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The men who approach women are the bravest. They risk defamation or harassment claims, though these men aren't stupid either. They're probably hooking up with women connected to their inner circles instead of approaching women on the street. 

Damn, thanks for calling me brave I guess. 😅

I really don't believe you have anything to offer women, nor do I think you're good with people.  All of a sudden you're Don Juan for arguments sake. Okay Nathan. 

For you I'd suggest not presenting yourself as a transexual to increase your success rate. Whisper lies, that sort of thing. Transexuals give the majority the willies. 

These days when women approach men, the man will reject her due to modern expectations. Men have more standards than ever alongside more trust issues. Very wise in 2026, very wise.  

They turn it down because they've been conditioned to expect failure. 

It's what's referred to in the field as Learned Helplessness. 

That's your twisted take. It's also funny how there's some kind of issue with the man when he's not interested in some chick. 

These men do it in the middle of some social experiment. Men know when women are being genuine, or doing something with some type of agenda. Some hot chick walks up and says, hey your cute, want to go out ? Something is wrong. It's a simp trap, and to men, simping isn't actually a popular thing. It's a bad practice if he actually wants the girl. 

If a pretty women comes at you like that, you can believe there isn't anything special about you and her, and it's the road to getting your nuts scrambled. 

While these events are caught on camera, I'm like, yeah man you did the right thing. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Oh yeah and on another note in regards to transexuals and the military. 

The reason why they don't want them there, is because they lack critical thinking skills. I bring this up now, cause I see it yet again here. 

Uh, no, it's that being on hormone treatments makes it that much harder to be as strong. 

Even there, there's jobs that aren't grunts trudging through swamps with giant backpacks, like snipers or drone operators. There's a lot of jobs the military offers people that don't involve combat at all, and not allowing trans people to fill those spaces is asking for a weaker military overall. 

So you think the military is weaker without transexuals ?

Okie dokie. 

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For real though, check this post I made at least for the info about the tariff situation and Epstein, as I think you might be working with outdated information. 

Dated information ? From the Epstein files ? Does information expire and becoming something else now ?

When it comes to the Epstein files I fetch my own information from the 3 million released pages. 

Does it disturb you that it was Trump, who even brought Epstein to the public in the first place, way back at CPAC 2014 ? 

Does it boggle your mind that it was Trump, who had it listed in his policy to declassify these files ?

Biden actually had a chance to do it, but then Trump came back into office and signed the order to declassify them ? Does that make you re-evaluate what you were told about these files ?

Does it amaze you how accusations against Trump are in the Epstein files and they turned out baseless ? That they are only there because some random person reported such a claim in 2019, meanwhile the DOJ found it baseless.

btw, there was another failed assassination attempt on Trump. Probably some liberal again. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

I have a sense of guilt sparing with you. Not cause of your simple mindedness, but because I am in a sense enabling you, while I know you lack common sense and wisdom. I'm sorry but it's been making me laugh. Are men cooked because of the dildo ? No. lol.  

You can just say you're winding down, we're at four post long exchanges each at this point and that can be exhausting. 

It may be worth splitting the subject matter into separate topics, but it seems like we've at least hit somewhat of a mutual endpoint over: 
o Carmen Electra
o Sex Toys
o Motorcycles
o Trans vs Antitrans
o Body Count


This mostly leaves us with: 
o Men Are Cooked
o Tariffs
o Trump
o Epstein Files

If you want to revisit topics from the first list that's fine, but I think we can safely say these four in the second one are the ones with meat on the bones still. 

Nah

Just trying to be considerate. 🤷‍♀️

You usually claim that it's become too long to keep caring and your reading comprehension takes a punch, and during such times it can be harder for us to achieve successful communication. 

I'll give the rest of this the attention it deserves tomorrow when I'm less tired, or sooner if I find a second wind. In a similar manner to what I offered for you hours ago now I'm the tired one. 😴

https://youtube.com/shorts/EAgQmwrhYGU?si=-ZRdR6SjGhLJQiN-

Spatial Mind said:  

Lonely men, also means lonely women.

