts is a good way to start, as there should be a common law for all citizens. Not allowing the more extreme burka wear that makes women look like pacman ghosts is a good start. Personally I do support these measures.

 

And i know this is about immigrants, even thought you didn't say it is. Correct me if i am wrong, but i am pretty sure i am right. Like always.

You're not right, you're a fucking dumbass on real life issues. You're an introverted schizoid who socializes best online with people playing violent video games, and that alone speaks volumes about your real world interactions.That, and spreading grampa Pat's video as an informed opinion on Brexit. Your opinions on these real world matters are worth less than fortune cookies messages. At least I can eat the cookies.

 

Virus stated: source post

These tensions didn't pop up over night... this has been a long fought battle of the Establishments part.  And not all their attempts to divide have been successful.  Push here, pull there... white vs black, straight vs gay, soccer vs football, dem vs rep, coke vs pepsi, lib vs conservative... They wait and see what takes effect with the over all mission being division of the masses.  Islam vs Christian vs Jew vs Hindu vs everyone!  How have they pushed and pulled?

I wanted to reply to this but 90% of what I had to say was said by Systematic. These sorts of divisions are natural in current society, they happen everywhere, not only in the USA, and not only in recent history. We've been groups and tribes since not that long ago. People are still having a big trouble giving that up.

 

Virus stated: source post

Dividing people is easy.  Making them feel that what divides them is worth dying and or killing for is a little bit more difficult, but with constant  reinforcement there IS an us and them and YOU are what is important and THEY are not worth anything... well, it's so easy to step on a bug, isn't it?

Haha well put.

 

Systematic stated: source post

I mean, its possible a group of wealthy elite could manipulate the human race.....but, those members are also subject to human nature as well. They'd compete and all try to gain power in some way. All it'd take is one person to slip up and try to expose another for this elaborate plan to become undone. Internal conflict and competition is our greatest crutch and safety measure honestly. We'll never get along, but this also means we'll never be subjugated underneath one ruling power.  It's crab mentality at it's finest

The idea of this mass conspiracy doesn't work for me for these reasons as well. No way a group of people leading the world can agree on everything and act this smoothly. Put 4 people in a room to talk politics they will have different views, opinions, ambitions. No way the secret survived for this long either.

Unless, ofc, the elite are not humans XD

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3 of the five men who started the CFR I have done some research into; Edward House and the two Dulles Brothers (these two were amazing!).  The frame work for such a massive international organization was birthed in a hotel in Paris in 1919 as the Treaty of Versailles was taking place.  The Dulles boys were young men in their 20's accompanying their Uncle who happened to be the Secretary of State at the time and "Colonel" House was Woodrow Wilson's right hand "fixer".  The older Dulles would become Secretary of State as well, and his younger brother would be the director of the CIA.. both during the world development periods of WWII and afterwards.  "Colonel" House had written a book in 1912 titled "Philip Dru: Administrator" in his book he talks of developing a one world government in a Karl Marx like fashion.  It was fiction, but... he described a conspiracy (a word he used) which succeeds in electing a US President by means of deception to the candidates' true opinions and intentions.  The conspiracy was to initiate at the party primaries so no real choice is given to the American public.  This has been done on more than one occasion (*LOL!) and is no being done in blatant thumbing of the publics nose.  The CFR owns the White House and the State Department.

Now a little extra tid bit of proof... a little exert from State Department Publication 2349, Report to the President on the Results of the [CFR] San Francisco Conference:

"With the outbreak of war in Europe it was clear that the United States would be confronted, after the war, with new and exceptional problems... Accordingly, a Committee on Post-War Problems was set up before the of 1939 at the suggestion of the Council on Foreign Relation.  The Committee consisted of high officials of the State Depart of whom all but one were [CFR] members.  It was assisted by a research staff provided by, financed by, and directed by the [CFR], which in February 1941 was organized into a Division of Special Research."

The information is out there, but it is circles within circles, and the "truth" I would think never gets written down... I wouldn't write secret shit down, just me... at some point, whether conspiracies, religion, or even science you have to have a little faith I guess. 

