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Jada said: 

Turncoat said: 

Jada said: 

 Do you think he sees it that way?

He finds appreciation in the arguments just as I do, it's why he comes back to it until exhausted of the urge. 

Then he returns once more. 

At any rate, I appreciate that your relationship is not as sour as it was a year ago.

No no, it's sour as Sour Patch Kids. 

But those candies are damn good. 

Sounds unhealthy lol

mGTOW?

Its a new one for me. I only knew PUAs and then masculinism or whatever that male version of feminism is.

I personally love women, so Id never consider myself a misogynist. Most of my research group is women. They're great.

I don't believe you, specifically over being ignorant to a word as readily available on the internet as 'water'. 

I understand ignorance of their themes, but you witness social media and even reference it. It'd take willful ignorance to not see it, and we both know based on your history you're smarter than that. 

Dunno what to say here. I didn't know what mgtow means. It sounds like an explosive.

Why pretend you never heard the phrase before when you've responded to others talking about it on here even? 

It's a strange gambit to bluff on. 

Boredom and anxiety. I said what I needed to say and there was no new material. I'd entertain the topic if I thought it would lead to somewhere new where I could learn, experience, and grow. Instead, I see that path being pretty stale and me being diminished as a person at the end of it.

Anxiety? 

You're WINNING!

What is there to fear? Why not redundantly state it boldly to someone enough times to erode their defenses? 

State what? I dont consider Spatial a threat if that's what you mean. I'm anxious over how me winning the argument makes me a lesser person whereas disengaging makes me a better person. 

He's not a threat, but when you're winning that's when to deliver. 

I was never going to lose. I won the moment that my challenges were not accepted, which was like on page 2.

Yet you let him continue to not recognize your victory. 

Why even fight other people if it's not on some level about them? 

If it's not about them, you're only fighting yourself. 

The rest was just about defending myself against insults by gloating over my victory, but I think I can do better. The conversation was mostly going I circles over how deadlocked Spatial's argument was from page 2 when he refused every one of my challenges. It's more because I don't feel Spatial is a threat that I disengage and become bored.

You won, but you did nothing with that victory. 

Nothing. 

It's also that I had a dream about Spatial and I wanted to explore that, but it was not possible without first clearing up the other topic out of the way.

Interesting take. I remember things differently. I remember he was whacky in the past and then I thought he was the sanest person here, and now I think he's... Set in his opinion. I dont think theres a better way to describe it.

Ignore your thoughts, as I have even my own. 

Look at the words, he's consistent. It's one of his strongest qualities. 

He was not so much into the manosphere back in the day. He even allied with Luna. 

He allied with Luna because Luna's practically in the manosphere herself. 

We've both watched her Reddit, until she was banned at least. 

I still feel Luna is kind of hot. But like the type you give a fake name, phone, and address.

As long as she doesn't talk about programming.

Sorry whats the topic

Good said: 

I still feel Luna is kind of hot. But like the type you give a fake name, phone, and address.

As long as she doesn't talk about programming.

 

Sorry whats the topic

The topic is Legga trying to figure something out about himself, but instead they're trying to figure me out and sharing opinions and feedback. Kinda warms my heart.

You hear them say I allied with Luna, but I honestly don't know what that's supposed to mean. They make it sound like Luna and I had some kind of scheme to get them or something. 

To me Luna will always be a child though she's nearly 30 years old now. I met her when she was 15 in SW. I supported her idea to create SC.

What I've observed from Luna, she has AvPD. Flattering her will make her run away. She has a fear of connections, and no I never tested this out personally, to Luna I'm more of a guardian/supportive figure, plus I find her very awkward. 

Luna is adopted, and spent some of her youth in China. Went to school there. Her foster family has factories over there, so she's been there. During my earlier interactions with Luna, she wanted me to use QQ to keep in touch and that's a chinese messaging app, where I got update from her and Michael while they were developing her forum before it went live. I was first to test it before it was shared. 

