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Dismissing my perspective as 'fabrications' without offering any evidence to the contrary isn't a rebuttal; it's a way to avoid a real debate. If you truly believe the truth dispels my position, you should be able to articulate why. Simply insulting my intelligence suggests you're more interested in posturing than in actual truth.

 Sure.

The post I made, is not an argument. I told a story, and added to the thread in terms of "giving up"

The very paragraph you call an argument. Clearly isn't one. 

This is painfully obvious, is it not ? Yes it is, It's all written here. 

You claim my so called argument is some attempt to validate personal resentment. Meanwhile I'm writing about being at peace with detaching from someone I love unconditionally. The rest of your "perspective" is as deluded. It's certainly without a doubt 100% a fabrication. 

If you'd like to start a debate, you'll have to increase your intelligence. Not just saying that. You're so far off, I'll have to make shit up to entertain your reply. I'd rather not lower my frequency to accommodate shit that has absolutely nothing to do with me. 

You're missing the point. If I'm already at peace and feel validated in my decision, I have no reason to seek validation from an online debate. I shared a story and my own observations; if you perceive those as an argument that requires a rebuttal, that is your projection, not my intent. Dismissing an analysis as delusion or fabrication simply because it doesn't align with your narrative isn't a critique; it is just a refusal to engage. I'm not looking to lower the frequency of this conversation to match insults, so I will leave it at that.

 You "feel validated" but the truth is working against you. 

You magically observed that I was arguing with someone. Nope. 

Like you have to argue with someone for it to be an argument in the first place. 

I told a story, and now you say you told a story. The difference, my story is real, while yours, is for the sake of slandering.

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 You "feel validated" but the truth is working against you. 

You magically observed that I was arguing with someone. Nope. 

Like you have to argue with someone for it to be an argument in the first place. 

I told a story, and now you say you told a story. The difference, my story is real, while yours, is for the sake of slandering.

Calling an analysis 'slander' is a way to avoid addressing the content of what was written. You shared a story publicly; by doing so, you invite others to interpret, analyze, and discuss the themes within it. That is the nature of a public thread, not an act of slander. I have no personal stake in your story, so there is no motive for me to 'slander' you. We simply see the nature of discussion differently; I view it as an opportunity to exchange perspectives, while you seem to view any outside observation as a personal affront.

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 You "feel validated" but the truth is working against you. 

You magically observed that I was arguing with someone. Nope. 

Like you have to argue with someone for it to be an argument in the first place. 

I told a story, and now you say you told a story. The difference, my story is real, while yours, is for the sake of slandering.

Calling an analysis 'slander' is a way to avoid addressing the content of what was written.

Your "analysis" is incorrect and proceeds to spirals off into the unknown.

Was I arguing ? No. You say I was, then you take it from there wandering around in the dark taking swings. 

Honestly, if I had to handle you another way, I'd be forced to match your bullshit, Start throwing out low energy buzzwords, start crying and saying, "you you you, because this and this" but I prefer being right in the eyes of observers, as I am here. No one feels the need to help me, while if they sided with you at this point they'd... Probably be treated as a lesser person. 

 

You shared a story publicly; by doing so, you invite others to interpret, analyze, and discuss the themes within it. That is the nature of a public thread, not an act of slander. I have no personal stake in your story, so there is no motive for me to 'slander' you. We simply see the nature of discussion differently; I view it as an opportunity to exchange perspectives, while you seem to view any outside observation as a personal affront.

 Yes, and I also reserve the ability to measure dim people and give them the break down. In the grand scheme I'm the one with any substance.  

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 Yes, and I also reserve the ability to measure dim people and give them the break down. In the grand scheme I'm the one with any substance.  

