Something tells me you so not have a good understanding of empirical science.
My laws are the right laws. The universe is a physical place and the only meaning it can have is what we give it. I prefer to look the truth in the eyes and not kid myself to make myself feel better.
Any argument or explanation based on feelings is irrelevant to me.
Hi Emily
Nice to meet you. You need to look at this logically, if there is no Hell or Heaven then that's it, just like going to sleep without dreaming. Win. However if there is Heaven and Hell, well that's good too. If you've been "Good" you end up with all your friends and family in Heaven. Win. If you've been "Evil" you end up in Hell with a whole bunch of really bad people you can do whatever you want to without feeling bad about it. Win.
See how easy it is to be positive?
Hope this helps.
parker
I don't believe in hell because it's such a joke and there's absolutely no tangible evidence to say otherwise. It just seems to illogical. I mean really, can you envision a hell with animals? don't they have a moral voice too?
No, I can't see orcas jumping majestically through some lava beds 2k miles underground. sorry.
by AidanI mean really, can you envision a hell with animals? don't they have a moral voice too?
Animals don't have a moral voice at all. They live by instinct, not a moral conscience, lol.
Christ, some of you fucking idiots amaze me here.
You think dogs don't have any moral conscience? It doesn't have to be in the same language as ours for it to be a moral one...
How often do you see a dog helping out a random stranger? Maybe not often in person, due to the odds of being present, but hearing about it? Quite often.
But were they themselves in danger? No, they weren't. How do you know if they are incapable or not? I haven't done my research, so I'm basing my judgement off of patterns and assumptions at this point in time.
Also, I've seen plenty of times where a dog feels guilty. How could they feel guilt if they didn't know they had done something ethically wrong, rather than right?
Nevermind TK, I guess we're both not quite right on this one.
Smithsonian:
NAME: The domestic dog, Canis familiaris
LOOKS: Guilty (e.g., avoids eye contact, drops its tail, lies down, rolls onto its back, slinks off).
THINKS: Who knows? But a dog’s guilty look is a reaction not to whatever the dog did, but to its owner’s scolding, according to a study by psychologist Alexandra Horowitz of Barnard College. One telltale bit of data: dogs gave the guilty look when their owners mistakenly thought the dogs had eaten a forbidden treat, even when the dogs were completely innocent. More study – a lot more – is required to establish whether or not dogs have a conscience.
by AidanBut were they themselves in danger? No, they weren't. How do you know if they are incapable or not? I haven't done my research, so I'm basing my judgement off of patterns and assumptions at this point in time.
Dogs react instinctively or how they are trained to react. Do you honestly think a dog rushes to rescue someone because it's thought about it beforehand and decided it's the 'right' thing to do? Of course not, because dog's aren't aware of society's morals and laws. They don't have a moral compass that they live by and that is essentially what a conscience is.
In my opinion, I believe the dog that rescues someone is reacting instinctively to the person's fear response. Dogs naturally protect their territory, their puppies and their own pack, so it's not too hard to imagine why some may protect humans as well, especially if they view them as part of the pack.
Also, I've seen plenty of times where a dog feels guilty. How could they feel guilt if they didn't know they had done something ethically wrong, rather than right?
Dogs can sense negative energy. It's the negative energy from their owner that causes their reaction, not the thought that they did something wrong.