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by thesugargirl

how did people know though? who told all these people?

also, regarding your claim that you developed a big ego as a result of being successful, this could well be the case, but look at reaper. a great example of a delusional narcissist who is a complete failure. it's not always due to success that large egos are born, although they can help to get there.

it's looking more likely that you did the thing..i mean you were stalking this chick for 4 (or more) years, doesn't really strike me as the actions of a normal heartbroken ex that was done wrong..

by Systematic

Like I said before, whether it was true or not the suspicion itself was enough to have people she knew not associate with her.

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I said it was probably not your case, I'd imagine a stalker would be more likely to listen to gather information. I was mostly trying to debunk the idea that 400+ daily texts means you know a person.

You didn't debunk it. In your example the target is clearly uninterested and wouldn't keep this shit going with 400 texts/day for...2 years?

Plust, I wasn't talking in general as much as I was refering to the topic...systematic and his target's relationship. Those 2 grew up together, didn't you read that. The rest of systematic's description of his relationship with the girl doesn't fit with your chat sample either. There's no way he doesn't know her inside out. I can't imagine how he's not bored tbh.

i think the relationship is largely imagined on his part. his story makes perfect sense if you consider the fact that he probably did something stalkerish and it freaked the girl out so she left her job and ended friendships that were connected to him. he seems to believe there was a deep connection, but the thought of him following her around and watching her sleep without her knowledge makes it seem shallow or non-existant to her.

he reminds me of a guy i used to date, who acted narc psycho, and when i ended things he stalked me. i know he thought the same deluded things this one did, he did nothing wrong, i played with his heart etc. dude really wouldn't leave me alone till i scared him away

"In your example the target is clearly uninterested and wouldn't keep this shit going with 400 texts/day for...2 years?"
Strangely, I've seen it happen a lot (with texting and IMs anyway).

"Those 2 grew up together, didn't you read that."
I did, but that doesn't really tell us anything about their relationship, we only know how he sees it. We already know he invented part of who she was, what's to say the 400+ texts bit isn't a case of rewriting how he remembers things, if not attaching meaning where there isn't any? What he saw as in depth and personal could be the sort of stuff she tells anyone.

I've grown up alongside people too, had in depth conversations late at night and everything, but as much as we've talked a lot, they don't really "know" me, and in some fashions I likely don't fully know them either. Duration doesn't really denote a connection, and he's already admitted to portions of her as he once knew her being the byproduct of fabrication. "Inside and Out" I'm skeptical to believe.

"The rest of systematic's description of his relationship with the girl doesn't fit with your chat sample either."
I'll bold the part that says I doubt that chat was his case, this is the second time this has been mistaken as a direct example instead of an example of how 400+ daily texts can contain either nothing or only one side.

"There's no way he doesn't know her inside out."
We only know his side. Meeting her could show us an entirely different picture than his portrayal. Come on, this is the perspective of a stalker, and while I can't say whether he is delusional or not, I've known quite a few, and their views typically did not match up with real life.

I think this whole relationship has been made up in your head. If you were ever so close and she were so much like you- you'd be able to have something real without so many head issues. What you two had in the past was narcissism feeding on each other. 500+ texts? Healthy people don't consume each other like that. Addicts do. A narcissistic relationship is not sustainable because 1. it is not based in reality and 2. neither party will ever be interested in the other as a seperate human being with a seperate identity, feelings, and needs. Narcissism is not interested in the other. Only self. You will never have this ideal girl- this ideal love- she does not exist. That is the real reason no one else will do. They cannot mirror you back to you the way she could in the beginning. You fell in love with yourself - not her. And you will never have something more than just yourself until you find a way to break down the narcissism preventing you from doing so.

"500+ texts? Healthy people don't consume each other like that. Addicts do."
One of my relationships had about that much IMing/Texting, and it wasn't really a problem (other things were, just not that). If it's mutual from both sides (meaning both sides are texting), I see it more like an emotionless/toneless phone call that takes ten times longer to accomplish.

"You fell in love with yourself - not her."
Interesting, he did say the two supposedly had a lot in common.

No offense Turn- but I don't see you or anyone else here for that matter- as a healthy person. You're pretty self absorbed. You have quite a unique way of showing your narcissism, but underneath it all- the mechanics are still the same.

eghh.

If that's true I'm fucked I guess. I need to find out what she'd think about all this.

I'm tired of this stalker business anyways, it's starting to envelope my personality. I'm so much more than that. I'll call her up sometime soon, let her know how much I actually watch and care for her. Hopefully, get a new perspective from her. I'll record the call and post it here.

Do not post something so intimate here without her consent to do so. What would be your reason for doing so? And do you think her perspective is any less clouded by narcissism than yours? How much do either of you even know about narcissism, how it works, and how to see it clearly in the dynamics of a.relationship? How much research have you done?