You are fixated on 'being right' and measuring the intelligence of others, which tells me you are far more interested in social posturing than in a discussion. Calling an interpretation 'bullshit' is a convenient way to dismiss any perspective that challenges your own. I am not looking to win an audience or judge anyone’s 'substance'; I am simply pointing out that public posts invite public analysis. Furthermore, your focus on who has 'substance' is ultimately hollow. In the grand scheme, nothing lasts forever and no one retains their status, making such measurements of superiority meaningless. If you view a difference of opinion as a personal affront, that is a choice you are making.

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 Yes, and I also reserve the ability to measure dim people and give them the break down. In the grand scheme I'm the one with any substance.  

You are fixated on 'being right' and measuring the intelligence of others, which tells me you are far more interested in social posturing than in a discussion.

I reckon the one interested in social posturing writes less. 

Actually, I'm far more interested in telling a true story and shedding light on a good reason to "Give in to Giving up". That is the topic here. 

With you I'm forced to measure your intelligence while your output is off subject. I tell true stories, a few personal opinions, and wisdom as to why we should give up sometimes. This somehow triggered you.  

When I let go, even if it's someone I love, I do it without resentment, but with grace. It also takes a very long time for me to cut people loose as this is not something I intend to do. The idea is to maintain good mental health. None of this matches your accusations.

 

Calling an interpretation 'bullshit' is a convenient way to dismiss any perspective that challenges your own.

Affirmative. 

Interpretations do not default to being correct,

It's convenient to dismiss trash too. Your perspective doesn't challenge my own, as I AM the man in the true story of tolerance, then letting go later than sooner.  

To be clair, I put up with people's bullshit, and I keep them for awhile. Finally I give up, and somehow you find something wrong with me. 

Speaking from experience, I can assure you're a moron motivated by rage, so your perspective isn't really one, but more of a fabrication. You'll lie to yourself, then complain when you can't dismantle the truth. 

By the way. Truth isn't a personal thing. Thinking so leads to mass delusion. 

I am not looking to win an audience or judge anyone’s 'substance'; I am simply pointing out that public posts invite public analysis. Furthermore, your focus on who has 'substance' is ultimately hollow.

Now you're being dismissive of yourself and narrowing down your messages here to just that. That works for me.  

 

In the grand scheme, nothing lasts forever and no one retains their status, making such measurements of superiority meaningless.

Well I'm living in the now. I'm alive now and the world is still turning in a Universe that's carrying on with us included. 

Nothing lasts forever. That's your theme and it's gotten very old. Not lasting forever is very fortunate for you, so you'll anticipate the end though it's more likely when you pass away the world won't notice it and carry on for more lifetimes than you can imagine. 

Some believe in God and an afterlife. Some believe we came from nothing, that nothing created us, and you will return to your creator, which is nothing and be nothing, and that's better. 

 

If you view a difference of opinion as a personal affront, that is a choice you are making.

If I view a difference of opinion as a personal affront, then sure. That isn't the case though. I could've said anything and still find some people retarded. And I don't just go around waiting to belittle people. I want good brain food. 

Your opinion comes from within. What's already there. I'm sure most people don't see you as an excellent judge either.

 

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Writing less does not mean you are not posturing. Repeated claims about your intelligence, superiority, and how humiliated or enraged others supposedly are still amount to posturing, not evidence.

I connected parts of your post more broadly than necessary, but that does not affect the main point. Your personal example of eventually giving up on someone for your mental health was coherent. What does not follow is that every interpretation you attach to it is objectively true, or that insulting whoever disagrees with you proves anything.

Your Gen Z claim is also unsupported. Younger people are obviously less experienced in the literal sense, but that does not make an entire generation less wise or wrong. You also never establish what “social engineering” means here, when it began, or how it proves your conclusion.

As for nihilism, saying the world will continue after I die does not refute it. Humanity, Earth, and the universe are also temporary. Extending the timescale does not create permanence, purpose, or objective meaning.

The world not noticing my death is not humiliating to me because I never claimed it should. It is consistent with my position. “Living in the now” likewise does not establish inherent meaning; temporary things can matter subjectively without possessing objective purpose.

