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Dragoonback said: 

Turncoat said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

You say what Eminem's politics are not, but you cannot say what they are. 

Mhm.

It's arguably the easier question. 

I'm sure I could ramble a million things about what your politics aren't, while saying what they are might stand to be corrected. 

For example you are not a Clownish Post Modernist, nor are you a Jewish Philanthropist. 

I don't think that's quite what I was arguing. I wasn't saying “you can't tell me exactly what Eminem's politics are, therefore Spatial's claim is false.” I was pointing out that Spatial made a positive claim about Eminem's political motivation, specifically that his politics are “hate driven,” and then treated “he hates Trump” as though that established it.

Wouldn't it make more sense to then discuss what his politics actually are, with the aid of referenceable sources? 

I'm not required to provide a complete description of Eminem's entire political ideology just because I reject an unsupported claim about what supposedly drives it. Those are two different things. You could list a hundred things someone's politics aren't without establishing what they are, but that isn't what I'm doing here.

If you aim to actually shut him up or prove something, then a source in spite of the burden of proof being on him is liable to make him overreach that much more than he already has. 

If he won't agree with you, at least he might reveal why not. 

The relevant question is whether the evidence Spatial gave actually supports the specific claim that hatred is the driving force behind Eminem's politics. So far, it establishes that Eminem strongly dislikes Trump and has expressed hostility toward some political opponents. That's not the same proposition.

Eminem hates the upper class. 

It's that simple. 

Golden_Eagle said: 

 

We don't see right wingers violating statues of founding fathers.

Trump's doing it right now. 

And it was the left who were offended by Aunt Jemima and wanted the graphic removed from the bottles. Same with Uncle Ben. These ideologies also go with calling for a ban on certain subjects taught in school.

Some black people do call for the removal of black history too, as it create a victim mindset, where the left wing negro thinks white people should pay reparations for what happened in the past.

Yes lets just write history out of education, so the future can be ignorant of it and work from a clean slate. 

That's not how it works. 

Eminem's views on Trump are typical of the brainwashing. He mentions Trump is a racist, and supports the KKK, all of which are false.

We've literally seen Trump do these things across his lifetime, even pre-presidency. He learned it from his racist father. 

Eminem's biggest gripes with Trump is... Racism, KKK support and wanting immigrants to go. But there is a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants. 

If it were a leftist, he'd fight back too, but the right makes it about race while the left says it's simply unfortunate via equality. 

Illegal immigrants should be allow to stay in the country longer than welcome.

Agreed, they should totally be allowed to stay longer. 

They are not tax payers and do not support you Nathan. If the world could just walk into the US and live for free off the backs of the working Americans, that would divide us as a species where the world can just more to the US and the working class will pay for those who do nothing but collect free food and money without citizenship. 

They typically contribute more money towards the US government than those who are actual Americans quote-unquote. 

You're turning away free money for the government to support a few racists having better income. 

Hard to imagine a guy preaching The Struggle being a fan of The Epstein Class though. I could imagine a similar sentiment made by him over leftist oligarchs. Not even a big Eminem fan but come on, look at his focus. It's not pure hate, it's struggle, a matter of economic context lending to strife in life. For those who don't want struggle to be fixated on and would prefer to sweep it under the rug as if ignorance was the solution to equality, they will see Eminem and many others like him as a hater, especially if they're all rich and posh and shit insofar as to have never truly struggled a day in their lives. 

His estimated net worth is 260-300 million.

And yet he still has the integrity to hate the upper class. 

Good for him. 

When people are that rich, it really doesn't matter whos in office. For everyday people change matters. Just about anyone will walk Eminem's path intentionally to achieve that kind of financial freedom. 

The guy hates the upper class, and finds happiness in raising a family. 

You trying to say him being rich means he can't hate on the upper class? I'm sorry to say, but you need to really give a closer eye on the rap industry then, as Eminem is mostly an oddity for being white. 

That's not to say a billionaire doesn't work hard, just not as hard as someone hauling ass every day.

They don't, they have the funds to have others do it for them. 

What drugs are you on as to assume the upper class struggles even remotely like the lower class? Does Blanc seem like a hard worker to you? 

Woke ideology is demanding of others. Crossing boundaries. I personally don't think you should use the ladies Room Nate. That may offend you, but it's women who don't want you in there you can take it up with them, I just agree. 

Literally nothing we've been talking about has been about where to take a shit. 

Weird tangent honestly, do you have a toilet fixation? 

People are free to crossdress and be artistic with their sexuality all they want, but don't start marching around insisting the world addresses you based on your preference while saying you're coming for "other people's" children cause you'd like more queer people. The majority finds that perverted, and historically, we do not expose children to sexuality until they're of age.

Then they are not as free as they want to be. 

There will be those who are polite enough to address someone by their preferred title, and then those who refuse. It's a question of freedom more than politics when even the right wing will do that over stuff like saying 'this black guy is actually white'. 

Gender dysphoria is a disorder.

So we should diss it because of that? 

I don't see that as how we're handling ADD, which is arguably doing a lot more damage. 

What comes with a disorder is disorderly, sure there's the argument of acceptance and inclusion but that's a fancy way for men to rob women.

Uh? 

So being nice to people with disorders is against feminism? 

Wtf? 

We're not concerned about manginas making the cut or entering public washroom for men, other way around raises safety and decency concerns.

If the man has chopped his dick off, he's not going to rape women as people might otherwise expect. For fucks sake the loss of hormones reduce muscle mass. 

At the very least they'd be an exception to the trans norm, and hormones stop erections in their tracks for the majority of MtF. How do you fuck a woman without an erection? 

The fear makes no sense, and is on par with men fearing FtM using their bathrooms. Do you seriously think men expect this vaginal pseudo-man to fuck them in the stalls? 

Another thing, it's not going to normalize.

It already is, just slower than the woke movement wanted. 

Deal with it. 

Transgenders can only hook up with queer people, which in all honesty is fine.

You have defined people who'd be with a trans person as queer, so this is a nonstatement. A formerly non-queer choosing to be with a trans person, to you, would suddenly be queer. 

Straight people are straight and the majority is that

They want to commit to the breeding act often without actually wanting a child, so fucking a tranny is similar to fucking a woman on birth control. 

What's the difference if there's no risk of a baby either way? 

hence the survival of our species.

We're an invasive species overpopulating the planet, we don't need help. 

A transgender will live a life of unacceptance and complaints of homophobia in terms of hookups and dating. Though I don't know why they call it a phobia, it's not fear, it's selection and everyone should be free to have preferences on what gender they sleep with. 

It's a fear, they feel physically uncomfortable around them.