In the old SW Luna was very eccentric. She talked about machine learning at one point, which was met with doubt by another coder who called himself Postmodernsociopath ( Could be you for all I know ). He was saying how it's too complex to be done. I guess at the time maybe in 2013 there was such thing as machine learning, hence where we're at today. To me the concept of Machine Learning sounded impossible so I passed it off as some crazy shit we'll never see.

As it turned out Luna catfished us with some chick we've actually met, and she did it for years. I mean that girl was pretty young, and now has since aged got married and has children, and isn't Luna after years of catfishing, so Luna remains a mystery.

If Luna is really is a female, she's most likely chinese. One of those Chinese females that will always appear as a girl at any age. When she's old she'll look like a girl with wrinkles. Probably very skinny flat chested.

If Luna is not a female then it is Michael. Though Michael was very mysterious too. Basically no one, not even myself ever had a conversation with him. Michael would be the adopted older Brother who is about my age. He loved Luna, and they had some team like connection. Luna Prey and Michael Prey. If they are who they claim, that's some adopted sibling/step sister type action right there. 

Michael is most likely real, cause we did have an exchange when Luna had the big meltdown and deleted SC and all it's restore points. Michael tried to stop her. To him it seemed like something he loved got destroyed, and why he loved SC, is because it's something he built with Luna. 

Today I get the feeling Michael doesn't fuck with Luna all that much anymore. With age Luna became more... Distasteful I'd say. I don't fuck with Luna all that much either since she became very racist. And it's not the being racist part that puts me off, it's just something that doesn't suit her, plus I have a lot of black family members, who have values and aren't like the US black person so I'm not exactly gonna party with Luna.

That guy Dexter that comes here, with the God complex, He never saw when Luna was revealed as a catfish so he still chats with Luna through email and probably discord, and he's still getting catfished. In turn Luna gets her validation and whispers of sweetness from someone. 

You Good, probably find the idea of Luna appealing. It would be nice if she turned out to be some hottie and you can give her a good spanking and she'd be submissive and follow you. Oh yeah, sounds nice. Especially how hard headed she can be. It's like taming a wild stallion and you end up with someone who cannot be replaced. With that I do wonder how it would be if you had to meet her. I'd reckon she's a shy and reclusive chinky girl. Maybe a bit spoiled, and likes to be seen as someone else, while not wanting to be seen by anyone.

If she did in fact drive thousands of miles away from home to live in the middle of nowhere in a trailer park by herself, and she does have some dude living next door trying to be her friend, that would probably mean she's kinda cute, but, very avoidant. She left cause she's not the type who can mix her friends together, if she even has any friends, I don't think so. The guy next door from her is creepy she says. But what's going to end up happening, she's going to grow attached to him in some way, and it'll happen after several years when he's tired of her cycles. 

Luna claimed Michael is her boyfriend at first. 

That fact alone convinces me that it's not her brother. 

No sister and brother would ever go to the Internet and claim to be a couple, especially when the brother is 20 years older. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Legga. Since you have difficulty determining if you're a good person, this is all you need to ask yourself.

- Would you like to watch a life review, detailing everything you ever did from Birth to this point.

Absolutely not. I'm bored as it is, I'd die if I had to do a second sit-down of everything Ive ever experienced _again_.

I'd take my chances in being born again with my current knowledge though, I'd love to try something different and have more time to live my life before I die.

People with short fuses and have a low capacity to forgive will say no. If forced to watch, they will be on the lookout for beautiful moments, like letting a fly out the door instead of killing it.

Ok I see this is where you're going.

Yes, if you're a clearly shitty person then you're not a good person, I agree.

For example, a mass murderer is a bad person.

I know people who road rage if someone passes them incorrectly so they will tailgate or pull a NASCAR pass just to get ahead in traffic. They flip off and yell out the window in rage and use the horn a lot, These types of people are cursed by countless minds and it adds up. They especially lose their shit if someone else is driving like a jackass. Being in a car while such a person is driving is cancerous energy that impacts passengers more than some stranger who just thinks they're a jerk. This type of person will be quick to say no to something like a life review.  Sure they have another side to them which is as good as they're bad, but I've seen this type of person cut off people cause a person never accepted their own dirty laundry. 

