It seems obvious Dragoon is feeding responses to an LLM. ...A lot of implications I'm waiting to see which is taken first.
Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
What makes my claims factual is what I wrote before you responded. That hasn't changed. As a matter fact you are a doom poster. No one here would argue that. You're also miserable which is most likely the key driving force of your consistent poo flinging.
Yes, everything I've said is factual. Stamped and approved and on display before I even mentioned it here.
Repeating that your claims are “factual” does not make them facts. Calling me miserable, weak, unintelligent, or deluded is still interpretation and insult, not verification. Your Gen Z point also confuses age and experience with wisdom. Experience can produce wisdom, but it can also produce entrenched error; regret only proves someone had more time to make regrettable choices.
You also misdefine nihilism. It does not require having no preferences, values, judgments, or practical standards. It rejects objective or inherent value. I can still judge your reasoning without contradicting that. “Nothing created you” is not my position either. Nothing is not an entity capable of creating anything. Life was not necessarily “created” in the purposeful sense you imply; it emerged and was shaped through chemistry, evolution, environmental conditions, and the physical forces governing matter. None of that demonstrates an intentional creator or an inherent purpose.
Supporting abortion and opposing compulsory reproduction does not make me a feminist, emasculated, afraid of women, or opposed to heterosexual relationships. Those are traits you inferred and then declared factual. Likewise, “only someone superior can assert superiority” is circular; anyone can claim superiority.
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It seems obvious Dragoon is feeding responses to an LLM. ...A lot of implications I'm waiting to see which is taken first.
If he is he's feeding it snippets as his stance is below a public LLM's guardrails.
What makes my claims factual is what I wrote before you responded. That hasn't changed. As a matter fact you are a doom poster. No one here would argue that. You're also miserable which is most likely the key driving force of your consistent poo flinging.
Yes, everything I've said is factual. Stamped and approved and on display before I even mentioned it here.
Repeating that your claims are “factual” does not make them facts.
Read the underline in that paragraph.
Calling me miserable, weak, unintelligent, or deluded is still interpretation and insult, not verification.
Sure I'd be insulted too, but I'm not saying those things to insult you. You're actually all of those things. That's why you endlessly tremble in your sleep about capitalism. You're hate driven. That's psychological weakness. Not strength.
Last month we talked about foxes eating rabbits, you whined how it's not fair cause the rabbit doesn't give the fox any consent to eat it. That's some snowflake talk right there.
Your Gen Z point also confuses age and experience with wisdom. Experience can produce wisdom, but it can also produce entrenched error; regret only proves someone had more time to make regrettable choices.
What the hell is "entrenched error" supposed to be ? Sounds like you're saying experience can produce a jackass or something.
Failure to correct oneself and make the same mistakes over and over again means the subject is obtuse.
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Wisdom is gained. Key word, gained.
Excuse me. Gonna have to throw the book at you since you can't accept higher learning directly from yours truly.
"Wisdom is gained through experience, self- reflection, and learning from mistakes, with many emphasizing the importance of silence, mentorship, and empathy. Found a wisdom deeper than myself in the silence of the mind."
Learning from mistakes = Regret.
Regrets are mistakes. ( You're showcasing an inability to understand this. Ask me if I'm surprised. )
You also misdefine nihilism. It does not require having no preferences, values, judgments, or practical standards. It rejects objective or inherent value. I can still judge your reasoning without contradicting that.
Again. Cause you can't take it from me.
"Nihilism is the philosophical belief that life lacks inherent meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Originating from the Latin nihil (meaning "nothing"), it asserts that objective truths, morality, and knowledge are either nonexistent or fundamentally unattainable."
With that I reckon the nihilist club would see a form of weakness in you too.
“Nothing created you” is not my position either. Nothing is not an entity capable of creating anything. Life was not necessarily “created” in the purposeful sense you imply; it emerged and was shaped through chemistry, evolution, environmental conditions, and the physical forces governing matter. None of that demonstrates an intentional creator or an inherent purpose.