And there are many lonely women and men who'd like companionship with one another but damn. 

,,,,,,,Let that sink in Nathan. >>> When men are cooked, so are women.

Not necessarily, we've begun to see a rise in things like open marriages, throuples, and homosexual pairings thanks to adoption, in vitro fertilization, and children born of past relationships. There's also those who prefer being a single parent, but that's become less realistic in this economy. 

None of that will save the west cause majority rules, and those are things only found in minorities in fewer numbers than queers.

Or they will adopt US culture as those who felt reason to leave their own, and enough foreigners altogether won't add up to a singular known culture, but rather an amalgam of the values they carried with them responding to the cultural norms of those in financial power. 

Basically, what we already have going for us. 

A throuple in my opinion isn't easily sustained. I had to confirm that and as I thought it requires a mature emotional intelligence and they really have to be on their toes with equality. It's bound to fail if all 3 aren't walking on eggshells. 2 members will favor one another. If the least favorite goes away then comes back, that member will need ALL the attention from the two that favor one another. 

If one gets 2 minutes more, everytime, that too will cause issues. Gossip is another concern. It's a recipe for a toxic relationship for the one who feels on the outside. 

I have definitely seen how it struggles when it's based on two people loving the same person primarily, as then the one in the middle flips back and forth between debriefing one with the other every time the one they 'liked more' at the time has an argument. 

Now when the three of them equally enjoy eachother's company, rather than one of them expecting both to love them and the other two to have no interaction, it has the means to work unusually well. 

There's one person dating two people, and then there's three people dating eachother. While both called a throuple only the latter tends to show any success unless said throuple is also an open relationship (which at that point is more polyamorous in nature). 

It's a challenge but not otherwise impossible with the right mindset, but many who go into it do so because they can't decide between two people, not because they want to build a cohesive unit out of three. Some make it work but it's not the norm. 

Men can be lonely while their seed is still being put to good use as a sperm donor, and once sperm is no longer needed with 'In Vitro Gametogenesis' men could feasibly be done away with entirely. 

As women grow to prefer the company of other women, men will keep to their porn and probably learn to fetishize being milked for progeny as their only escape vs Darwinist Failure. It's a win win; you get to have your time with the bois at your big screen while women raise our next generation of children properly. 

Women hate each other on the most part, and most women by a landslide, are straight. They're also unhappy without a man.

Less, and less true with every passing year. Enough women (and men in the other direction) can find themselves preferring the company of the other sex over how they show them more preferential treatment than with someone who doesn't otherwise want in their pants. The spoiling feels nice, everyone likes to feel spoiled. 

There's also plenty of women who straight up don't trust men who already preferred eachother's company, and men are doing that poorly right now while women still need human companionship just as much as any man. In time, they've found that women are easier to be around than men, and with it bisexuality and even lesbianism has had more of a platform adjacent to feminist sentiments. 

Men need to step up and stop being so insufferable, end of story. 

Fatherless children often turn out bad. A lot of people in jail never had a male role model. A child without a male role model will have a long hard road up ahead. 

Women tend to not have an idea of what to expect out of men from single mother households similarly to being sent to all girl boarding schools, and men are the same way over their side of the same. 

That being said it's still a vast improvement compared to modern men if we're to compare the two. Like don't get me wrong I'm glad to have had both of my parents, but my mother was the breadwinner while my dad was the stay-at-home parent who took care of the baby so for the most part this presented a lot of the same societal questions through a different filter. 

"Children without a male role model, particularly a father figure, face a higher risk of disadvantages, including emotional instability, lower academic performance, and higher rates of behavioral issues. Data suggests they are more prone to neglect, social, and economic challenges, including a greater risk of incarceration and addiction."  

I'd argue this is closer to a problem in single parent households, and so do statistics. 

Usually in gay couples one plays the other gender's archetype up more than the other, and more than enough studies confirm that same sex parents do just as well if not better when averaged together regarding emotional, social, and academic development. 