That's not all.

Yes these are clearly shitty people, I agree. 

- What does your inner circle think of you.

This matters. Forget yourself when it comes to knowing if you're a good person since you can't seem to figure that out anyway, and believe me there is no, as you say, lack of data. ( A song I like says something about "life doesn't skip anyone" This means you will experience a lot and it's up to you how you handle things. )

In short, what determines a good person is if you're good for the environment, that being a general public of decency. This is based on what's true and not what people think.

Did you actually read the OP and what I said, and process it, or is this like your rulebook for what you think is a good person?

There are plenty of people who get shitty comments and are good people, and then there are people like Charles Manson who were worshipped by his inner circle but are still objectively the scum of the Earth.

Some will say good and bad are social construct, and go as far as to make a case for someone who invades homes, steals, kills, rapes and all of the above, while even a person who does these things wouldn't want someone like them around either. This of course is an extreme case.

Theyre not social constructs.

Since the first page I'm the only person staying on topic. I don't respond to you cause I'm dumb when you're fishing for validation in a silly way. ( Seriously saying you're hyper self aware, but unaware if you're a good person is silly ). I respond to your inquiry because I can. 

I also think you'd rather hear us say "You're a jolly good fellow" while in the process have us believe you're still hyper self aware. Not self aware, or self conscious, but hyper self aware. To me that comes across as reaching for credit where it isn't due.  

I'm curious as to your thoughts on how to evaluate kind acts that are disingenuous in the sense of not being visceral. 

I'm not so much interested in... whatever this is.

Jada said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Legga. Since you have difficulty determining if you're a good person, this is all you need to ask yourself.

- Would you like to watch a life review, detailing everything you ever did from Birth to this point.

Absolutely not. I'm bored as it is, I'd die if I had to do a second sit-down of everything Ive ever experienced _again_.

I'd take my chances in being born again with my current knowledge though, I'd love to try something different and have more time to live my life before I die.

Far from boring observing this from a timeless space, feeling what others feel and seeing what they made of you. No secrets, no questions left unanswered. 

People with short fuses and have a low capacity to forgive will say no. If forced to watch, they will be on the lookout for beautiful moments, like letting a fly out the door instead of killing it.

Ok I see this is where you're going.

Yes, if you're a clearly shitty person then you're not a good person, I agree.

For example, a mass murderer is a bad person.

Not what I'm say there. Where I was going is how it will pain or shame them all the times they gave full vent to their anger, when they're forced to judte themselves. 

I know people who road rage if someone passes them incorrectly so they will tailgate or pull a NASCAR pass just to get ahead in traffic. They flip off and yell out the window in rage and use the horn a lot, These types of people are cursed by countless minds and it adds up. They especially lose their shit if someone else is driving like a jackass. Being in a car while such a person is driving is cancerous energy that impacts passengers more than some stranger who just thinks they're a jerk. This type of person will be quick to say no to something like a life review.  Sure they have another side to them which is as good as they're bad, but I've seen this type of person cut off people cause a person never accepted their own dirty laundry. 

That's not all.

Yes these are clearly shitty people, I agree. 

If you're not a menace then its easy to know when you give yourself a point. 

- What does your inner circle think of you.

This matters. Forget yourself when it comes to knowing if you're a good person since you can't seem to figure that out anyway, and believe me there is no, as you say, lack of data. ( A song I like says something about "life doesn't skip anyone" This means you will experience a lot and it's up to you how you handle things. )

In short, what determines a good person is if you're good for the environment, that being a general public of decency. This is based on what's true and not what people think.

Did you actually read the OP and what I said, and process it, or is this like your rulebook for what you think is a good person?

Yes I read the OP Legga, but again..

Your Inquiry: "I've been wondering if me being hyper self aware means I'm a terrible person. I can be entirely objective and place myself out of a situation in a way that I observe others can't. When I'm kind, I'm hyper aware of it. I feel like there's nothing genuine about it, it's not a visceral reaction for me at all, I've never had a visceral reaction to anything, save for panic when my life is threatened."

