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thrill

You should at least try to get the facts right before posting your bullshit. You got half that shit you posted wrong.

I'm amused that you're still pissed at me enough to try and attack me like that. I got to you good and proper, lol.

You know, it's a real pity you didn't get raped that night.

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thrill

what shit was wrong? it was mostly stuff you told me.

i guess the girl would have been disappointed that she was unable to execute her plan, but we had lots of fun anyway.

what did you do in response to your boyfriend becoming physical with you? call the police? cry to your parents-err..or  take it out on your daughter?

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thrill

Half of that shit is not what I told you at all, but you go ahead and believe what you want.

You made yourself a victim, sugar. I didn't. That's the difference between you and I.

 

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thrill

instead of repeating that half of the shit isn't what you told me, why not specify which parts are true/untrue?

so, you were a victim of circumstance? lol

again, what was your response to your boyfriend becoming physical? did you remain a victim and cower in the corner?

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I kicked the shit out of my boyfriend when he tried to strangle me to death one night (he never kicked me down any stairs, lol) and I kept kicking him until he stopped. That's when I saw an opportunity to manipulate him into feeling guilt, by telling him everything I knew he wanted to hear, which worked because he ended up calling the cops on himself. I know he called them because they told me he'd turned himself in.

I was calm and rational before, during and after the attack.

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thrill

 lol, is that your idea of revenge? making someone feel guilty for trying to kill you? HAHAHAHA

calm and rational before during and after the attack? how about enraged? i'd be really hesitant to fuck with you because you stay completely calm about it.

i think what you were going for was 'i appeared calm and rational but inside i was furious, bloodthirsty'

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thrill

Hi TK and Ana: I would much RATHER prefer people talk out their thoughts, real or symbolic, online. NOT carry them out and find out the hard way what they want or don't want in real life! Three guys shot to death a promising young man in Oklahoma to "find out what it would be like to kill someone." Whatever that was, could have been prevented. Even when people totally BS online, it is still projecting issues to "work them out," and better than bullying and beating up in real life. I've seen a lot of effective counseling online without having to meet.

And TK: you don't piss me off. If anything I get mad that billions are spent supporting criminals in prison kept from working, while women children and crime victims suffer the burdens, as well as law abiding citizens paying for it. If I get upset, I channel my compassion toward getting people out of that mess.

It's a bigger problem, and I relate to anyone affected by it. At least you are honest about what you do, and even where you are masking or projecting, you are clear about that also. I already had one person run away but you don't run.

I find that you shoot straight. I gave you a 4 on the transparency scale on my list, higher than me, because you are more at peace with where you are. I admit I'm not; I fluctuate when I have to talk out political or religious points with people from different angles (it gets messy). I don't make my points near consistent like you. Most ppl here I rated at 3.5 and I'm somewhere in between, depending on the context I'm addressing, which I'm not always at peace with.

I don't know what this competition is about to be the "biggest bitch." I thought that's mainly a territorial tactic for alpha males/females to bark each other down to mark their space. So we map out and respect each other's space?

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thrill

 

 There's a difference between assumptions and perception. What I state about you is true 9 times out of 10. Whoever there are so many examples of you assuming incorrectly that it would take me more time than I can dedicate to the project. You know this is true. How many times have you assumed someone was speaking to you in a thread? Or thought they were trying to pick a fight with you specifically when they weren't? 

So for the last time, to clarify what I said: You have not carried out the things you fantasize about in person. You have not held a family hostage and raped their children in front of them. You have not picked up a prostitute and killed her. Do I think you're violent or have violent tendencies? Yes. But have you done those things? No. But you explore them online because that's where they are stuck. I'm not commenting on this any further because there is no way to explain it so that you will understand. In all honesty you probably got what I was saying three posts back and just want more follow up because that is attention. 

 

Emily: Why would someone think I want her to carry out any of these things? Sigh. 

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thrill

Hi Sugar: thanks for bringing up this point. there is a big difference if people "see themselves" as a HERO for overcoming setbacks or as a VICTIM of the actions of others. True forgiveness is focusing on the challenge of overcoming without fear or resentment. Studies show people recover faster from crime or injustice if they see themselves as overcoming as a "hero" not letting setbacks stop them, and not a "victim."

But as you pointed out, it has to be REAL. You can't just "pretend to have overcome," and deny/suppress fears of being a victim. That's not letting go.

I have never met anyone who could fake or lie about forgiving things. If they can't forgive or let go, it shows. They can mask, project, but they aren't at peace. True forgiveness is so gut wrenching, it will humble you, cut you down at the knees. So you will know when people are truly freed from their pasts.

the real "heroes of forgiveness" who do not let others control them, are like Elizabeth Smart. Yes, they were victims in the past, but they don't let it hold them back. Nor does it mean you have to go on the attack either. They are truly at peace, and people cannot upset them over it.

As for TK I don't think she's afraid. I think she's open about what she feels and thinks, and works with the best ideas to deal with things effectively. She does not cut and run like Slimey did at the first sign of me saying something real.

As for you, I think you're a hero for overcoming what happened to you. I met one other girl who survived something like that, and have nothing but respect. I went through an extremely abusive situation, and still overreact emotionally though I'm pretty healed compared to where I was before. If anything I am too transparent about my process, not as controlled and contained as you and TK and Ana. Thanks for your help to practice here. Sorry if this was still too long! 

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thrill

You are assuming someone is "stuck" here talking about it, when it is a good thing to share openly. If you discourage that level of interaction as somehow "lacking" then this is why people don't share, but go out and really experiment in real life. Why talk it down as negative. That was my point, sorry.

As for why TK is on here, and she and I get along even though we're totally different, maybe we are meant to work out creative solutions to how to help women and families in her situation. It happens to fall in line with work my friends have been doing for years. That could revolutionize the criminal justice system, and free up billions in resources that could pay for education and job training to break people out of this cycle of poverty, crime, abuse and "victimhood."

I don't see TK as a victim but someone openly seeking and sharing to find creative and effective ways to deal with whatever situations she faces. I see that as good.

I also see your criticisms, Sugar's and Wilful's as good because we are having this converation. All this is good. I'm glad we're here.

Ana if anyone was stuck, I was stuck trying to figure out how to sell solutions to a political media that only wants to bark about problems. That's where I was when I came back here. Working out ideas on two others sites, Well maybe TK can help me toughen up and bark at people to get these solutions going. And maybe these ideas I have collected can help TK get some creative program or business going, something to get her and her daughter to a better place. So this isn't stuck but using this forum to find out how to get everyone unstuck. This is good. thanks Ana

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