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The "willing" and "ignorant" in the case of deception must be relative then to the one attempting to be deceptive. No one is immune to it, simply resistant at best. With the right effort, one can be turned "willing" or "ignorant".

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Your reply is redundant.

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The way you phrased it made it sound as if you thought something along the lines of "only the mentally weak fall for tricks", when really, it can be anyone.

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There's no such thing as weak or strong, only weaker and stronger.

And believing tricks isn't the same thing as having trust.

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Falling for a trick means trusting them enough to fall it in the first place, even if that trust is simply from lack of evidence to the contrary (Magicians for example). Someone who doesn't play along who still falls for a trick does so either because they slip somewhere, or because they trusted they'd be safe by not trusting them (such as reverse psychology).

Trust plays into it regardless of how you look at it, the question is simply what they are trusting.

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Fair point.

Real trust is when you see through the lies and don't care.

I'm not entirely sure what that means but it sounds deep, right?

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As it applies to subject of trust your assumption of my statements are entirely true. Most deception involving trust requires not only that the subject be lied to, but to also lie to themselves.

You were muddying the waters. Of course, someone can not trust someone an still be deceived but it is much more of a rarity and it will not be a sustained or multiple events and no trust can be broken

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Real trust is truly see someone and expecting the choices that would come natural to them, not how you believe they should or would behave. 

Acceptance is at times just as well as trust.

Ignorance usually leads to broken trust.

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Exactly.  That's why I prefer not to lie.  Lies can break, truth can't.

The easiest way to trust other people is to trust yourself.  If you're wrong, you're wrong.

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by L_Cranston

Deception only works on the willing and ignorant. You overestimate your abilities.

This is not about me, so don't make it fucking personal. Though, I can say with all certainty that you have no idea what my capabilities are. And there are plenty of ignorant people in the world. Just look at you.

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