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"All it'd take is one person to slip up and try to expose another for this elaborate plan to become undone. Internal conflict and competition is our greatest crutch and safety measure honestly."

LOL!  Happens all the time!  And dudes go missing all the time... or die at the age of 50 due to a "rare" liver disease.  The Group eat their own too... "King of the Mountain" BABY!

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'Unless, ofc, the elite are not humans XD"

LOL, need Tony's input here. 

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Edvard stated: source post

You're stereotyping right now because you can't see past the limited picture you have etched in your head. Yes you can talk about tolerance without involving race and origins you moron. Say kids should get along with kids, not white kids should get along with black kids. Tolerance is not limited to race, origin, religion. Just focus on the factors that are common and relateable instead of the factors that are different.

When tolerance is outside of things that someone can't control, then you are a fucking push over to tolerate it.

PS. What i said was not stereotyping, it was telling you that you can't talk about tolerance if you don't talk about race/ethnicity. That is not stereotyping, this is telling you what you can and can't do in explaining an ideology. I don't even understand if your brain is capable of processing anything at all. what the fucking fuck are you talking about? You make no sense whatsoever.

What a fucking moron you are Meta, go reread my post. I stated as clearly as possible that NOT focusing on these sort of differences is the solution. They should be cut out from everything that is news or education. No race or origins, but focus on the real factors relevant to each situation that is discussed. You are the one bitching that nationality or skin color is being "censored" you fucking turd. You are the one bitching that people making a big deal out of race/origins/religion are censored and should be granted "free speech". Stop contradicting yourself you cognitive dissonant immature schizoid. You sound like you have no clear vision or position on what you want, complete confusion. You sound like you are just making shit up or adapting your shit as more posts are made on this issue.

When you do not focus on them, how are you going to tell people to be tolerant to people of other races? Lol.
People were already focused on what matters, this is why we have laws that address crimes...

Good lord you are a fucking moron. When you censor fucking racist slurs, you are focusing on them. The way things work is that when someone is racist, you just ignore him and dismiss him, not the fucking opposite. And then when you censor one racist slur you can make an excuse to censor a sensible argument that was not racist by saying it is. And then you get racists people getting power because they point at this censorship as a talking point for their own racism. And because the other side keeps censoring real points based on imaginary racism, people turn to the racists, since they are the only people who make sense at that point.

Do you fucking get it? Is your brain processing this? Are there sparkles in your head yet?

Pathetic. If you don't fucking get something, don't talk bullshit. There is a fucking reason why free-speech should be 100% fucking free.

Today I wore a traditional batik shirt I bought from Bali, trained in a martial art from Thailand, listened to Spanish music, talked to this cute Slovakian girl I'm considering dating and ate Lebanese food. Goodluck guarding your culture bud, but I bet you are wearing jeans as opposed to benevretsi or nogavitsi and are listening to neue deutsche härte. Do you even listen to your traditional Bulgarian music, respect your traditional customs, practice Orthodoxy? Do you kiss dead saints remains Meta, like a good faithful Bulgarian? Hold onto your diluted "culture" and scream like a bitch as it is keeps getting changed by unstoppable forces.

You are as stupid as a fucking dog.
Suck my cock bitch. I wont even respond to such retarded garbage. I mean you are so far off the fucking point, you are so fucking deep in your own jizz that you spew when you are on your moral high ground that you can't even understand what i am talking about for weeks you fucking imbecile.

Die in a fire.

The only "prejudice" I have shown in this topic is against people not being able to see past race, origins, religion, and keep lumping people together. I have never said any category of people is "GOOD/NICE" or "BAD" since I believe that is immature lazy thinking of someone who lacks nuance and probably believes grandpa Pat's videos on YT are good sources for forming an opinion.

That is actually prejudice that you should not have, you stupid motherfucker.

Oh i am fucking sorry if you don't like the words "Good, bad, nice". If you fucking want to know what those mean, then i can make you a fucking summary.