Scientific theory, is still theory. To believe in a theory is faith.
That upsets atheists, cause they like to argue the theory of evolution as scientific fact. There's something called the missing link, or links. That being no evidence between us and some old monkey bones.
This doesn't mean I'm dismissing science either, it just shows how I understand it better than you, and what theory actually is.
Before time and space existed, the only thing that could've caused movement to create a spark where no time and space existed, is a self collapsing wave function. And a self collapsing wave function is a mind. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. The big bang theory is also a theory, and what baffles science is what the hell could have caused it when there was no substance, no space, no time.
But yes. You don't believe in a creator, therefore nothing manifested all of this.
Was life not done on purpose ? It's been said that if 1 person had to write DNA code, it would take them 50 years. Code more advanced than all our software combined, we have never wrote anything on this level. And it happened countless times on this spec of dust we live on with various species of plants animals and insects. Creatures playing a vital role in the survival of other species.
The odds of a tornado building, painting, and furnishing a house is greater than what's going on here. Science is also stumped how anything could've been alive in the first place.
The DNA is like software. The genome is a blueprint for DNA to strong together and weave a living fetus which will grow into things like you and I, and that dog down the street.
You really have faith from these theories form the 1800's eh ? That they had it all figured out.
Beware of popular science too. NIST lied about WTC7, leaving scientists and engineers disgusted with how full of shit a government science agency is.
Supporting abortion and opposing compulsory reproduction does not make me a feminist, emasculated, afraid of women, or opposed to heterosexual relationships. Those are traits you inferred and then declared factual. Likewise, “only someone superior can assert superiority” is circular; anyone can claim superiority.
No one said you're afraid of women. I said you're afraid to have sex with them. You wouldn't suck the tis off an infertile woman for fear of impregnating her. You like tits, you like ass, but you're too chicken. Fearful.
You're not even gonna have a sex robot. Only people able to afford them will get them if they want it cause remember, you're not the type to bring home the kill.
Imagine if all men were like that ? Women would have a meltdown and our species would cease to exist. Your stance on women is another form of weakness.
You should also thank me for placing you in front of a mirror, cause if you're ever to improve, it can't be done with sweet tea. If only you could impress me.
Scientific theory, is still theory. To believe in a theory is faith.
That upsets atheists, cause they like to argue the theory of evolution as scientific fact. There's something called the missing link, or links. That being no evidence between us and some old monkey bones.
This doesn't mean I'm dismissing science either, it just shows how I understand it better than you, and what theory actually is.
Before time and space existed, the only thing that could've caused movement to create a spark where no time and space existed, is a self collapsing wave function. And a self collapsing wave function is a mind. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. The big bang theory is also a theory, and what baffles science is what the hell could have caused it when there was no substance, no space, no time.
But yes. You don't believe in a creator, therefore nothing manifested all of this.
Was life not done on purpose ? It's been said that if 1 person had to write DNA code, it would take them 50 years. Code more advanced than all our software combined, we have never wrote anything on this level. And it happened countless times on this spec of dust we live on with various species of plants animals and insects. Creatures playing a vital role in the survival of other species.
The odds of a tornado building, painting, and furnishing a house is greater than what's going on here. Science is also stumped how anything could've been alive in the first place.
The DNA is like software. The genome is a blueprint for DNA to strong together and weave a living fetus which will grow into things like you and I, and that dog down the street.
“Stamped and approved” is not evidence; it is another assertion. Calling me miserable, weak, unintelligent, or deluded remains interpretation, ad hominem, and irrelevant of correctness regardless of your stated intent. Experience can improve judgment, but age and regret do not do so automatically; regret is not the same as learning. Your own definition of nihilism supports my point: rejecting objective meaning does not prevent subjective preferences, practical standards, or criticism. There is also no “nihilist club” whose approval I require.