Your personal attacks, generational generalizations, and remarks about my death still do not constitute truth, intelligence, or evidence of either.

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Writing less does not mean you are not posturing.

In this case it does. I had a lot to say, and it's all factual with substance, while you're shit doesn't sustain very well plus you don't actually have anything to say, except fling poo as usual. This whole conversation is nonsense tbh. 

 

Repeated claims about your intelligence, superiority, and how humiliated or enraged others supposedly are still amount to posturing, not evidence.

I haven't done anything of the sort though I did comment on your lack of intelligence. That's nothing new. 

 

I connected parts of your post more broadly than necessary, but that does not affect the main point. Your personal example of eventually giving up on someone for your mental health was coherent. What does not follow is that every interpretation you attach to it is objectively true, or that insulting whoever disagrees with you proves anything.

I told you I wasn't trying to insult you. Even you yourself claim to be kinda dumb often enough.  Seems like you're admitting to error. Things should make more sense, though we want to talk about how I responded to your error. 

I simply wasn't in the mood to lower my standard. Never am. 

 

Your Gen Z claim is also unsupported. Younger people are obviously less experienced in the literal sense, but that does not make an entire generation less wise or wrong. You also never establish what “social engineering” means here, when it began, or how it proves your conclusion.

Of course GenZ is the least wise. Wisdom comes with age and experience. Nothing to have a hissy fit over. 

 

As for nihilism, saying the world will continue after I die does not refute it. Humanity, Earth, and the universe are also temporary. Extending the timescale does not create permanence, purpose, or objective meaning.

Sure. But I'll just enjoy life while I'm here instead of being a miserable little fuck like someone. BBQ's and parties, and friends and family. Business and ideas and other ventures. Some nice ass, games and technology. Make some loot. Fucking Ai ? Awesome ! Talk to you fuckers. I'm looking and feeling great, getting plenty of comments from those around me. I'm glowing. Something big is about to happen, I can feel it, again. Other day I took a stroll to the plaza, and I'm standing by the sidewalk looking down the street, and some car with these fat chicks pulling into the plaza said "take your shirt off". Ah. Another self esteem boost. Papa John's just opened a branch by me, yeah I'll try. I'm got a large grand opening special with 12 toppings for $12.99. Bacon, Italian Sausage, Green Pepper, Anchovies, Pepperoni, extra cheese ( this was double ). Walking home with my pizza box on a beautiful summer evening. Had some crazy ass Ice Tea I made while enjoying my pizza watching you clowns and youtube videos on my 64 inch Bravia on my flagship build.  I can upgrade if I wish, but I don't have to. 5090 only has a measly 32GB on board memory, that's not enough for my local Ai. I don't play triple A games anymore. I want the DGX station.

Minus the DGX station, I'm enjoying simple things everyone can enjoy. I'm happy. It's gonna end but that's A O K 

Guy. I'm not anticipating the destruction of humanity. Don't want to live like this forever, but I'm not sad. I'm really really not sad, and I heard you say "It's all for nothing.... It's gonna end.... There's no point to any of this...." hundreds of times now.

So when you come to me and you're like "The worlds gonna end and it'll be great !" I'll say good. I don't feel the doom and gloom though, and I'm glad I'm not the one having to repeat it over and over again. Must've been over a year and the best you've got is "It'll all end". That's no secret. Shit happens every day, but not everything that happens is shit. 

 

The world not noticing my death is not humiliating to me because I never claimed it should. It is consistent with my position. “Living in the now” likewise does not establish inherent meaning; temporary things can matter subjectively without possessing objective purpose.

I know we have purpose. Not trying to force that on anyone, but I know for sure. It isn't blind faith either.  

Weakness doesn't impress me, nor does it humiliate you. It's no skin off my back.  

 

Your personal attacks, generational generalizations, and remarks about my death still do not constitute truth, intelligence, or evidence of either.

 Sure it does. 

- The younger generations are the least experienced, while wisdom comes with age and experience. Nothing beats learning the hard way and they have a long way to go. 

