Sociopath Community

Good said: 

Bossroach said: 

Good said: 

Limey said: 

watch your mouth around jim, good. he could fuck you and this site up. pick your battles wisely 

im trembling, luna

 kek, I'm serious though, I like you and respect you alot for your skills, do you approve of what TC is doing? I don't want to ruin our e-friendship over some bs

 

I don't care that much either way. Thats why I do not want to moderate, its annoying.

But if we are to look at SC from a point of view of its values, then I do not approve of TC's actions. Cawks shitty spam is not big enough to matter.
I do not care enough to argue my opinion however.

 

Even if you ddos the site/spam cp/hack or whatever, as long as its not an attempt to personally target me, then we are good, from my point of view. Of course I will try to stop you. Part of the job.

 That's great. Even tho you said that you wouldn't be mad about it I still will not attempt because you're too great of a friend and I respect you too much to even go that far. I might pentest and give you stopgap measures like I did before but no direct attacks on my part.

I only request from you to ask (or tell) TC to stop tripping on cawk because I know he's doing it because he is bored and wants to feel powerful (or naughty for mod abusing w.e), tho this is a mere request, not an implied threat or anything, I'm still dedicated to protect this site and on your side no matter what your decision is.

See, this is how easy it is to defuse a situation. Luna should take notes. 

Cawk said:

Turncoat said:

Cawk said:

You, along with Edvard have been trying hard to push me into posting it though.

No I'm not, I actually want to have you around, but flooding is a problem that has to be addressed. 

For real, I like having you here, but you have bouts of wild immaturity and demands for special treatment that I cannot get behind that also add up to your only real inconsistent moments. 

Suggest something then. I just want to be able to let out my inner spammer, but even the spam I post I want to be read by others.

Over the years I've seen people able to be tempered down through a sense of inevitability. Through my being such a No-Lifer, many fell in line or otherwise saw that I won't stop either. The endlessness of it in the past has been enough to dissolve most of the problems, especially if I can find ways for the community to watch the journey instead of having the ambiguity rage of swiss cheesed topics. 

Goober used to post pages of crap, but overtime through condensing he adjusted to the expectation and mostly stuck to low quality words. 

Turquie used to be a lot pushier, to the point of a bad rep that likely still lingers for some people as part of a greater, misunderstood whole, but has overtime seen that "less is more" when it comes to getting people's attention. 

Blanc has a lot to say, and that's been more acceptable because of how she tends to contain the flood inside the span of just a few topics. She'll literally start ranting like she's out of her mind and yet she still has found the means of keeping it inside. 

Sinister after months of floods with rainbow dogs and shit grew exhausted and saw S-C as the only real place where people were willing to have an actual discussion with her even after her history of spam. Giving her her favorite username back solidified this further. 

Dexter... I'm not going to lie, he's a "winner". He only leaves because he gets bored, and no tactics other than female flattery break through his mindset. He is very consistently himself on all platforms he's a part of, and he actually believes the weird shit he says about helping companies with "his ideas", a true delusional that cannot truly be appealed to. 

Jim honestly held himself back more than I ever did the holding. I feel like our rapport was purely what kept things peaceful, but that's a fragile line to walk when he's prone to outbursts of emotion. 

For you, I don't even know yet. 

It's not too late to get a block function implemented that hides all of the blocked person's topics on the blocker's end. Maybe with a bit of customization to it. Like being able to choose if only topics are to be hidden, or chat logs or posts as well.

Other than the potential to wreck clickbait gags, what's wrong with having your posts be condensed? 

Past so many topics it looks like noise, and actually alienates your audience. You're demonstrating that the spam is not necessarily a thing in your control, and I do sympathize from others expressing similar issues, but the reason that mods were even made a thing in the first place was for containing floods. If it's shown to be okay for you to do, either everyone will be given a pass to do it or it'd be you being handled as some sort of privileged user. 

The issues with a block function: 
A) The person can just make multiple accounts to get around it. You've shown a willingness to do this on here without a block function and it was largely a problem that showed itself in spades back on S-C. 

B) You say you want people to read your spam, but if everyone blocks you then they aren't going to see it. Wouldn't this just inspire you to go with issue A? 

C) I know making it about "Image" is pretty shitty, I'm not entirely fond of the notion either, but some aspects of it are the blatant reality. We already let so much go here, but much like many other flood-friendly modless forums I've encountered... no one wants to join or stick around in a place that looks like shit. I want as many freedoms as this place can muster, but it'd just be a few people here at best if we let chaos reign (again, another reason I like condensing, I hate censoring). 


While I'm not against having a block function on here, the floods would still need to be handled if this community wants to remain a thing instead of shrinking away into nothingness. Even my own preference for, as Tryp put it, "Laissez-faire" moderating has been put through it's paces and shown to not be 100% realistic. 

You were not a Jim empathizer. You did what you did for your own interests, to get a new forum made, so you could be member again minus the obliterated ego. 

