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I know you like having him as your child-like cheerleader, it's easier to get supply that way, but Cawk shouldn't be held back like this when he's capable of more. He needs his own path, and he's expressed wanting to find it more overtly since your excursion with CS, and your trying to control him is kinda toxic. 

Jim became insecure of his place as Cawk's master. This is how he is stepping in. Apparently, TC, or anyone else, you are not allowed to go against Cawk in any way, because the Keker gang of bullies will be on your ass. And you are too spineless to let that happen, as we all know.
I just want other people to read this shit and be confused whether it's part of the post or not.
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Why are we even arguing that 30 pedophilia-themed topics are not to be compressed, at least? Meta is such an easily manipulated tool, I swear, hahaha

I just want other people to read this shit and be confused whether it's part of the post or not.
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Edvard said: 

I know you like having him as your child-like cheerleader, it's easier to get supply that way, but Cawk shouldn't be held back like this when he's capable of more. He needs his own path, and he's expressed wanting to find it more overtly since your excursion with CS, and your trying to control him is kinda toxic. 

Jim became insecure of his place as Cawk's master. This is how he is stepping in. Apparently, TC, or anyone else, you are not allowed to go against Cawk in any way, because the Keker gang of bullies will be on your ass. And you are too spineless to let that happen, as we all know.

Are you kidding, Jim's been making threats about this on and off for weeks. I'd say this is a lenient variant of not responding to attempted social terrorism. The guy even gave me a list of ultimatums as a power move: Apologize, Wait for him to talk to Meta, or accept the inevitable DDOSing of the website. Guess which I picked? 

What would you do in our shoes, ban the guy? 

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Good said:
But if we are to look at SC from a point of view of its values, then I do not approve of TC's actions. Cawks shitty spam is not big enough to matter.

 How big would you say is big enough? One page used to be "The Line" for most people. 

Of course I will try to stop you. Part of the job.

This ^

Who are these most people? I missed that talk. 

For real..? 

It was years of this, often with people complaining about me "not doing enough". 

I forget irrelevant information, i wasnt really asking, i dont really care, just thought it would make the post more complete

When you look at the entire context of the situation, it was a one time happening and it made people click one page away.

It was at least three times so far, and with Inquirer's contribution to handling the floods it might have been more. He's also shown little interest in stopping. 

Only the first time counts, the others were not real floods. And the first time was irrelevant.

So as long as cawks flooding isn't all the time and doesn't span pages, I don't really care. Most of SC topics are spam by default.

So your limit is around two pages then? 

Maybe even 3. Depends on who does it, why and how. If its dexter, then fuck him, thats all he does. Context matters. If its someone that gets the annoying vibe every once in a while, then its part of their quirk. SC values are about freedom right, so you should make excuses for peoples behaviors, until you can't.

Take for example when the anti-spam rule was added, Dexters spam. That was real spam/flood.

The only real difference between their approaches was initial repetition. Dexter'd post the same like... three videos for a while, but when he saw that people became accustomed to ignoring it he began doing the "Yashua" and "Mirrors" thing to offer more variety within it. 

I remember seeing pages after pages after pages of topics. That was annoying, as they had no purpose and it was dexters entire character: useless. If you just let cawk flood one page once, or even twice, I am not sure he would continue.

If he did tho, maybe then. Depends on the time intervals and amount. And tbh spam content, maybe some of it isnt real spam.

The more useful a person is, the more leniency is good, as the more useful they are, the easier it is to talk to them instead of punishing them. Go and try to reason with Dexter for example. My use of the word 'useful' is not as you understand it, it means that a person is not a waste of time listening to. I actually read some of cawks posts, can't say the same for many others. Even tho i find his views on certain subjects reprehensible.

Cheery bye!
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Edvard said: 

Why are we even arguing that 30 pedophilia-themed topics are not to be compressed, at least? Meta is such an easily manipulated tool, I swear, hahaha

Apparently everyone you disagree with manipulate me, yet you cant. Nor the rest that i disagree with can. Interesting how that works.

Yet you are manipulated by person you yourself admitted is crazy. You have lost all your credibility when you did that.

Cheery bye!
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Cawk said:
Turncoat said:
Cawk said:
You, along with Edvard have been trying hard to push me into posting it though.
No I'm not, I actually want to have you around, but flooding is a problem that has to be addressed. 

For real, I like having you here, but you have bouts of wild immaturity and demands for special treatment that I cannot get behind that also add up to your only real inconsistent moments. 

Suggest something then. I just want to be able to let out my inner spammer, but even the spam I post I want to be read by others.

Over the years I've seen people able to be tempered down through a sense of inevitability. Through my being such a No-Lifer, many fell in line or otherwise saw that I won't stop either. The endlessness of it in the past has been enough to dissolve most of the problems, especially if I can find ways for the community to watch the journey instead of having the ambiguity rage of swiss cheesed topics. 

Goober used to post pages of crap, but overtime through condensing he adjusted to the expectation and mostly stuck to low quality words. 

Turquie used to be a lot pushier, to the point of a bad rep that likely still lingers for some people as part of a greater, misunderstood whole, but has overtime seen that "less is more" when it comes to getting people's attention. 

Blanc has a lot to say, and that's been more acceptable because of how she tends to contain the flood inside the span of just a few topics. She'll literally start ranting like she's out of her mind and yet she still has found the means of keeping it inside. 