- Remarks about your death ? I just said when you're gone, the world will "probably" carry on, and it won't feel a thing when you're gone. 

- The world will carry on for many generations when we're gone. I can't confirm this, but probably. The odds of humanity coming to an end anytime soon is pretty slim. 

- You don't particularly want to die, that isn't enough. You want us all to die and fall into instinction. And why ? Cause life is hard, and painful, and you're suffering ( I honestly think your suffering is self inflicted. When you're dumb it's a failure to renegotiate your own state of being so your life will be filled with calamity )

- You're weak. Yes very weak. Weak mentally and probably weak physically. You look scrawny ( Got your pic ) like an antifa member. Activist. Emasculated. Nothing to look forward to. Miserable. Afraid of having sex with women. You like to be the little spoon. Fatherless. You live in California. You're woke. To you a happy hederosexual couple means the man is taking advantage of the woman and forcing her to breed. You're pro-choice. You're a radical feminist, meanwhile most women are pro life. 

If it were the stone age you'd be toast. No one to protect you. No government. You wouldn't be able to bring home the kill. You hate those who protect you. 

For sure you'll feel choked out when you come across someone like me. You're on a different frequency and when I see you're output sometimes I will totally be dismissive, because I want to keep my energy, not yours. 

You can say I'm making this up or being creative, but I'm not the miserable one. You are. 

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0 votes RE: Giving In To Giving Up; Why Do It?

Most of this is autobiography, status display, and a fictional profile of me rather than a response to what I said. Saying your claims are “factual with substance” does not make them so. Calling me unintelligent while insisting you are not insulting me is also transparently contradictory. My briefly narrowing an earlier interpretation does not validate the rest of your claims. “Younger people have less experience” is obvious. “Therefore Gen Z is uniformly the least wise” does not follow. Age can provide opportunities to gain wisdom, but people can also accumulate prejudice, rigidity, and repeated error. Experience is not automatically converted into wisdom.

Your long description of enjoying pizza, technology, attention, money, sex, friends, and entertainment does not conflict with nihilism. You are describing subjective enjoyment. I have never claimed that people cannot enjoy temporary experiences. I have said that enjoyment does not establish objective or permanent purpose.

Recognizing that extinction and impermanence are inevitable is not the same as feeling constant doom, nor does preferring eventual nonexistence require being unable to enjoy anything now. Likewise, I do not label myself a feminist. Supporting abortion as necessary healthcare and supporting a woman’s ability to opt out of reproduction does not automatically entail every political and psychological belief you assigned to me. You invented an ideological character and then attacked it.

The comments about my body, masculinity, sexuality, family, location, physical survival, and supposed fear of women have no bearing on whether your claims are true. They are humiliation tactics intended to replace analysis with a hierarchy in which you appoint yourself healthy, strong, desirable, and enlightened while assigning me the opposite traits. That may be emotionally satisfying, but it does not constitute truth or intelligence. It only demonstrates how heavily your argument depends on asserting personal superiority whenever the actual claims are challenged.

last edit on 7/13/2026 9:00:50 PM
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Most of this is autobiography, status display, and a fictional profile of me rather than a response to what I said.

That's your opinion. Mine remains. 

 

Saying your claims are “factual with substance” does not make them so. Calling me unintelligent while insisting you are not insulting me is also transparently contradictory. My briefly narrowing an earlier interpretation does not validate the rest of your claims.

What makes my claims factual is what I wrote before you responded. That hasn't changed. As a matter fact you are a doom poster. No one here would argue that. You're also miserable which is most likely the key driving force of your consistent poo flinging. 

Yes, everything I've said is factual. Stamped and approved and on display before I even mentioned it here. 

 

“Younger people have less experience” is obvious. “Therefore Gen Z is uniformly the least wise” does not follow. Age can provide opportunities to gain wisdom, but people can also accumulate prejudice, rigidity, and repeated error. Experience is not automatically converted into wisdom.