A scientific theory is not a guess. Evolution is supported by genetics, fossils, and observed biological change; the “missing link” objection misrepresents evolution as a single chain. Unresolved questions about abiogenesis do not prove a creator, and comparing DNA to software is analogy rather than evidence. Using my tokophobia as proof of weakness is equally illogical. Avoiding reproduction reduces material burdens, dependence on social structures, and the continuation of suffering through samsara. You define your own preferences as strength and label disagreement as inferiority, but that does not constitute truth or sound reasoning.
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It seems obvious Dragoon is feeding responses to an LLM. ...A lot of implications I'm waiting to see which is taken first.
Using an LLM to organize my wording does not affect whether the claims are correct. “A lot of implications” is vague; clarify what you meant. Given your talk of “building bridges,” I also wonder whether your concern is the method or my nihilistic conclusions.
Spatial Mind said:If he is he's feeding it snippets as his stance is below a public LLM's guardrails.
My stance is not “below a public LLM’s guardrails.” Nihilism and misanthropy can be discussed directly; guardrails concern harmful conduct, not merely pessimistic conclusions.
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aren't you like the OG nihilist? what happened
Anti-Nihilist.
No reason to go on other than finding pleasure in life, somehow, and those pleasures are becoming that much more inaccessible.
it's a bit difficult to infuse meaning, if you think you will be atoms splayed on the concrete. i do actually resonate with the trope, although sometimes i wonder if it's just because i have a functional brodmann area 10. well, despite the situation, it is still possible to create good moments in this life. we will be dead anyways, if you can divorce the terror of the situation, there are redeeming aspects. and maybe if we are lucky there is god or some dmt elves
and maybe if we are lucky there is god or some dmt elves
I would consider that unlucky. Maybe not if the elves are femboys or if God is a femboy and even that wouldn't make sense to last forever. Sort of like how I imagined versions of pagan Gods as femboys including the Norse ones who were not considered to be eternally lasting.
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It seems obvious Dragoon is feeding responses to an LLM. ...A lot of implications I'm waiting to see which is taken first.
Using an LLM to organize my wording does not affect whether the claims are correct. “A lot of implications” is vague; clarify what you meant. Given your talk of “building bridges,” I also wonder whether your concern is the method or my nihilistic conclusions.
Huh. You must be feeding it a large corpus of our material outside of this thread? That's an added implication.
Well, my thoughts were obviously first that you would find it more useful to express your thoughts in a manner you think explains better. But is it more "I would have thought this anyway, but couldn't say it" or "this is just better than what I could do" (though I wonder if it's going to make everyone lazy or engineer themselves more like this). My concern, however, is that you should have just said that, because without communicating this it seems more disingenuous, you know? I think it is a worthwhile use of the tool if that is simply what it is. So I guess it was a method question, and wondering where you feel on the consequences.
And about nihilism, I'm just more willing to be agnostic. I have no opinion on it that I probably haven't shared about it already.
Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
Huh. You must be feeding it a large corpus of our material outside of this thread? That's an added implication.
Well, my thoughts were obviously first that you would find it more useful to express your thoughts in a manner you think explains better. But is it more "I would have thought this anyway, but couldn't say it" or "this is just better than what I could do" (though I wonder if it's going to make everyone lazy or engineer themselves more like this). My concern, however, is that you should have just said that, because without communicating this it seems more disingenuous, you know? I think it is a worthwhile use of the tool if that is simply what it is. So I guess it was a method question, and wondering where you feel on the consequences.
And about nihilism, I'm just more willing to be agnostic. I have no opinion on it that I probably haven't shared about it already.
I do not remember every detail I initially provided, but it has mostly been material from this thread, along with context and points I already remembered. I did not give it enough context at first because I was still learning how to use the tool, but I have since allowed it to build a clearer understanding of the discussion.
I use it to organize my thoughts, reduce ambiguity, and make my position harder to distort or exploit. The views are still mine; the AI helps me express them more clearly and consistently. Given how often discussions with SM shift into personal degradation and derailment, I do not consider using a tool to make my wording less vulnerable disingenuous. If AI helps people communicate more precisely and makes them harder to manipulate or take advantage of, I consider that beneficial.
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