Sinister after months of floods with rainbow dogs and shit grew exhausted and saw S-C as the only real place where people were willing to have an actual discussion with her even after her history of spam. Giving her her favorite username back solidified this further. 

Dexter... I'm not going to lie, he's a "winner". He only leaves because he gets bored, and no tactics other than female flattery break through his mindset. He is very consistently himself on all platforms he's a part of, and he actually believes the weird shit he says about helping companies with "his ideas", a true delusional that cannot truly be appealed to. 

Jim honestly held himself back more than I ever did the holding. I feel like our rapport was purely what kept things peaceful, but that's a fragile line to walk when he's prone to outbursts of emotion. 

For you, I don't even know yet. 

It's not too late to get a block function implemented that hides all of the blocked person's topics on the blocker's end. Maybe with a bit of customization to it. Like being able to choose if only topics are to be hidden, or chat logs or posts as well.

Other than the potential to wreck clickbait gags, what's wrong with having your posts be condensed? 

Past so many topics it looks like noise, and actually alienates your audience. You're demonstrating that the spam is not necessarily a thing in your control, and I do sympathize from others expressing similar issues, but the reason that mods were even made a thing in the first place was for containing floods. If it's shown to be okay for you to do, either everyone will be given a pass to do it or it'd be you being handled as some sort of privileged user. 

The issues with a block function
A) The person can just make multiple accounts to get around it. You've shown a willingness to do this on here without a block function and it was largely a problem that showed itself in spades back on S-C. 

Yes, I did and by my idea of SC values, I was mod abused and got my topics deleted yesterday.

"But we agreed on what defines spam by our values 6 years ago."

2 years ago people were being banned for "pedo talk" or "praising CP posters" and what not. This was also something that was agreed on and recognized as SC values.

I've grasped the idea of SC values, it's just you've been enforcing it wrong.

It's time to change and become consistent, give people more freedom. Every person here has at least 1 mental disorder, you shouldn't expect this place to be all neat and clean.



B) You say you want people to read your spam, but if everyone blocks you then they aren't going to see it. Wouldn't this just inspire you to go with issue A?

As long as my topics are publicly viewable by default, I don't care much.

A block function itself is shitty too, but not as bad as topics being written off as spam and deleted. Maybe increase the "spam threshold" instead.



C) I know making it about "Image" is pretty shitty, I'm not entirely fond of the notion either, but some aspects of it are the blatant reality. We already let so much go here, but much like many other flood-friendly modless forums I've encountered... no one wants to join or stick around in a place that looks like shit. I want as many freedoms as this place can muster, but it'd just be a few people here at best if we let chaos reign (again, another reason I like condensing, I hate censoring).

What I posted yesterday was not spam. Well formatted topics with points to them that weren't even one liners.




While I'm not against having a block function on here, the floods would still need to be handled if this community wants to remain a thing instead of shrinking away into nothingness. Even my own preference for, as Tryp put it, "Laissez-faire" moderating has been put through it's paces and shown to not be 100% realistic. 

 You're exaggerating yesterday's incident by a lot.

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Good said: 
Edvard said: 

Why are we even arguing that 30 pedophilia-themed topics are not to be compressed, at least? Meta is such an easily manipulated tool, I swear, hahaha

Apparently everyone you disagree with manipulate me, yet you cant.

This is because I am shitting on you, while those who manipulate you are doing so by pretending to be your friend and talking nicely.

Yet you are manipulated by person you yourself admitted is crazy.

 Manipulated into what? Everything I am doing or saying here is because I want to. I am watching you retards react, getting answers regarding your muddled drama you expect us to just accept without any questions, and providing entertainment and activity for the community.

I just want other people to read this shit and be confused whether it's part of the post or not.
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Cawk, you are aware that it was Inquirer who deleted all your threads the other day, right? Why do you keep yapping at TC?

I just want other people to read this shit and be confused whether it's part of the post or not.
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A lot of what transpires happens because of what examples have been set. What would stop this place from transforming from a flood into a tsunami? 

The only real defense Meta's throwing in your favor is over how he sees all SC posts as spam for some reason. 

Cawk said:
2 years ago people were being banned for "pedo talk" or "praising CP posters" and what not. This was also something that was agreed on and recognized as SC values.

Do you remember how I responded to that? 

It's time to change and become consistent, give people more freedom. Every person here has at least 1 mental disorder, you shouldn't expect this place to be all neat and clean.

It's literally just flood control. 

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Edvard said: 
Good said: 
Edvard said: 

Why are we even arguing that 30 pedophilia-themed topics are not to be compressed, at least? Meta is such an easily manipulated tool, I swear, hahaha

Apparently everyone you disagree with manipulate me, yet you cant.

This is because I am shitting on you, while those who manipulate you are doing so by pretending to be your friend and talking nicely.

Aha, you keep telling yourself that.

Yet you are manipulated by person you yourself admitted is crazy.

 Manipulated into what? Everything I am doing or saying here is because I want to. I am watching you retards react, getting answers regarding your muddled drama you expect us to just accept without any questions, and providing entertainment and activity for the community.

"Aha, you keep telling yourself that."

You can ask your questions, but you will get no answers. Except from Primal, who is clearly in a very coherent mindset.

If you wanted to be a clown Ed maybe we can implement some feature where you do public shows?

Cheery bye!
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