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That's not how the burden of proof works. You claimed Eminem's politics are “hate driven,” so you need to establish that claim. I don't have to provide a complete theory of what every part of his political outlook is driven by in order to point out that your evidence doesn't establish hatred as the driving force.

And I'm not saying Eminem's politics are “peace and love,” nor am I claiming he has some perfectly coherent political philosophy. I'm saying that “he hates Trump” does not logically entail “his politics are driven by hate.” There are plenty of possible reasons someone can strongly oppose a political figure without hatred being the defining basis of their politics.

Asking me what I think his politics are doesn't answer the question. If you can't distinguish “he strongly opposes Trump” from “his politics are fundamentally hate driven,” then you've established the first claim and simply asserted the second.

And whether you think Kamala or Hillary had good policies is a separate issue. Their policies don't somehow become relevant evidence for your claim about what motivates Eminem.

I did establish the claim, and I showed why.

Who wants to argue Eminem doesn't hate Trump with a passion ?

Nobody is arguing that Eminem doesn't strongly dislike Trump. That isn't the point.

You're still conflating “Eminem hates Trump” with “Eminem's politics are hate driven.” The first can be true without the second following from it. Someone can intensely dislike a politician because they believe that politician is racist, authoritarian, dishonest, or otherwise harmful. The intensity of the opposition doesn't establish that hatred is the underlying basis of their political outlook.

So when you say you “established the claim,” what you've actually established is the much narrower claim that Eminem strongly dislikes Trump. You still haven't shown why that means hatred is what drives his politics generally.

Of course his politics are hate driven. When was the last time you saw him come out and support voting for anyone ?

Never.

Guy said fuck you to half his fans. That is hate. 

Flicked off half his fans and said fuck you too. 

Over politics. 

Guy is cursing people who love and admire him and made him rich. Hate driven. Nothing to prove.  

You're still proving the same narrower point and pretending it's the broader one. Eminem can hate Trump, curse at fans who support him, and even tell political opponents to fuck off without that establishing that his politics are fundamentally “hate driven.”

You're treating any expression of hostility as proof that hostility is the underlying basis of someone's politics. That's not enough. People can strongly oppose politicians and political movements because they regard them as racist, harmful, authoritarian, or otherwise unacceptable. Rejecting people over political values isn't automatically evidence that hatred is the person's political motive.

And “he never told people who to vote for” doesn't establish anything either. Not endorsing a specific candidate doesn't imply that someone has no political principles beyond hatred.

I also doubt your “half his fans” claim is established. You haven't shown any evidence that anywhere near half of Eminem's fanbase rejected him over this. At most, you've shown that some fans objected to his politics. The loudest or most media-illiterate people reacting to him don't necessarily represent half his audience.

So yes, you've shown that Eminem expresses strong hostility toward Trump and that some fans disliked his political stance. You still haven't shown that this hostility is what fundamentally drives his politics. You're just repeating the conclusion and pointing to hostility as though the conclusion were contained in the fact of hostility itself.