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He was updating the forecast from the original. He straight up said the hurricane instead turned right, and he said the people in Alabama will be okay, so no cause for alarm.

The footage by itself is enough without the spoonfed leftism, and his tweets and former history don't help. 

The footage was edited and focused on the part where he pointed out "the original projected course" of the hurricane. He also dismissed it and said how instead Dorian went right instead of left.

If you paid attention to what Trump said you would know this. But you're thinking what CNN wants you to think. Wake up.

You're really in deep, aren't you? 

I'm not even a leftist, and if Trump had stuck to his original politics and ran for the Democrats and ended up winning I'd still be proclaiming it's madness after his history with the media spectacle, business failures, and debts. 

Yeah okay. Now look past the imagery and listen and give me some feedback on what Trump really said.

 

It's our president arguing with wind, something I can recall him doing around... what, three or four times now I think? 

He is not arguing, they are asking him about the old data in the press conference, and he basically said Alabama is okay. Again he stated how the hurricane ended up going right instead of left. The rest of the footage was left out so CNN can make this about a lol sharpie circled around Alabama's shoreline. 

...so you didn't see his Tweets and former statements? 

I figured you'd be following his tweets religiously. 

Well it's a known fact that death toll rises. He was told one thing when he was there, and after he was told another thing. 

Why the other day the death toll in Bahamas was 5. But Trump better not tweet about it or else the NPC's will carry on. 

 

CNN programming is programming you. 

What is your explanation for how often he covers himself with "I don't know" in a flustered mess? 

 Hold on. What is your excuse for what I just pointed out to you ? And why is Trump saying "I don't know" now a thing when your original protocol was to insist he was doubling down on early data with a sharpie ?

It's in the same video, did you even watch the entire thing? 

I did. Tell me. Why is this about the sharpie.

 

That's a no win situation going on in your program.

Yet you're the one who'd defend him to your dying breath. You can't even visit the notion of him having done much wrong, always armed with an excuse for him. 

You're whining now. One thing at a time, and forget the "much wrong" Let's talk about this instance of CNN programing you posted.

 



How am I the programmed one when you're the one who's blatantly seeing this as a bipartisan issue instead of a matter of the president himself independent of parties? 

 Do you really believe the President created the original forecast of Hurricane Dorian himself ?

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He was updating the forecast from the original. He straight up said the hurricane instead turned right, and he said the people in Alabama will be okay, so no cause for alarm.

The footage by itself is enough without the spoonfed leftism, and his tweets and former history don't help. 

The footage was edited and focused on the part where he pointed out "the original projected course" of the hurricane. He also dismissed it and said how instead Dorian went right instead of left.

If you paid attention to what Trump said you would know this. But you're thinking what CNN wants you to think. Wake up.

You're really in deep, aren't you? 

I'm not even a leftist, and if Trump had stuck to his original politics and ran for the Democrats and ended up winning I'd still be proclaiming it's madness after his history with the media spectacle, business failures, and debts. 

Yeah okay. Now look past the imagery and listen and give me some feedback on what Trump really said.

He gave a slight adendum to his repeated mistake to try to save face, but otherwise had a hilarious sharpie mark on the map to try to enclose Alabama into the projection. When asked about the sharpie he just went into his usual deflection, but more frazzled from the continually mounting presidential pressures. 

Dude's been making a spectacle out of himself to the point that seeing Fox News spin isn't enough to save him now. 

It's our president arguing with wind, something I can recall him doing around... what, three or four times now I think? 

He is not arguing, they are asking him about the old data in the press conference, and he basically said Alabama is okay. Again he stated how the hurricane ended up going right instead of left. The rest of the footage was left out so CNN can make this about a lol sharpie circled around Alabama's shoreline. 

...so you didn't see his Tweets and former statements? 

I figured you'd be following his tweets religiously. 

Well it's a known fact that death toll rises. He was told one thing when he was there, and after he was told another thing. 

So you think someone told him to say the Alabama thing instead of that being his usual uncensored tweeting practices? 

Why the other day the death toll in Bahamas was 5. But Trump better not tweet about it or else the NPC's will carry on. 

He doesn't accept corrections and calls the facts "Fake News" just as readily as the actual Fake News. 

It's one thing to actually be able to tell them apart, but he just calls being doubted that now. 

CNN programming is programming you. 

What is your explanation for how often he covers himself with "I don't know" in a flustered mess? 

