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Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

Whorechata said: 

 

 

Blanc said:

then my dad decided to tell me that he was pulling the plug on me, because he doesn't see any improvement externally and i'm not discussing what i discuss in therapy- he can't tell it's improving anything so he wants to like stop paying for it. and he also said that he wants to stop helping me financially with my apartment once the lease is up so that leaves me unable to stay there.



and i just sort of flipped out, he started ranting about the bible and stuff as usual and... i'm just sitting tehre feeling really misunderstood. i don't know how to tell him the therapy is working i just need time, and the reason i don't discuss everything i discuss in therapy yet is because i'm not ready i'm not done processing it. i tried exlaining this to my mom the other week when she got mad at me for not talking about it and telling her every detail as well. and she also threatened me with pulling th eplug on my apartment and the therapist if i didn't talk about it as well. it was stressful the way she did it and i just started crying and i told her, "i give up. i'm so tired, i just can't do this anymore." aka arguing and fighting for a way for them to support me and like me again enough to take care of things the way that would be helpful to me.

 Jesus Christ honestly if your parent weren't supportive they wouldn't have been paying for therapy for as long you've been in it, I really do think they should cut off financial help, I feel like that would help you a lot

 Nope. Her parents are worried whether she's telling the therapist the things they did to her, fear of exposure.

Blanc my cute, you should tell them whatever they want to hear in order to keep them paying for your therapy. They would deserve it since they abused you and you deserve some compensation if you will, I give you permission if you feel the need for it.

Just tell em that you're telling your therapist good things about them.

By "external progress" they don't mean signs of getting better, I think they think therapy will make you a more agreeable and malleable person because if you weren't insane you would do as they want and believe everything they say, right? Typical narc parent BS

So go ahead and play them as much as you can until you finish therapy and also seek to become independent yourself. I also have depression and C-PTSD, the beatings I took were much worse than yours and I still was able to put on my big boy boots. It's time to put on your big girl boots and take some responsibility for your life. You can't sit around moping over how shitty your childhood was and tell yourself your life still sucks because of that. You have all the control and options now. But on your big girl boots and cut off the umbilical cord.

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

 

 

Blanc said:

then my dad decided to tell me that he was pulling the plug on me, because he doesn't see any improvement externally and i'm not discussing what i discuss in therapy- he can't tell it's improving anything so he wants to like stop paying for it. and he also said that he wants to stop helping me financially with my apartment once the lease is up so that leaves me unable to stay there.



and i just sort of flipped out, he started ranting about the bible and stuff as usual and... i'm just sitting tehre feeling really misunderstood. i don't know how to tell him the therapy is working i just need time, and the reason i don't discuss everything i discuss in therapy yet is because i'm not ready i'm not done processing it. i tried exlaining this to my mom the other week when she got mad at me for not talking about it and telling her every detail as well. and she also threatened me with pulling th eplug on my apartment and the therapist if i didn't talk about it as well. it was stressful the way she did it and i just started crying and i told her, "i give up. i'm so tired, i just can't do this anymore." aka arguing and fighting for a way for them to support me and like me again enough to take care of things the way that would be helpful to me.

 Jesus Christ honestly if your parent weren't supportive they wouldn't have been paying for therapy for as long you've been in it, I really do think they should cut off financial help, I feel like that would help you a lot

 Nope. Her parents are worried whether she's telling the therapist the things they did to her, fear of exposure.

Blanc my cute, you should tell them whatever they want to hear in order to keep them paying for your therapy. They would deserve it since they abused you and you deserve some compensation if you will, I give you permission if you feel the need for it.

Just tell em that you're telling your therapist good things about them.

By "external progress" they don't mean signs of getting better, I think they think therapy will make you a more agreeable and malleable person because if you weren't insane you would do as they want and believe everything they say, right? Typical narc parent BS

So go ahead and play them as much as you can until you finish therapy and also seek to become independent yourself. I also have depression and C-PTSD, the beatings I took were much worse than yours and I still was able to put on my big boy boots. It's time to put on your big girl boots and take some responsibility for your life. You can't sit around moping over how shitty your childhood was and tell yourself your life still sucks because of that. You have all the control and options now. But on your big girl boots and cut off the umbilical cord.

