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At the end of the day, you did do exactly what I'm describing, and you keep doing it. When your position becomes difficult to defend, you repeatedly shift from reasoning to insults, condescension, vague personal attacks, and mockery. That creates the repetition you're now complaining about because the underlying issue never gets resolved.

Whether you do that because you enjoy the attention, enjoy provoking people, or simply prefer that style of interaction isn't something I need to guess about. The observable result is the same: you prioritize being insulting and theatrical over actually addressing the argument, then complain when the other person continues responding to the unresolved problem.

Dragoonback said: 

At the end of the day, you did do exactly what I'm describing,

Sure, after I already did it. And i never did anything wrong.  

and you keep doing it.

What ? Eminem ? Nah I've made my point about that. 

When your position becomes difficult to defend, you repeatedly shift from reasoning to insults, condescension, vague personal attacks, and mockery.

I don't have anything to defend. I said what I had to say. Yes Eminem's politics are hate Driven. What's there to defend ? It's true, the guy hates Trump. 

That creates the repetition you're now complaining about because the underlying issue never gets resolved.

Untrue.

Guy. Again. I'm good. Amused even. Been winning for a decade. The Lord called it, and I'm seeing it. 

Whether you do that because you enjoy the attention, enjoy provoking people, or simply prefer that style of interaction isn't something I need to guess about. The observable result is the same: you prioritize being insulting and theatrical over actually addressing the argument, then complain when the other person continues responding to the unresolved problem.

 Don't have anything more to prove. No need to argue, or debate this. I'm good.

Clinton's a villain. There are few things Nate and I agree on that's one. I'm even amazed to see the guy call it out for a change. I'm good.

Golden_Eagle said:

Sure, after I already did it. And i never did anything wrong. What? Eminem? Nah I've made my point about that.

I don't have anything to defend. I said what I had to say. Yes Eminem's politics are hate Driven. What's there to defend ? It's true, the guy hates Trump. Untrue. Guy. Again. I'm good. Amused even. Been winning for a decade. The Lord called it, and I'm seeing it. Don't have anything more to prove. No need to argue, or debate this. I'm good. Clinton's a villain. There are few things Nate and I agree on that's one. I'm even amazed to see the guy call it out for a change. I'm good.

That's exactly the distinction you're continuing to avoid. You keep saying “Eminem's politics are hate driven” as though the statement proves itself, then reduce your evidence to “the guy hates Trump.” Even if Eminem hates Trump, that still doesn't establish that hatred is what drives his politics. You're treating two different claims as though they're interchangeable.

And saying you have “nothing to defend” doesn't make the claim self-evident. You made a claim about Eminem's political motives, so there is something to establish if you want it treated as more than an assertion. “I'm good,” “I'm amused,” and “I've been winning for a decade” aren't evidence either.

The same applies to Clinton. Repeating “Clinton's a villain” and saying Nate agrees with you doesn't establish why Clinton qualifies as a villain or what standard you're using. Agreement is not proof.

And I don't think you're “good” in the sense you're implying either. A lot of the positions and rhetoric you've repeatedly expressed are, in my view, pro-oppression. You defend coercive punishment, hierarchy, deprivation, and restricting other people's autonomy when they don't conform to what you think they should be. You also repeatedly use degrading language toward people you dislike and treat their suffering or humiliation as something to joke about or justify. Calling yourself “good,” “winning,” or “amused” doesn't establish the opposite.

So the unresolved issue remains exactly where it was: you've asserted conclusions about Eminem and Clinton, but you haven't demonstrated the criteria or evidence that would establish them. And your own self-assessment doesn't settle the question of whether the ideas and behavior you're promoting are actually good.

Yes. I said it again. 

What am I avoiding  ? Arguing ? Sure. There's no need for me to do that. I'm too uplifted at the moment. 

There isn't anything worth arguing. I said what I said, you wanted more, I gave you a little more. You want to argue. Meh. 

I'm not changing my mind. lol Biden. So funny. 

That's your choice, but it doesn't make “Eminem's politics are hate driven” established. You said Eminem hates Trump, and then treated that as though it proves the broader claim about what drives his politics. It doesn't.

The same goes for “Clinton's a villain.” Repeating the conclusion and saying you're not interested in arguing about it doesn't establish the standard you're using or why it applies to Clinton.

So I'm not expecting you to change your mind. I'm pointing out that you've chosen assertion over justification. “I said what I said” is a statement of your position, not evidence for it.

So what are Eminem's politics driven by. 

And what are his politics ?

Peace and love ? Make the world a better place ? Vague stuff I presume ?

Also what was good about Kamala Harris policies ?

And Hillary Clinton, what did she have ?

You made the claim that Eminem's politics are “hate driven,” so you have the burden of showing that. I don't need to invent some alternative theory about what is supposedly in his head in order to point out that “he hates Trump” doesn't establish it.

And no, I don't need to claim that Eminem's politics are some vague “peace and love” ideology either. Political opposition can be driven by specific disagreements about policies, institutions, social issues, or the conduct of political figures. You haven't established that hatred is the primary basis of his politics simply by showing that he strongly dislikes Trump.

As for Kamala and Hillary, that's another deflection. Whether I think their policies were good, bad, or mediocre doesn't establish anything about whether Eminem's politics are hate-driven. You're trying to make me defend every politician he might have supported instead of supporting your own claim about his motives.

If you think Eminem's politics are hate-driven, explain what evidence distinguishes that from ordinary political opposition and condemnation. “He hates Trump” isn't enough.

You say what Eminem's politics are not, but you cannot say what they are. 

Mhm.

I asked about that, because I know for sure, Kamala has nothing.