 Hold on. What is your excuse for what I just pointed out to you ? And why is Trump saying "I don't know" now a thing when your original protocol was to insist he was doubling down on early data with a sharpie ?

It's in the same video, did you even watch the entire thing? 

I did. Tell me. Why is this about the sharpie.

You mean you don't see the weird circle around Alabama that was then followed later with a photoshopped map to save himself from the embarrassment? It's that when he was corrected, he did not say "Oh, my bad", he continued to spread hysteria to a place that wasn't even going to be hit. 

Are you also going to ignore this man's weird thing about wind? 

That's a no win situation going on in your program.

Yet you're the one who'd defend him to your dying breath. You can't even visit the notion of him having done much wrong, always armed with an excuse for him. 

You're whining now. One thing at a time, and forget the "much wrong" Let's talk about this instance of CNN programing you posted.

You never want to talk about your own programming, always insisting it's everyone else who's in it. 

That one was posted not for it's post-amble, but for how the start of it had just the clip without voice over. 

How am I the programmed one when you're the one who's blatantly seeing this as a bipartisan issue instead of a matter of the president himself independent of parties? 

 Do you really believe the President created the original forecast of Hurricane Dorian himself ?

No, he made a wild claim about how far it was going to hit, the weather people had to correct him, then he went on a rant about how we can't trust the weather people while proceeding to continue warning Alabamans. 

Check his tweets, like usual it's quite the spectacle. 

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Spatial, are you really going to say The Left has been programming me even as far back as when Trump claimed to be Left Wing while rubbing elbows with The Clintons? Trump has no real political party. 

I'm a long time fan, I used to laugh at The Apprentice with my mother and through her was turned onto seeing his goofy media. He's a media clown, drop your bipartisan lenses for a sec and look at the man

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He was updating the forecast from the original. He straight up said the hurricane instead turned right, and he said the people in Alabama will be okay, so no cause for alarm.

The footage by itself is enough without the spoonfed leftism, and his tweets and former history don't help. 

The footage was edited and focused on the part where he pointed out "the original projected course" of the hurricane. He also dismissed it and said how instead Dorian went right instead of left.

If you paid attention to what Trump said you would know this. But you're thinking what CNN wants you to think. Wake up.

You're really in deep, aren't you? 

I'm not even a leftist, and if Trump had stuck to his original politics and ran for the Democrats and ended up winning I'd still be proclaiming it's madness after his history with the media spectacle, business failures, and debts. 

Yeah okay. Now look past the imagery and listen and give me some feedback on what Trump really said.

He gave a slight adendum to his repeated mistake to try to save face, but otherwise had a hilarious sharpie mark on the map to try to enclose Alabama into the projection. When asked about the sharpie he just went into his usual deflection, but more frazzled from the continually mounting presidential pressures.

Yeah it was brought up so they looked at it. The circle drawn would make sense if the hurricane went in that direction because.... Hurricanes tend to stay on the water and fizzle off on land. 

The questions the reporters ask are ass backward and less important to people. We're in the now and they want to talk about the the original forecast meanwhile the hurricane is by North Carolina. It's a joke.

 


Dude's been making a spectacle out of himself to the point that seeing Fox News spin isn't enough to save him now. 

I remember how shocked you were on election night. "Wow he actually won". My research and finding were no guesswork. I brought the real polls conducted by the freedom independent alliance. I brought the super computer calculations about Trump's victory. I even brought the spiritual prophecies. This man will win next term again. The spectacle is the mainstream media's reaction to Trump. They have worked overtime around the clock to stop him. They still do it for reasons you're not conditioned to handle.

 So you think someone told him to say the Alabama thing instead of that being his usual uncensored tweeting practices? 

 Had Dorian continued westbound, it could have potentially cut over Florida and reach Alabama maybe as a category 1 or 2 hurricane. Like I said hurricanes stay on the water for the most part, and fizzle away on land.

Bitch listen. Alabama WAS under threat of Dorian. The fact Dorian changed course is fortunate for Alabama.

You mean you don't see the weird circle around Alabama that was then followed later with a photoshopped map to save himself from the embarrassment? It's that when he was corrected, he did not say "Oh, my bad", he continued to spread hysteria to a place that wasn't even going to be hit. 

lol Yes Nate. I see the circle.

Okay let's go back to August 29th and see the image from the National Hurricane Center in Georgia. 

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Okay ? 

So the board that Trump used, had the sharpie circle as an update AT THE TIME, as the NHC reported it will potentially hit Alabama as seen on August 29.