Good: People who do not act like fucking assholes and respect other people and their space and do not hold values that agree with any of the mentioned things

Bad: People who act like fucking assholes, don't respect their space and hold values that agree with any of the mentioned things. Like 75% of the muslim world. They think its ok to kill people, rape people, bomb schools, hang the gays, etc.

What do you know, I was right. Thinking in terms of NICE and GOOD lmao.

Every religion has fanatics and I'm against them being encouraged in any way. I'm firmly against sharia law in civilized countries. Moderate muslims are not a threat, and efforts should be made to "moderate" as many muslims as possible in non muslim countries. Not allowing sharia law courts is a good way to start, as there should be a common law for all citizens. Not allowing the more extreme burka wear that makes women look like pacman ghosts is a good start. Personally I do support these measures.

What should be done is seeing the problem first. Something you can't see from your own moral semen on your eyes. Only once you identify the problem you can conjure up a solution. Not allowing burkas btw is stupid and i am against that. But you wouldn't think this, because i wont fit in your little prejudiced box now would i? You would think this is a contradiction, when in fact i never said anything about this before. You are a fucking moron that only assumes.

You're not right, you're a fucking dumbass on real life issues. You're an introverted schizoid who socializes best online with people playing violent video games, and that alone speaks volumes about your real world interactions.That, and spreading grampa Pat's video as an informed opinion on Brexit. Your opinions on these real world matters are worth less than fortune cookies messages. At least I can eat the cookies.

And here we can see the prejudice and the moral high ground Edvard stands upon.
Please tell me what i feel and think again Edvard. I have been examining you for sometime before i did and now i have the evidence for it. Its in this very post.
Like always. I am right.

 

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I had time and i felt good, so finally a proper response by me.

You might think i don't like you btw, but i do like you Edvard. Even if you are a fucking moron when its about politics and even if you are the moral crusader of SC.

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Eddie's Dissonance

He can't do conflict of reality and delusion at the same time. 

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   America is first on His list of "Don'ts".

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

When tolerance is outside of things that someone can't control, then you are a fucking push over to tolerate it.

The fuck does this even mean. Express yourself more clearly.

 

PS. What i said was not stereotyping, it was telling you that you can't talk about tolerance if you don't talk about race/ethnicity.

Yeah you can, open that fucking mind piss-for-brain. You stereotyped my point automatically by thinking of how "tolerance campaign" has been done until now. I don't think instilling values of acceptance and cooperation into people means talking about the differences, but talking about things in common. I see no need for the differences to be pointed out at all.

 

That is not stereotyping, this is telling you what you can and can't do in explaining an ideology.

You're the one who needs to listen, bubble schizo. You've lost all credibility about understanding how things work in politics and society after linking grandpa Pat's video.

 

When you do not focus on them, how are you going to tell people to be tolerant to people of other races? Lol.

It's not telling people to be tolerant of other races but telling people to be tolerant about other people, fucktard. The labels of race, religion, sexuality need to be made as meaningless as possible since they carry a huge baggage of prejudice and bias. Simple minds like you need to be taught to look beyond this shit when they look at people, but focus on what really matters: each individual's merits, personality, talents, flaws, deeds. The entire lumping people together based on labels is dumb as hell, how you can't see it amazes me. It needs to be weeded out as much as possible, and ofc it would take centuries of education for that, until it reaches the thick skulls of so many tards in society.

 

Good lord you are a fucking moron. When you censor fucking racist slurs, you are focusing on them. The way things work is that when someone is racist, you just ignore him and dismiss him, not the fucking opposite.

Such bullshit. By this logic, if ISIS starts filling the media with their beliefs and incite people to join their cause we should just fucking ignore them? Because of freedom of speech or not to draw attention to them? What an idiot you are. They are the ones who draw attention to themselves. Racist talk draws attention to racist talk. The Dallas shooter liked a FB page of a group openly encouraging violence and hate towards cops, with fucking pictures of armed black people all over the place. "Take up arms and give them what they deserve" and what do you know, someone acted on this. Why was that group allowed to function and inspire? 

