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It's nearly impossible to have a conversation with you. You say in your OP that disorders are called disorders for a reason, then you say you don't consider yourself disordered. You say in your OP that disorders such as AsPD are a weakness and a defense mechanism, so I wonder exactly what rationalization you have to not view it as a weakness in yourself.

I relate to a bit of what you said, more when I think about how I was when I was younger. Maybe I'm lucky that I was raised in a healthy environment and never developed a fetish for violence. To answer your question in your OP, I don't consider myself disordered. I don't see the point in doing so. If you want to use the concept to analyze yourself and work on developing strengths and fighting weaknesses, I'm sure it could be useful. If you just want to cling to it as a form of self-identity then I think it's useless.

For the record, when I say self-identity I don't mean self-diagnosis, I mean you've internalized the concept to the extent that you will use it to describe yourself to others. And I disagree with the idea that you don't learn from your mistakes. You say that when a certain method doesn't give you the results you want, you try a different method. That's learning. So whatever else you want to say about yourself, you are capable of adaptation.

I'm sure you're not interested in my advice, and our personal tastes are different enough that anything I say would probably seem irrelevant to you, and more to the point, I don't want to encourage your twisted goals and aspirations. I just don't understand why someone who hates authority so much would want to cling to what a psychiatrist told them. Maybe it's just my contrary streak. Whatever. Enjoy your diagnosis and may it serve you well.

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It's nearly impossible to have a conversation with you. You say in your OP that disorders are called disorders for a reason, then you say you don't consider yourself disordered.

I'm aware that I'm disordered in comparison to the average person, according to society and the mental health system. What I mean is, the way I am is 'normal' to me because I've always been this way. I don't personally see myself as 'disordered'.

You say in your OP that disorders such as AsPD are a weakness and a defense mechanism, so I wonder exactly what rationalization you have to not view it as a weakness in yourself.

Every personality disorder is a weakness because it uses defense mechanisms. It's affect on me would be considered a weakness too I suppose, considering the negative impact it's had on my life.

I don't consider myself disordered. I don't see the point in doing so.

That's exactly my view. Realistically though, if a disorder is negatively impacting your life, then you are technically disordered.

If you want to use the concept to analyze yourself and work on developing strengths and fighting weaknesses, I'm sure it could be useful. If you just want to cling to it as a form of self-identity then I think it's useless.

For the record, when I say self-identity I don't mean self-diagnosis, I mean you've internalized the concept to the extent that you will use it to describe yourself to others.

I don't understand what you mean by using it to describe myself to others. My personality disorders affect how I think and behave and that is reflected at times on the forum, but that's just the disorders talking. People seem to forget that I've noticed.

 And I disagree with the idea that you don't learn from your mistakes. You say that when a certain method doesn't give you the results you want, you try a different method. That's learning. So whatever else you want to say about yourself, you are capable of adaptation.

What I mean by repeating the same mistakes is that I will do something again even though I got caught for doing it previously. I may do it a different way, but according to some people, the action itself would still be considered a mistake because what I'm doing obviously wasn't acceptable to begin with.

For example: Imagine I vandalized a building. I got caught and got punished for it because vandalism is considered wrong by law. I then decide the law can't tell me what to do, so I go an vandalize another building in a different area. Somehow, I get caught again, but that doesn't stop me, so I do it again in another area that I think is safer to vandalize in without getting caught.

I may have adapted by trying to find ways to not get caught again, but I'm still repeating the behavior that got me into trouble initially.

I just don't understand why someone who hates authority so much would want to cling to what a psychiatrist told them.

You think I'm clinging to what my psych told me, but that's not the case at all. It's being called delusional that I have issue with. It has nothing to do with my diagnosis as such. Call me delusional over anything and you'll get the same reaction, because that just makes me sound crazy and I know I'm not, and people who know me in real life know I'm not.

When people think you're crazy, no-one takes anything you say seriously, which makes it harder to have decent conversations.

Even the guy who came up with the DSM had to admit:

"There is no definition of a mental disorder. It's bullshit. I mean, you just can't define it..." - Allen Frances.

But that won't stop them from milking the suckers. I might as well go and sell hugs on a street corner.

I'm aware that I'm disordered in comparison to the average person,
according to society and the mental health system. What I mean is, the
way I am is 'normal' to me because I've always been this way. I don't
personally see myself as 'disordered'.

Is this relevant to your goals in life, and if so, in what way?

Every personality disorder is a weakness because it uses defense
mechanisms. It's affect on me would be considered a weakness too I
suppose, considering the negative impact it's had on my life.

Do you want to change this, or do you just want to ponder it? Not being sarcastic.

That's exactly my view. Realistically though, if a disorder is
negatively impacting your life, then you are technically disordered.

If you name a personality disorder, I can find a trait of it that I have that negatively impacts my life. Or a trait I once had that I changed. Or a trait that a theoretical therapist would call disordered that I genuinely prefer over the alternative. I prefer to focus on solutions rather than problems.

What I mean by repeating the same mistakes is that I will do
something again even though I got caught for doing it previously. I may
do it a different way, but according to some people, the action itself
would still be considered a mistake because what I'm doing obviously
wasn't acceptable to begin with.For example: Imagine I vandalized
a building. I got caught and got punished for it because vandalism is
considered wrong by law. I then decide the law can't tell me what to do,
so I go an vandalize another building in a different area. Somehow, I
get caught again, but that doesn't stop me, so I do it again in another
area that I think is safer to vandalize in without getting caught.I
may have adapted by trying to find ways to not get caught again, but
I'm still repeating the behavior that got me into trouble initially.

I understand this concept. Self destructive behavior and all that. No advice here, just empathy or whatever. And fight it, if that's what you want to do.

You think I'm clinging to what my psych told me, but that's not the case
at all. It's being called delusional that I have issue with. It has
nothing to do with my diagnosis as such. Call me delusional over
anything and you'll get the same reaction, because that just makes me
sound crazy and I know I'm not, and people who know me in real life know
I'm not.

I don't think you're delusional. I don't think you're lying about having been diagnosed with personality disorders. I just don't understand why it matters so much to you that people believe you about it.

When people think you're crazy, no-one takes anything you say seriously, which makes it harder to have decent conversations.

You started this topic to point out that you exhibit the traits of a personality disorder. In my eyes, your OP was trying to demonstrate that you are crazy, in the sense that you're disordered/mentally ill/whatever, and now you try to complain that people view you that way?

I don't find it hard to have a conversation with you because you have a disorder, I find it hard to have a conversation with you because it's hard for my logic to follow your logic.