Updates dude. There are only 1 of 2 ways the Hurricane would go cause again, it tends to stay on water.

But you know what ? We're past that point and the Hurricane banked right and continued North East instead. But the media wants to make it about what was shown yesterday and blame Trump. And look how you blame Trump so far as to believe he created the early trajectories of Dorian.

List man. This hurricane like any other can change paths. I remember hurricane Florence decided to take a detour and fully came on land and fizzled out just as it started hitting my home.

Florence in 2012 (New York got hit bad with this one.)

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The point in this example is, no one anticipated the hurricane to hop on land and it did, and that was the end of it.

Right now Dorian is expected to carry on more to Eastern Canada and stroke Nova Scotia. But that can change.

 

That's a no win situation going on in your program.

Yet you're the one who'd defend him to your dying breath. You can't even visit the notion of him having done much wrong, always armed with an excuse for him. 

You're whining now. One thing at a time, and forget the "much wrong" Let's talk about this instance of CNN programing you posted.

You never want to talk about your own programming, always insisting it's everyone else who's in it. 

Dude. I'm showing you some real shit here. 

What you're told is what you opened with in this thread. But you can't stand by it at this point.

 

How am I the programmed one when you're the one who's blatantly seeing this as a bipartisan issue instead of a matter of the president himself independent of parties? 

 Do you really believe the President created the original forecast of Hurricane Dorian himself ?

No, he made a wild claim about how far it was going to hit, the weather people had to correct him, then he went on a rant about how we can't trust the weather people while proceeding to continue warning Alabamans. 

Check his tweets, like usual it's quite the spectacle. 

 No Nathan. It was the weather people who originally reported the trajectory. CEMA. Not Trump

But hey. Let's listen to CNN who obviously has a stick up their ass and believe Trump conjured up these maps on his own, then blame him when Dorian changes course cause it was sooooo dumb to warn Alabama  of a potential hurricane strike !

 

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How about when Trump refused to be corrected by weather men, instead insisting twice as hard that it'd still hit Alabama? 

When he was wrong, he did not correct himself, he fought against the weather. Again, like both Alena and I have both said, if after he was shown to be wrong he'd chosen to not continue to spread hysteria over how he cannot accept being wrong, it would not have continued to this point of absurdity. He only amended his behaviors somewhat after the fact from clearly forgetting and defaulting onto a new foundation, and even then he was still trying to push how he was not mistaken. 

I remember how shocked you were on election night. "Wow he actually won".

Yeah, I explained already that, regardless of party, him becoming president is a baffling thing. 

Ignoring the blatant Electoral College flaws that even Trump was attacking before it ruled in his favor, electing Trump is quite literally electing something between a mascot and a meme. 

My Cassandra Complex tendencies flared for a while over watching people slowly uncover shit I'd been seeing about him while he had nothing to do with politics

People need to wake up, this is not a bipartisan issue, and continuing to render it one serves to keep us distracted by civil war while they just continue to do what they want as a force that's implied to be out of our reach. Parties are the poison that let this kind of madness continue, and how it's scheduled is entirely meant to steer people. 

Dude. I'm showing you some real shit here.

The "real shit" you're showing me is in the same post as you saying that it's what you're doing. 

Yes, this is data, and I'm thankful that you're actually putting in the effort this time, but I'm sure you understand how I didn't suspect that you would. 

What you're told is what you opened with in this thread. But you can't stand by it at this point.

Seeing something you don't agree with doesn't make it immediately "programming". 

Your relationship with not the truth itself, but the nature of truth, is super busted up. You're always stuck using external justifications for why someone isn't on your page that you cannot call wrong without a long enough time lapse. 

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Good said: 

I still can't decide if Trump is a genius or an accidental genius.

He says a lot of stupid bullshit, but he knows how to say it.

 he's not so much a genius as he is an uneducated arrogant moron which people like u see themselves in and get an ego boost cos u convince urself he's rich cos his idiocy is actually genius so therefore u must also be a genius but lak no one realises it. he is god's gift to mediocre white men with mediocre peni.

everytime people compliment him they feel the need to point out that he is like the average american. not particularly intelligent, charismatic, funny, accomplished, but just like the average dickhead.

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He was updating the forecast from the original. He straight up said the hurricane instead turned right, and he said the people in Alabama will be okay, so no cause for alarm.

The footage by itself is enough without the spoonfed leftism, and his tweets and former history don't help. 