It was closer to a screaming thought along the lines of "She can't just keep getting away with this!". While I am a big fan of Jim, you're right, I was not a Jim empathizer back then, but rather a Billy one. 

It's definitely an ego thing, but it was less about being a member again and more about her no longer being "the problem". 

 You didn't get demodded as a result of defending Jim, but the SC values. You would've done that for anyone.

That's a good thing though, right? 

and Edvard's attempts to trigger me, because he thinks if I feel rejected, I'd post it. This dip shit is so desperate to win against me, he randomly insults me with irrelevancy to the post/topic that he quotes, either it's retarded and/or genuinely thinks he could piss me off with that so I'd post CP again. 

You've shown yourself being triggered into responding emotionally towards him with targeted floods, and otherwise mostly upped your spam game from feeling disrespected. You also say that every person who opposes you is "Ed-like", which gives very clear signs and symptoms that this dude rustles your jimmies on the regular. 

I get less triggered than you seem to think, I enjoy myself. Having an enemy or two makes it all fun. Edvard is my main anger outlet, mastermind of the ban on sight policy that got others and me banned back then.

Is your thing about Ed just past context, or something more? 

Edvard is an interesting person for how he seems to be able to garner respect and attention from people in spite of his lack of intelligence and his foolhardy counter-intuitive behaviors. Even with me no longer taking him as seriously as I once did I find myself still wrapped into his scenarios, like I have to explain everything for him so that "he'll understand", but he is too stubborn these days to listen to anyone but himself. 

He can write any scenario to reflect himself as the winner, and I find myself foolish every time I try to appeal to his ideas, but at the same time ignoring him entirely means that others can get sucked into his idiocy... so at this point arguing with Ed mostly serves as the means of showing other people the problems with his arguments. 

The number of times I've had to argue with people about his shitty ideas and awful approaches borders on madness, as he's always the flagship of constant bitching over every little thing until it's him at the wheel. You'd think people'd see through him by now, but I'm stuck with assuming that for covert reasons of their own they'd rather have him at the forefront so that they can keep looking publicly detached. 

He made a lot of effort to keep me away from S-C. Even when we haven't chatted in a while nowadays, I usually target him when I feel like trolling. He's a good candidate to make fun of overall, possibly the only other person besides Primal (who doesn't have the option to reply to me, you know, you don't hit an enemy who's on the ground, except maybe Edvard).

It's when they're "on the ground" that they say the loudest most primal shit though. It's when their poise has been challenged in ways that mill at it that you really can see who someone is. 

Another reason he's a good mock target is because he's the spearhead of some around here: "Strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered."

Who does he still herd around these days though? I get that back on S-C, but he's kinda past his prime now. 

Edvard is a fit challenge. There's various reasons why him and not somebody else. I don't maliciously troll users I don't have a problem with generally.

As you said earlier, posting CP is an admission of loss, one people will sympathize with you even less over, so you have little to gain beyond some shock reactions (and I'd hope you're after more than that...). How though is flooding not you making yourself look lesser, when you could otherwise just be replying to people in a sensible, "logical" way? 

Posting CP would result in a new bandwagon to ban us on sight again. As much as they hate to admit it, the majority of users here FEAR CP. As a result, they will agree to anything to make it stop. 

They do, but they also now have more trust in the staff to handle it. These motherfuckers expected it to be handled immediately back when it was still new from it being a fresh and unknown wounding, but now they understand that it'll go down in time and have learned a semblance of patience. 

...believe me though I still see quite a bit of CP triggering hitting people where it hurts when it's just discussed as a concept or in relation to one's reputation, and only time seems to be what calms them from those bouts of emotion. They also however like to use the "CP Scandal" as an excuse for other feelings that they're carrying, making said scandal into more of a scapegoat that lets them avoid their problems not with the CP itself, but with the people posting it. 

The ones who were the loudest about CP-hate were also the most wounded by the people posting it. 

Spamming nothing illegal is fine, nobody but mods give a shit.

I actually have a fairly positive following about flood control going right now, but that might be doing as well as it is because of it being you doing it instead of someone "they like". 

I love how Cawk's main issue is that his efforts are not being taken seriously here, and that he is in the shade of Jim. Then Jim comes in and tells everyone to back off from Cawk, completely annihilating Cawk's point.

Cawk, buddy, Jim has done more than just post CP and roleplay CP stuff. Jim has a massive influence on a certain type of person, the insecure, subby people with low self esteem, which sadly are quite common here. Jim applies a cycle of abuse and reward that keeps them as his followers. Read up on this tactic, it is very common. You, on the other hand, have no such "talent". You have NO personality outside spam and CP postage, and frankly, people don't really give a shit about you, because they don't really know you.