 Her parents understand that they've fucked up and she's been in therapy for awhile, maybe they aren't aware of the fact that change doesn't happen over night and could benefit from talking to her therapist as well. They're already opened to the idea of getting her help. And heynif they cut her off then maybe No-Contact would help her greatly improve but what she made clear that cares about is financial help.

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

 

 

Blanc said:

then my dad decided to tell me that he was pulling the plug on me, because he doesn't see any improvement externally and i'm not discussing what i discuss in therapy- he can't tell it's improving anything so he wants to like stop paying for it. and he also said that he wants to stop helping me financially with my apartment once the lease is up so that leaves me unable to stay there.



and i just sort of flipped out, he started ranting about the bible and stuff as usual and... i'm just sitting tehre feeling really misunderstood. i don't know how to tell him the therapy is working i just need time, and the reason i don't discuss everything i discuss in therapy yet is because i'm not ready i'm not done processing it. i tried exlaining this to my mom the other week when she got mad at me for not talking about it and telling her every detail as well. and she also threatened me with pulling th eplug on my apartment and the therapist if i didn't talk about it as well. it was stressful the way she did it and i just started crying and i told her, "i give up. i'm so tired, i just can't do this anymore." aka arguing and fighting for a way for them to support me and like me again enough to take care of things the way that would be helpful to me.

 Jesus Christ honestly if your parent weren't supportive they wouldn't have been paying for therapy for as long you've been in it, I really do think they should cut off financial help, I feel like that would help you a lot

 Nope. Her parents are worried whether she's telling the therapist the things they did to her, fear of exposure.

Blanc my cute, you should tell them whatever they want to hear in order to keep them paying for your therapy. They would deserve it since they abused you and you deserve some compensation if you will, I give you permission if you feel the need for it.

Just tell em that you're telling your therapist good things about them.

By "external progress" they don't mean signs of getting better, I think they think therapy will make you a more agreeable and malleable person because if you weren't insane you would do as they want and believe everything they say, right? Typical narc parent BS

So go ahead and play them as much as you can until you finish therapy and also seek to become independent yourself. I also have depression and C-PTSD, the beatings I took were much worse than yours and I still was able to put on my big boy boots. It's time to put on your big girl boots and take some responsibility for your life. You can't sit around moping over how shitty your childhood was and tell yourself your life still sucks because of that. You have all the control and options now. But on your big girl boots and cut off the umbilical cord.

 Her parents understand that they've fucked up and she's been in therapy for awhile, maybe they aren't aware of the fact that change doesn't happen over night and could benefit from talking to her therapist as well. They're already opened to the idea of getting her help. And heynif they cut her off then maybe No-Contact would help her greatly improve but what she made clear that cares about is financial help.

 It's quite blurry. Narc parents send their children to therapy sometimes thinking it will "fix" the child because if the child was right would they disobey the great smart narc? /s Or hoping they'll put the kid on medication that'll make em more submissive.

I can't figure out whether they think depression etc. can be fixed faster than it actually does or if they're actually seeking EXTERNAL changes that will hide the damage they did to her (making her act happier and sweeter or w.e)

Well now that I think about it, there's the third option, where they could've thought that therapy will just cover up or magically hide all the acting out and external negative traits that might reflect badly on them.

Tho I struggle to see good intentions in people ever so take my words with a grain of salt.

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

 They've literally disowned her before and forced her to get into rehab, she's been on her own and crawls back for the money. 

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

 They've literally disowned her before and forced her to get into rehab, she's been on her own and crawls back for the money. 

 Narc parents disown their kids daily and call em back when it looks like the child is ok with it but the crawling part is definitely suspicious. So is the way she says she needs to convince her pare-

I wonder if she's using therapy money to buy drugs LOL?

Man I would disown her permanently.

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

 They've literally disowned her before and forced her to get into rehab, she's been on her own and crawls back for the money. 

 Narc parents disown their kids daily and call em back when it looks like the child is ok with it but the crawling part is definitely suspicious. So is the way she says she needs to convince her pare-

I wonder if she's using therapy money to buy drugs LOL?

Man I would disown her permanently.

 >Narc parents disown their kids daily and call em back when it looks like the child is ok

Truth.

>I wonder if she's using therapy money to buy drugs LOL?

>Man I would disown her permanently.

