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"What I did come to get was for you to understand why you were being confronted by forum members and how your actions in this fiasco were supporting and enabling luna, regardless of your intent."

You only repeated what others have said. I can understand English enough to get it the first time. I said what was in my mind then, which is what I still believe to this moment. Luna wasn't at all encouraged to fuck up the place by anything I said, but by those pushing her buttons.

"By saying users like yourself, Xena and Dex prolonged what could've been a short burnout?"

Yeah.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

YOU ARE GOING TO THE MOON? YOU CAN'T EVEN HANDLE A DISAGREEMENT!

LOL

"you may have done that AFTER the banning and modding (as i did mention before, when your posts were edited) but when luna first started changing people's names in the 'Happy Sept 11th!' thread, you encouraged her to 'play dirty' in terms of being a mod. "

I answered this in my reply to Crow.

"and let's not forget why you got mad at me. for lying to you, not for this 'risking the same shit again'. "

No, both reasons pissed me off. The latter had way worse consequences for the entire forum, so that was what pissed me off the most.

Edvard stated: source post

Well I can respect that. I did what I thought was best, you did what you thought was best. It turned out all of us got our way in the end.

I just want to point out that Inquirer is making the same points that we are about this situation, but Ed "respects his opinion".  Why?  Because Inquirer put it to him softly.  This argument is not about what happened.  It's about Ed's ego. : P

Edvard stated: source post

I never encouraged Luna to do anything, only tried to discourage her and prevent shit.

so then how do you respond to my previous points? you seem to have missed them so i'll repost:

you may have done that AFTER the banning and modding (as i did mention before, when your posts were edited) but when luna first started changing people's names in the 'Happy Sept 11th!' thread, you encouraged her to 'play dirty' in terms of being a mod.

and let's not forget why you got mad at me. for lying to you, not for this 'risking the same shit again'. you got mad cos you weren't the center of the joke, and you didn't have the inside info you pride yourself on. you were so fucking mad that something happened without your knowledge or contribution that you exposed the entire thing immediately.

Edvard stated: source post

"I could just as easily say your actions helped to enable and incite the entire incident in the first place."

Go for it, but you'd just sound stupid.

That's a risk I'm willing to take. : P

Whatever your intentions, you did enable her.  It takes very little prompting for Luna to feel justified.  The reason this whole ordeal got so out of hand, is because Dexter was there egging her on every step of the way.  And then you did it, and suddenly Turncoat gets demodded.  Then Xena and Rass do it, and everyone gets banned.  It's not hard to see Luna's patterns.  If your aim was not to inflame the situation, why didn't you just keep your mouth shut?

To make matters worse, you've been flouncing around blaming everyone but yourself, especially the people who have done the most for this forum.

And as for your theory that appeasing Luna is how to save the forum, if we're forced to censor ourselves, why the fuck are we even here?  What you were supporting would undermine everything about this place that makes it what it is.  Sometimes it's worth standing on principle, and this is one of those times.

If you still don't understand why you're being confronted, then there's nothing else I can say.

my gloating was after she had demodded TC, which in my eyes was already significant damage being done.

so you're making this your 'last' post so you can avoid answering how it could have possibly been 'provocative' of me to make such a joke even though i told luna it was a joke before she demodded him? you've avoided what i've asked from the start because you have nothing to back it up.

in conclusion: you pick and choose when it's inappropriate for anyone to encourage or provoke negative behavior from luna and hold others to your ever-changing standards. you got mad because you weren't in on the joke between dyn, tc and i, and now you're cowering in your answers and choosing only to respond to what you can defend.

Ok, last things I'm going to say about this.

"The reason this whole ordeal got so out of hand, is because Dexter was there egging her on every step of the way.  And then you did it, and suddenly Turncoat gets demodded.  "

I disagree. Luna lashes out when she doesn't feel supported, because her insecurities kick in. If you're saying me trying to get her to keep Turn and stop being butthurt at him enabled her to unmod Turncoat, then I'm wondering what personal problem you must have with me that makes you come up with this crap.

"Dexter was there egging her on every step of the way.  And then you did it, and suddenly Turncoat gets demodded.  Then Xena and Rass do it, and everyone gets banned.  It's not hard to see Luna's patterns."

Sure, lmao, all the people abusing and mocking her during that time had nothing to do with it. See what Sugar thinks about that, since she's so eager to take credit for the whole deal:

6:02
[Rasserenata] Rasserenata: Haha. Well, people just randomly started pissing Luna off and now there're a bunch of banned peeps.
5:10
[Rasserenata] Rasserenata: Lol, it was her after all who provoked all this.

Sugar: when she first changed my name, everyone got mad and criticized her till she left for a while then too
Sugar: i'm proud of myself
Sugar: she ended up demodding TC about it, causing friction. which i then capitalized on by pressing her tiny narc buttons
Sugar: and i broke the stupid bitch
Sugar: that's the whole point. i wanted to troll people
Sugar: none of this shit would have happened if it wasn't for me repair, don't you get it
Sugar: i had the idea to get dyn saying i was gonna be a mod
Sugar: we kicked luna off of her OWN forum ahaha

"blaming everyone but yourself, especially the people who have done the most for this forum."

I can think of only 2 people who have done more for this forum than I, and they are Luna (ironically) and Turncoat. Don't get cocky with me now.

"if we're forced to censor ourselves"

Jumping ahead of yourself again and trying to paint me in favor of things you KNOW I wouldn't accept. It's like you don't know me at all, Crow. I just didn't see Turn claiming to refuse a mod position as "us censoring ourselves". I believe everything could have stopped there, get it? You want me to do a drawing too to make things more clear? Know that I am shit at drawing.

"You only repeated what others have said. I can understand English enough to get it the first time."

And yet you're still going in circles despite every point being made, it's why I chimed in on the topic in the first place.

"Luna wasn't at all encouraged to fuck up the place by anything I said, but by those pushing her buttons."

Are you denying your words weren't enabling her behavior? Shifting blame, saying you hold TC responsible for all this? Mentioning how you can't help but see her irrational/triggered point of view?  Going on about how Luna would be generous to let TC back? You don't at all see how what you said was supportive or even comforting Luna with her decisions?

Systematic stated: source post

"You're ether stupid or playing stupid at this point then, Syst. I suspect the latter."

At least the feeling's mutual.

Edvard stated: source post

"you may have done that AFTER the banning and modding (as i did mention before, when your posts were edited) but when luna first started changing people's names in the 'Happy Sept 11th!' thread, you encouraged her to 'play dirty' in terms of being a mod. "

I answered this in my reply to Crow.

"and let's not forget why you got mad at me. for lying to you, not for this 'risking the same shit again'. "

No, both reasons pissed me off. The latter had way worse consequences for the entire forum, so that was what pissed me off the most.

i can't see the part where you explained why you encouraged her to abuse her mod power in the 'Happy sept 11th' thread. and bullshit lol, you were so mad that i didn't answer you truthfully. you posting the whole joke for everyone to see was the equivalent of a bratty kid smashing another kids' toy cos he had a better one. 'if i can't enjoy this, no one will'

you're also conveniently missing the point that i told luna this whole thing was a joke so she wouldn't demod TC, so how am i responsible for her being a retarded dictator about it?