Try exposing more of your personality, try interacting more honestly like you did with FurryBoy. Become a real person, and don't be just a defensive-aggressive twat who shits on the forum for attention and the imaginary feeling of a power trip. I for one am willing to give you another chance to integrate into this community, and I'm the least person you'd expect to do this. So don't throw in the towel, and keep being active member instead of a reactive one. Just don't behave like a shithead, bothering everyone with pedobabbler and flooding, and expect people to listen to you in any way. Or if you do this from time to time, try to be MORE than this at least.

Bossroach said: 

Good said: 

Bossroach said: 

Good said: 

Limey said: 

watch your mouth around jim, good. he could fuck you and this site up. pick your battles wisely 

im trembling, luna

 kek, I'm serious though, I like you and respect you alot for your skills, do you approve of what TC is doing? I don't want to ruin our e-friendship over some bs

 

I don't care that much either way. Thats why I do not want to moderate, its annoying.

But if we are to look at SC from a point of view of its values, then I do not approve of TC's actions. Cawks shitty spam is not big enough to matter.
I do not care enough to argue my opinion however.

 

Even if you ddos the site/spam cp/hack or whatever, as long as its not an attempt to personally target me, then we are good, from my point of view. Of course I will try to stop you. Part of the job.

 That's great. Even tho you said that you wouldn't be mad about it I still will not attempt because you're too great of a friend and I respect you too much to even go that far. I might pentest and give you stopgap measures like I did before but no direct attacks on my part.

I only request from you to ask (or tell) TC to stop tripping on cawk because I know he's doing it because he is bored and wants to feel powerful (or naughty for mod abusing w.e), tho this is a mere request, not an implied threat or anything, I'm still dedicated to protect this site and on your side no matter what your decision is.

That is very nice, I didn't really expect it, thank you.

Because you asked me so nicely I will.

Good said: 

I only request from you to ask (or tell) TC to stop tripping on cawk because I know he's doing it because he is bored and wants to feel powerful (or naughty for mod abusing w.e), tho this is a mere request, not an implied threat or anything, I'm still dedicated to protect this site and on your side no matter what your decision is.

That is very nice, I didn't really expect it, thank you.

Because you asked me so nicely I will.

 Hahaha! This is amazing. I am genuinely curious if TC (and Inq) back down after this crap.

Bossroach said:

I only request from you to ask (or tell) TC to stop tripping on cawk because I know he's doing it because he is bored and wants to feel powerful (or naughty for mod abusing w.e), tho this is a mere request, not an implied threat or anything, I'm still dedicated to protect this site and on your side no matter what your decision is.

You feeling threatened or something Jim? He claims to be enjoying this discussion, while you seem to be making more and more threats as time goes on. 

I know you like having him as your child-like cheerleader, it's easier to get supply that way, but Cawk shouldn't be held back like this when he's capable of more. He needs his own path, he's expressed wanting to find it more overtly since your excursion with CS, and your trying to control him is kinda toxic. 

Cawk said:

I'm enjoying the conversation. Can't always have a talk with you. :)

Turncoat said: 

 

Good said:

But if we are to look at SC from a point of view of its values, then I do not approve of TC's actions. Cawks shitty spam is not big enough to matter.

 How big would you say is big enough? One page used to be "The Line" for most people. 

Of course I will try to stop you. Part of the job.

This ^

Who are these most people? I missed that talk.

When you look at the entire context of the situation, it was a one time happening and it made people click one page away.
After that it was to make a point, so it wasn't really flooding, it had meaning other then to just annoy people and make the site less appealing.

I do not know what exact measures would be best. In the discord server I judge things on a case by case basis and I always try to be as lenient as possible. In fact I may be the most lenient mod, even tho I don't mod much these days(more of maintenance and PR now), but I did back in the past.

So as long as cawks flooding isn't all the time and doesn't span pages, I don't really care. Most of SC topics are spam by default.

This is not unique to Cawk ofc.

Take for example when the anti-spam rule was added, Dexters spam. That was real spam/flood.

Good said: 

Turncoat said: 

Good said:

But if we are to look at SC from a point of view of its values, then I do not approve of TC's actions. Cawks shitty spam is not big enough to matter.

 How big would you say is big enough? One page used to be "The Line" for most people. 

Of course I will try to stop you. Part of the job.

This ^

Who are these most people? I missed that talk. 

For real..? 

It was years of this, often with people complaining about me "not doing enough". 

When you look at the entire context of the situation, it was a one time happening and it made people click one page away.

It was at least three times so far, and with Inquirer's contribution to handling the floods it might have been more. He's also shown little interest in stopping. 

So as long as cawks flooding isn't all the time and doesn't span pages, I don't really care. Most of SC topics are spam by default.

So your limit is around two pages then? 

Take for example when the anti-spam rule was added, Dexters spam. That was real spam/flood.

The only real difference between their approaches was initial repetition. Dexter'd post the same like... three videos for a while, but when he saw that people became accustomed to ignoring it he began doing the "Yashua" and "Mirrors" thing to offer more variety within it.