A little too close for comfort, huh Jim? XD

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

 They've literally disowned her before and forced her to get into rehab, she's been on her own and crawls back for the money. 

 Narc parents disown their kids daily and call em back when it looks like the child is ok with it but the crawling part is definitely suspicious. So is the way she says she needs to convince her pare-

I wonder if she's using therapy money to buy drugs LOL?

Man I would disown her permanently.

 If she had just started therapy and they expected a sudden change I would agree with how she's feeling, but it's been a while ofc they want to see if she's open to talk. The fact that she talks about how they've basically tortured her (and either her sister was spared or simply didn't exist somehow) and she keeps going back and bitching about her parents forcing her to go to rehab and. The. Fucking. Wording. 

Blanc said:

i just started crying and i told her, "i give up. i'm so tired, i just can't do this anymore." aka arguing and fighting for a way for them to support me and like me again enough to take care of things the way that would be helpful to me.

 She's a fucken brat.

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Bossroach said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

Blanc's been waterpedaling in safe water for so long, maybe she needs to hit rock bottom in order to jumpstart into improving herself. 

How would this not just be drugs? 

 Even with support it's been drugs.

Just saying, she won't get better that way in particular. 

There must be an Option C. 

Sure, but her parents pay for everything, even now she's been living with them and getting money by renting out her apt as an Airbnb while her dad is still paying for it as well as her apartment. 

She wastes money on things that aren't essential and complains about her parents not wanting to support her in the ways she wants. 

Option C would be what?

Moving her to a worse property and granting less money maybe? She doesn't seem to grasp appreciation as readily, always moving on to the next thing, but this might show a sense of relative comparison. 

I dunno, I just see what isn't working. 

 Maybe she needs to take a life skills class, granting less money still has them paying her things off and she's said herself that she would rather move back in with them and be in the closet than be cut out of the money from the family business. 

Maybe it's time to give ultimatums and get-your-shit-together deadlines. They obviously care about her but they also enable her behavior. She doesn't want to get better, she enjoys her victim status

 I don't think they want her to get better or be independent either. They seem to feed off each other. Blanc refuses to grow up and can blame her parents for everything (including why she's such a loser at her age) and her parents can point at her to cover up their own shittiness (see, we're not abusing her, she's just lazy and immature blah blah). She feeds on them to remain a child and refuse to take responsibility (cuz if she did, and failed, it would be her fault instead of her parents) and they feed on her to feel like some financially capable loving good parents whose child can't survive without great strong mommy and daddy.

Psycho note: I would kill both of them if I had the chance and could get away with it. I'm very disgusted by fake victim acting childish people like this.

 They've literally disowned her before and forced her to get into rehab, she's been on her own and crawls back for the money. 

 Narc parents disown their kids daily and call em back when it looks like the child is ok with it but the crawling part is definitely suspicious. So is the way she says she needs to convince her pare-

I wonder if she's using therapy money to buy drugs LOL?

Man I would disown her permanently.

 If she had just started therapy and they expected a sudden change I woul agree with how she's feeling, but it's been a while ofc they want to see if she's open to talk. The fact that she talks about how they've basically tortured her (and either her sister was spared of simply didn't exist somehow) and she keeps going back and bitching about her parents forcing her to go to rehab and. The. Fucking. Wording. 

 

Blanc said:

i just started crying and i told her, "i give up. i'm so tired, i just can't do this anymore." aka arguing and fighting for a way for them to support me and like me again enough to take care of things the way that would be helpful to me.

 She's a fucken brat.

 She's trying to say "Give me money when I demand it" in the most manipulative and "reasonable sounding" ways yeah. She can't outright say "Give me money when I demand it" so she's trying to be clever about it but her parents are smarter than her obviously.

It's a very pragmatic and machiavellian way of thinking. "Use these emotional displays to get them to feel this and do this" grade A manipulator.

Combining this with how much she talks about being sent to rehab as if it's some sort of triggering trauma I'm inclined to believe she desperately needs drug money but knows she needs to look like she's clean to get more money out of them.

Massive sense of entitlement. She thinks she should be given money in the way that she demands as opposed to how her parents want to do it.

On a second look I would just cut her out and accept my failure as a parent. Her personality seems defective beyond repair to even take care of her from distance, just a manipulative selfish leech.