Wisdom is gained by experience and observation. Both come in due time and there is a lot to learn. 

On that note, I can tell you have some overdue hard lessons. Reality hits. Older people on average, by a landslide, also have more regrets, and regret makes one wiser. It really does. 

 

Your long description of enjoying pizza, technology, attention, money, sex, friends, and entertainment does not conflict with nihilism. You are describing subjective enjoyment. I have never claimed that people cannot enjoy temporary experiences. I have said that enjoyment does not establish objective or permanent purpose.

Don't care about nihilism. It's been your theme for weeks. Nihilism is a void. Belief in nothing. It by definition means nothing. No values, no traditions. No sense of right or wrong. Nothing good comes out of it. It's boring, ignores functionality. 

If you're a nihilistic person, you shouldn't bitch when I'm not in the mood to entertain what I perceive as foolishness, though I can agree it shouldn't matter. 

Don't care if you know your purpose or not either, which is a good thing cause I cannot change your mind, nor would I consider trying, though I can assure you closed minds will most likely never realize their purpose, especially a nihilistic persona.  

 

You also keep replacing my actual position with “the world is going to end and it will be great,” “life is hard, therefore everyone should die,” and similar caricatures. Recognizing that extinction and impermanence are inevitable is not the same as feeling constant doom, nor does preferring eventual nonexistence require being unable to enjoy anything now.

I brought it up, not replacing anything. 

Still, you'd like us all to just die. That's your "Holy Grail". Your sense of a creator is the very nothing that created you and so you'll return to the very nothing from where you came, and how it'll be great cause life is nothing but suffering. To you it's a sin to procreate.  

 

Likewise, I do not label myself a feminist. Supporting abortion as necessary healthcare and supporting a woman’s ability to opt out of reproduction does not automatically entail every political and psychological belief you assigned to me. You invented an ideological character and then attacked it.

Every label I've, as you say, assigned to you, come from the various attributes and ideologies you've displayed here over time. 

I do think there are cases where abortion is in order, but if a whore keeps getting knocked up she should have her tubes tied. 

 

The comments about my body, masculinity, sexuality, family, location, physical survival, and supposed fear of women have no bearing on whether your claims are true. They are humiliation tactics intended to replace analysis with a hierarchy in which you appoint yourself healthy, strong, desirable, and enlightened while assigning me the opposite traits.

Ha ha ha.  

Regardless if I bring it up or not, it's true.  

 

That may be emotionally satisfying, but it does not constitute truth or intelligence. It only demonstrates how heavily your argument depends on asserting personal superiority whenever the actual claims are challenged.

 Fine then. 

I'm either able to assert personal superiority or not. If I did, I'll take it. Did I really do that Dragoon ?

Only someone with personal superiority would be able to assert it in the first place. 

- I told some stories. I claim them to be true. Take it or leave it. 

- In my story I got ran over, cockblocked, toyed with and a list of other things I've tolerated and forgiven.

- I cut someone I love loose. Best for us both. She lost the protector, the cheerleader, the comedian and the truth teller all at the same time. I will no longer be a resource to be used. No more chances. We need to release what doesn't serves, especially if it does nothing but causes distress. This took a very long time.

- There comes a point where we really should give up. 

When it's time to understand, you'll overstand, that's why you're deluded. You don't understand.  

No argument when I wrote it the first time. But you somehow still see it as some argument. 

Here's what I know. 

When you see people make better choices, wise choices, you have something to argue. I don't see any value arguing about my personal experiences, my incredible capacity to forgive and tolerate, and my decision to give up for a change. Perhaps to you, I'm in the wrong. Not important to anyone. Kinda makes me question your nihilism. Looks like you're displaying some sense of right or wrong. Here I'll be a nihilist for a moment. Fuck that shit. I'm putting me first for a change. Thank you.  

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ooo that came at a price. Somethings wrong. Here comes the guilt. 

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