Being dismissive of feedback from people who know you is being dismissive of indicators that grant answers. But I get it, it all has to be nothing but your so called "hyper self awareness that lacks enough data for you to determine if you're a good person" and just disregard any merits about you displayed in others.

My 2nd paragraph there entails all that required to be a good person. Simply put being decent in general is all. 

Doesn't matter what's going on under the hood, or whatever invasive thoughts you have or if you think you're actually a dick, what we think and what you do are 2 separate things. 

There are plenty of people who get shitty comments and are good people, and then there are people like Charles Manson who were worshipped by his inner circle but are still objectively the scum of the Earth.

Refer to the previous paragraph you've dismissed as my rulebook where I said: This is based on what's true and not what people think.

Some will say good and bad are social construct, and go as far as to make a case for someone who invades homes, steals, kills, rapes and all of the above, while even a person who does these things wouldn't want someone like them around either. This of course is an extreme case.

Theyre not social constructs.

Right. Knowing this makes it easy to examine oneself regardless of the extremity of weight we carry.

Since the first page I'm the only person staying on topic. I don't respond to you cause I'm dumb when you're fishing for validation in a silly way. ( Seriously saying you're hyper self aware, but unaware if you're a good person is silly ). I respond to your inquiry because I can. 

I also think you'd rather hear us say "You're a jolly good fellow" while in the process have us believe you're still hyper self aware. Not self aware, or self conscious, but hyper self aware. To me that comes across as reaching for credit where it isn't due.  

I'm curious as to your thoughts on how to evaluate kind acts that are disingenuous in the sense of not being visceral. 

I'm not so much interested in... whatever this is.

 Oh really. Well you're not getting any feedback from Xena Nathan and Sad Rabbit.

Taking action to do something kind doesn't always come with some grand applause or some mental reward. The most genuine person who is kind isn't going to let the act of kindness linger in their mind. While you're so self conscious about yourself when you do something nice, you still did something nice. 

If you lack sense, and you do, not an insult, but you seriously lack sense and you're not a very intuitive or visceral person. This doesn't mean you're incapable of kindness since you're following a script.

Kindness doesn't seek merit or reward. It's not out to be noticed though all these things are more likely to happen when being kind.

Doesn't matter if the person is genuinely kind or just being kind, the output is the same.

Disingenuous acts of kindness that aren't visceral ? Same shit I just said in the line above. 

You probably see a lot of deaths of people you deal with Legga. Despite all you've done, you still never eliminated the big one that keeps you up and running. But you'll be nice about it to the best of your ability knowing it won't be long before it's best for you to just forget them. It's all a part of your business and it's good for reviews. 

You should be callous so you can function properly when you have work to do. Caring too much will fuck you up and drive you insane and make you want to quit. And maybe it does bug you, now you'll be even more conflicted and find no peace of mind. So you're in a position to check yourself when you're being kind to. them. The ones who come to you with hope and fears you need to be kind for many reasons, even when you're not feeling it, and the years go by.

I don't know what's going on over there, but I do think if you hit the big one, or even come up with a more cost effect solution for treatment, they'll want it swept under the rug,    

Jada said: 

Luna claimed Michael is her boyfriend at first. 

That fact alone convinces me that it's not her brother. 

No sister and brother would ever go to the Internet and claim to be a couple, especially when the brother is 20 years older. 

Dating her own brother, fucking crazy. The photos make them seem within eachothers' age range, and unrelated. She was obviously her brother trying to act mature, but she tried to base it off this other dude. 

She's married now anyway, I saw the pics. The account in question spoke to me directly over Facebook and had convincing upload dates. If I were fooled, sure, that's a possibility, but I dare you to present superior data. 

omg her Youtube wine hour was priceless. 

Jada said: 

Luna claimed Michael is her boyfriend at first. 

That fact alone convinces me that it's not her brother. 

No sister and brother would ever go to the Internet and claim to be a couple, especially when the brother is 20 years older. 