 

And then when you censor one racist slur you can make an excuse to censor a sensible argument that was not racist by saying it is. And then you get racists people getting power because they point at this censorship as a talking point for their own racism. And because the other side keeps censoring real points based on imaginary racism, people turn to the racists, since they are the only people who make sense at that point.

Racial hate talk should be more than censored. They should be punished like any crime. Fines, whatever. Your argument could be applied to all the fucking criminals. "Punishing criminals gets them power and gives them talking point for their own crimes." The fuck? 

 

Do you fucking get it? Is your brain processing this? Are there sparkles in your head yet?

Pathetic. If you don't fucking get something, don't talk bullshit. There is a fucking reason why free-speech should be 100% fucking free.

I think it's time for people to take responsibility for what they are saying. They think they are entitled to say anything with 0 consequences, but there are consequences to what they are saying, and they need to understand them. They need to be responsibilized(?) via education and knowledge that they CAN be held responsible by society. Same as with any crime.

When that NRA guy was asked "why do you have loaded rifles in your house?" his answer was simply: "because it's my right". Well, him having that right is what's wrong.

 

You are as stupid as a fucking dog.
Suck my cock bitch. I wont even respond to such retarded garbage. I mean you are so far off the fucking point, you are so fucking deep in your own jizz that you spew when you are on your moral high ground that you can't even understand what i am talking about for weeks you fucking imbecile.

Die in a fire.

Your reaction is telling. I hit a nerve because you have no way to defend your fucking anti-cultururalmix drivel. You talk about "culture" as a static thing like an idiot, while it's forever changing and borrowing elements from other cultures, which in turn borrow elements from yours. I'm not saying it's an all good thing and I regret that some aspects of the past societies are being lost, but no fence or bitching or hate against other cultures is going to stop this. The best thing that can be done is identify the truly harmful elements of a culture (women oppression, sharia punishments) and target them specifically, guiding them patiently towards change.

 

The only "prejudice" I have shown in this topic is against people not being able to see past race, origins, religion, and keep lumping people together.

That is actually prejudice that you should not have, you stupid motherfucker.

What a fucking broken mentality you have Meta.

 

Bad: People who act like fucking assholes, don't respect their space and hold values that agree with any of the mentioned things. Like 75% of the muslim world. They think its ok to kill people, rape people, bomb schools, hang the gays, etc.

Simple minded moron you are. Do you really see shit in black and white like this or are you genuinely trying to sound like a retarded 12 yo.

If you have a problem with how muslims "THINK" and believe it's toxic and they should be acted agaisnt for it, why all that crap about "freedom of speech" and "letting people say whatever they THINK?" Transparent biased cherry picking. This should be applied to all and all toxic mentalities blamed and corrected by society. In my experience I hear fewer muslims openly hating on western culture, encouraging to hang gays and bombing schools, than I read ignorant hateful shit said about them. Just on this site alone we have what, at least 5 people who declared themselves "anti-islamic" and openly engage in islam or racist bashing. Read some FB and YT comments these days and be repelled by some people's mentality. One small example, I watched this video the other day and read the comments there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mav2kkvakGY.

 

What should be done is seeing the problem first. Something you can't see from your own moral semen on your eyes. Only once you identify the problem you can conjure up a solution. Not allowing burkas btw is stupid and i am against that. But you wouldn't think this, because i wont fit in your little prejudiced box now would i? You would think this is a contradiction, when in fact i never said anything about this before. You are a fucking moron that only assumes.

I can't take anything you say seriously when you talk about morals as a bad thing. Fuck off in medieval edgyland pal. 

You have failed to give any clear statement on the "problem" so far. You are confused, pussyfooting around expressing a definite, unitary stance, and can't express yourself better than a 10 yo writing homework.

 

You might think i don't like you btw, but i do like you Edvard. Even if you are a fucking moron when its about politics and even if you are the moral crusader of SC.

I like you too, buddy. You're quite cool in all the other matters.

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