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thrill

"Why would someone think I want her to carry out any of these things? Sigh."

It's the less expected outcome. As much as it'd be a shame when/if it actually happens, it'd elicit a larger response from the audience here than doing nothing.

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I'm not pointing out the fact that she's online as negative. I'm point out that insulting rape victims or victims of sexual assault as a means to get out whatever pent up aggression is negative. Energy exists there that wants to do violent things (more violent than what she has already done or does) and instead of channeling it in any other method she decided to go after that? This is why I said handicapped kids would be next. It's desperate. 

 

Ana if anyone was stuck, I was stuck trying to figure out how to sell solutions to a political media that only wants to bark about problems. That's where I was when I came back here. Working out ideas on two others sites, Well maybe TK can help me toughen up and bark at people to get these solutions going. And maybe these ideas I have collected can help TK get some creative program or business going, something to get her and her daughter to a better place. So this isn't stuck but using this forum to find out how to get everyone unstuck.

This. I don't even know what this has to do with anything. 

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thrill

"lol, is that your idea of revenge? making someone feel guilty for trying to kill you? HAHAHAHA"

You seem to be confused about what constitutes revenge. I wasn't trying to seek revenge. I was simply trying to save my own ass, which obviously worked very effectively since he actually turned himself in.

 

"calm and rational before during and after the attack? how about enraged? i'd be really hesitant to fuck with you because you stay completely calm about it.

i think what you were going for was 'i appeared calm and rational but inside i was furious, bloodthirsty'"

No, I wasn't enraged. In fact, I felt neutral. That's why I was calm before, during and after the attack. I didn't really know what to think. He was accusing me of things that hadn't happened because somebody, who didn't like me, had fed him false information. He thought I had been cheating on him, when in actual fact, I hadn't.

The attack didn't bother me half as much as the phone call I made to my mother the next day when I rang her to tell her what had happened and that I needed to move back home.

My mother didn't want me back there. I knew that because it was her idea I move back with my ex when I was still pregnant, even though she knew he was potentially violent. She reluctantly allowed me to move back home though (for awhile at least) because my daughter and I had no-where else to go and I wasn't going to stay with my daughter's father after he'd tried to kill me.

Instead of my mother asking me why my daughter's father had tried to kill me, she automatically blamed me for the attack. She told me that I probably provoked him. My mother knows I provoke people and I'm guessing that's why she assumed I was at fault, but I would have thought she'd ask me what actually happened before jumping to conclusions.

I wasn't angry until that phone call.

 

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thrill

 so you manipulated him into not killing you?

and if she knows you provoke people, why wouldn't she wonder if you were asking for it? from the way you behave here i'd venture a guess that you probably needed to be put in your place.

and how dare you be angry at your mother for being irritable about taking back an adult into her house and dealing with your relationship bull? you were stupid enough to get knocked up by someone you didn't have a stable relationship with, so deal with the consequences. furthermore, you of all people should understand why a mother would shirk her responsibilities to their child: "I could say the birth of my daughter changed me to some degree, but the truth is, she only made me realize how much I truly hate responsibility."

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thrill

I used whatever I thought I could use to save myself - violence (physically fighting back) and manipulation. In the end, I effectively turned him into the victim.

I understand why my mother thought I may have provoked him, but I would have thought she'd ask me first what actually happened before jumping to any conclusions. It's not as though I go around provoking people all the time. The fact that my daughter's father became physically violent for the first (and last) time towards me is probably what made my mother assume I had caused it.

I wasn't angry at the fact that my mother had to take me back. I could understand her reluctance, considering we argue alot (or used to, anyway). I was just angry that she didn't bother to ask me why I had been attacked, before deciding who was at fault. My daughter's father was an ex con and he looked like one (hard face, tattoos and shaved head). So, it's not as though she had less reason to blame him.

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thrill

 yes, but she was only hearing one side of the story. and she probably knows you well enough to put the pieces together. you wanted to be the victim here, but no one cares enough about you for you to play the part.

and you probably did provoke him. are you telling me your actions toward him were in no way malicious? and if they were, who are you to tell him where to draw the line? you also say that this was the first and last time he was violent, so it's more than likely he doesn't usually resort to violence, but you pushed him too far, and he reacted. again, you're telling me he was an ex con but you decided to shack up with him and bring a child into this mess, and then you want mommy to support your ridiculously stupid actions and have a tantrum when that doesn't happen.

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thrill

lol, please don't put me in the same category as TK.

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thrill

I didn't want my mother thinking I was the victim, because as far as I'm concerned, I wasn't. I fought back that night and won. Feeling angry about something does not equal tantrum by the way. I didn't yell and scream at my mother for blaming me. I was calm, yet angry inside.

A girl I knew, who didn't like me, told my daughter's father malicious lies about me to make him angry at me. She provoked him. Not I. I hadn't done anything to deserve that. She was just a jealous, insecure bitch who was angry at me because she knew her boyfriend liked me and she didn't trust either of us.

 

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thrill

 lol, you're so stupid. so you bottle everything your whore mother does to you up inside and write lame fantasies? you're too busy trying to impress people to realise that you sound like a pussy who's too scared to say or do anything to those that try to harm it(you).

if this girl thought her boyfriend liked you, & she orchestrated this whole thing so that your boyfriend was so angry at you that he tried to kill you, then she won, not you. she turned your dude against you, and probably consoled him after he lost it with you. you were just cementing your position as a victim when you 'manipulated' him and then listened to your mother tell you that everything is your fault and you deserve it and you didn't even have the balls to stand up to her.

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thrill

No, I don't bottle everything up inside at all. I have no problem confronting people when I have an issue with them. Unlike you, I don't get all worked up over it and lock myself in the bathroom. I deal with it in a calm, rational manner.

The girl didn't win anything. Her intention was to see me get hurt, but that didn't happen the way she wanted it to because I fought back, and in the end, my daughter's father felt guilty enough to turn himself in. Do you think he would let her console him when he realized how much of a lying bitch she was? lol. No way.

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