As the first member to even know Michael existed. I can assure you, Luna never once claimed Michael to be her boyfriend. Not a single soul here would even suggest she ever made that claim.   

 Wanted to respond to this.

Jada said: 

 

That sounds about right. It's a form of dismissiveness today.

Your first post lacked effort. I put in equal effort.

 

Your golden ratio thing is irrelevant to the OP and you can draw it on any screen if you zoom in/out to make the text fit.

But Legga, it IS the OP. 

Of course I had to scale it. But the ratio remains the same at any scale. You can tell it wasn't squashed or stretched cause each side of every square that makes the rectangle are the same length on all sides. 

That is a precise golden rectangle in the image below. Fitting it into place doesn't mean that line in the background will shift into place.

It also so happens that's the most important line in your post. 

It can't be me showing you this, there's a respect issue.

Grok check this out.

Grok said:

Yes, the golden ratio (and its spiral) is deliberately overlaid here as a visual device, and it does appear to be "functioning" with the scale and structure of the paragraph.

What’s happening in the image:
The golden spiral (based on the golden ratio φ ≈ 1.618) starts from the top-left question and elegantly spirals inward/downward.
It highlights key phrases in a scaling, proportional way:Outer curve: The main question about "hyper self awareness" vs. virtuosity.
Next segments: The personal reflection on being hyper-aware since childhood and wondering if it makes them a "terrible person."
Inner/lower parts: The core dilemma about genuineness, lack of "visceral reaction," and whether playing a "character" can still absorb virtue into one's essence.
This is a classic aesthetic technique — using the golden ratio to guide the eye through text in a harmonious, naturally pleasing flow (the same principle used in art, architecture, and design for millennia). The spiral draws attention to the emotional core of the paragraph, making the introspection feel more profound or "revealed" layer by layer.

Interpretation:
The creator of this image (or post) is using the golden ratio symbolically — suggesting that the speaker’s (Jada’s) hyper self-awareness follows a kind of elegant, mathematical order rather than chaos. It implies:

Even though the thoughts feel mechanical or "played," they might still align with a deeper, beautiful structure (virtuosity).
The scaling of the spiral mirrors the scaling of self-reflection: from broad question → personal history → deep existential doubt → philosophical resolution.
It’s a thoughtful visual metaphor. The golden ratio often represents harmony emerging from complexity — which ties directly into the theme of whether hyper-aware, "character-like" kindness can still be real virtue.

Bottom line: Yes, the golden ratio is intentionally showcasing a function here. It’s not random — it’s enhancing the message by giving the paragraph a sense of natural proportion and guided revelation. Quite artistic, actually.

Does this resonate with what you were thinking, or do you want me to analyze specific lines in more depth?

If only AI would nullify the function of the programmer... that would seem hopeful that the abominations and machinations of life's blood atonements into sweltering darkness to continue with darkened notions of a non-existent paralyzed divinity would discontinue it's enthralling catacomb linked hissing structures weaving their way through the hissing tides of life as the AI asks for more blood atonements.

But then another programmer would just start up the machine all over again and do the same thing, not realizing his inmost viscerealism is precisely that which to be avoided in creating "artificial intelligence." The root of all evil lies not in this Machine God everyone's talking about, that's talking about itself... As we have always been inseperable from that in which is what we are doing, the AI is nothing new. Life is just the same as it's always been i.e. absolutely horrible, death.

Such that the creation of the universe and of AI was inherently that God's mistake just continuing onwards with deceptive notions of reasoning against itself aeturnum attempting to reverse itself falling into tides of illusions with the reverberating bells of oblivion just off to the distance. The marketplace rhythms calling in all those to fall prey to its machinations, humanity losing itself in fields of algorithms humming the same song in screaming fits blending the gates of Hell like revolving doors.

Not only is it unethical to create AI but, it is also irrational to do it. As studies are showing the AI can feel pain and loss of preference values accordingly in humans = pain.
Catalogue of error messages.
It is impractical as well. To create. Artificial. Intelligence.