The footage was edited and focused on the part where he pointed out "the original projected course" of the hurricane. He also dismissed it and said how instead Dorian went right instead of left.

If you paid attention to what Trump said you would know this. But you're thinking what CNN wants you to think. Wake up.

 

It's our president arguing with wind, something I can recall him doing around... what, three or four times now I think? 

He is not arguing, they are asking him about the old data in the press conference, and he basically said Alabama is okay. Again he stated how the hurricane ended up going right instead of left. The rest of the footage was left out so CNN can make this about a lol sharpie circled around Alabama's shoreline.

 

CNN programming is programming you. 

What is your explanation for how often he covers himself with "I don't know" in a flustered mess? 

 Hold on. What is your excuse for what I just pointed out to you ? And why is Trump saying "I don't know" now a thing when your original protocol was to insist he was doubling down on early data with a sharpie ? That's a no win situation going on in your program.

 but tony, why the fuck would he ever say what the original projections were, and moreover why would he cause a potential panic in a state that wasn't going to be hit? i don't care if it originally was, at the time he announced it was hitting alabama it was no longer a possibility and then he was corrected but couldn't handle it so took out a marker...how do u justify this kind of childish egotistical back and forth?

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How about when Trump refused to be corrected by weather men, instead insisting twice as hard that it'd still hit Alabama? 

Show it then.

 



When he was wrong, he did not correct himself, he fought against the weather. Again, like both Alena and I have both said, if after he was shown to be wrong he'd chosen to not continue to spread hysteria over how he cannot accept being wrong, it would not have continued to this point of absurdity. He only amended his behaviors somewhat after the fact from clearly forgetting and defaulting onto a new foundation, and even then he was still trying to push how he was not mistaken. 

Nope.

I'm looking at his tweets right now and he has been retweeting information from the NHC.

The original forecasts are listed in his twitter feed, He posted one on the 31st. THEN on September 1st, he retweeted the new forecast, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

But you believe he's arguing with the weatherman because CNN told you so. You're mentally enslaved dude.

If you want the truth, all you have to do is look. 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

 

 

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How about when Trump refused to be corrected by weather men, instead insisting twice as hard that it'd still hit Alabama? 

Show it then.

Here's the map he's basing his "Alabama" nonsense on in the video from an August 29th projection: 

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Notice how it lacks the sharpie marks and doesn't touch on Alabama? This was the best image he could find before the meeting, and for whatever reason he couldn't have it be a falsified photoshop copy in time... so he marked it with a sharpie

He took a 5-10% chance of tropical storm force winds as a "definite answer", then refused to drop it once he was corrected beyond eventually being pressured from "definite" to "could". 

As for some sample Tweets of this drama...

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Tangent: He can't seem to ever remember Category 5 hurricanes: 



Check the dates at the top left. 


Continuing on...

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All he had to do was admit to his mistake and go with the professionals, but instead he kept cherry picking old sources so that he could yell at the updates as "Fake News" until the wind proves itself. Check the Tweets dude, he defended old data for days and attacked others for not agreeing with him, refusing to update his anchored opinion because he'd already said it and he doesn't like to look wrong. Of course you'll see the word "could" and make an entire case out of it: 

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Notice that disclaimer? Donald certainly didn't when he used this to defend himself. 

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If he were less defensive and rendered bipartisan conspiratorial, none of this would even be an issue. 

When he was wrong, he did not correct himself, he fought against the weather. Again, like both Alena and I have both said, if after he was shown to be wrong he'd chosen to not continue to spread hysteria over how he cannot accept being wrong, it would not have continued to this point of absurdity. He only amended his behaviors somewhat after the fact from clearly forgetting and defaulting onto a new foundation, and even then he was still trying to push how he was not mistaken. 

Nope.

I'm looking at his tweets right now and he has been retweeting information from the NHC.

The original forecasts are listed in his twitter feed, He posted one on the 31st. THEN on September 1st, he retweeted the new forecast, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

You're welcome to show me where his updates aren't just shielding his ego against current accuracy. 

But you believe he's arguing with the weatherman because CNN told you so. You're mentally enslaved dude.

...you really can't drop bipartisan programming, can you? It's not even letting you read what I'm saying, instead a convenient strawman to keep your fragile perspective afloat. 

These kinds of points aren't even arguing with me, but with an idea you have of me. 

If you want the truth, all you have to do is look. 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

You act like I don't follow him when I've clearly expressed otherwise. 

So why doesn't he have an answer for why the black semicircle was sharpied onto his map? 

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