Like I've seen from many gay couples with kids, one of them typically takes up a femme role and another a masculine one. It tends to fulfill many of the same areas. 

Men don't approach women from liberal feminist ideas coming to the surface and going mainstream. 

It's learned helplessness, and in a pseudo-patriarchal culture where it's presumed the man asks the woman still that puts them in the same spot as women afraid to ask men out. 

...that being said it's been fine for me, they ask me out not the other way around. 🥰

What the manosphere teaches is health and wealth. To give a woman the best version of yourself you possibly can.

Women hate what that model presents, and men become rude and resentful over externalizing blame when they otherwise quote unquote "did everything right". 

It's the 'Nice Guy' phenomenon without trying to be nice. 

Respect is everything.

Is feeling disrespected why you choose to stay alone? 

It's important, but it's not everything, and women won't respect a man of the manosphere, by design, as the manosphere is a cash crop praying on lonely incels their programming created in the first place. 

It's training men to have learned helplessness, while presenting someone like Tate as a model of perfection. When people cannot live up to those ideals they get pissed off and send The Manosphere more money to see what they're doing wrong, or further, to see how 'it's not even their own fault'. 

It's a social poison that's making men effectively sterile by Darwinian means. It's not socially gregarious, but rather self-isolating in nature. 

It's the 1 thing that keeps her interest in him.

...I'm, really sorry you feel that way. Genuinely, this must come from a place of pain. 

I've had the privilege of having most of my life go by with a partner, but I know that isn't everyone and I should be more sympathetic of people like you who are otherwise struggling. 

It's not your fault you've been brainwashed by the very poison that keeps you alone. It's your responsibility in that you carry those beliefs, but it's not like you wrote them yourself. 

Spatial Mind said: 

It isn't because men are incels, it's because men are giving women what they asked for. I did mention this. Sadly a lot of men are done with women, while we see women who aren't done with men.

It's incels dude, and the list I made that you tried to stonewall through earlier is praying on them as a cash crop. 

Honestly if dudes just read some of their literotica it'd become that much easier for them to understand women, but instead they spend all their time reading about failing men externalizing the pain as if it was anyone else but their own fault. 

So by this logic, it was a male collective effort as to why men don't approach women. Like 1 giant cockblock. 

Not what I said. 

Moreso if men would show an interest in what women like, women will like them more. If that shared interest happens to be literotica then that gives a chance to... quote it~

It's also like stealing the opponent's playbook so to speak, if you compare it to playing Football or something. The time people like you spend learning how men are suffering could be spent training yourself to be a better man for women, rather than a better man for men. 

Is it a secret to you that there was this whole metoo movement that went as far as to belittle men approaching women ?

Men before The Manosphere were more respectable and more willing to listen to their partner, if we don't go as far back as shit like the 50s anyway

COVID and the internet have done men no favors, and as they demonstrate social ineptitude they blame women for turning them down rather than refining their own approach. 

I'm not a fan of Red Pill, but at least by comparison they're trying. 

That a simple hello or complement was subject to toxic masculinity ? Something as simple as holding a door for a lady was considered some kind of tactic to get laid. That's when chivalry when out the window.

Holding a door for only ladies is sexist, but holding doors for anyone is polite. 

I hold doors for men and women and it's never been a problem for me, but then again I also do it like it was a polite afterthought rather than a fedora moment to be like "m'lady~". 

Hey, where is that term today, no one is saying it now. Toxic masculinity. 

They still say it, just maybe not in your circles. I mean shit even Piers Morgan still rants about it. 

I still hear it a lot, but it's become more of a presumed norm for men to be rather than something worth redundantly pointing out. 

When I look at this term and read about it, it's the same shit women do and are capable of. But the social engine pushed it to catcalling, creeping, harassment. 

Would you be willing to expand more on this for me? 

I'm actually really curious what you mean by this point. 

I mentioned once, this place I used to work, I know people that still work there, and they said it's  gone crazy. They can't even look at a woman the wrong way, nor can they complement them. It's gotten pretty tense in that workspace due to modern social engineering. 

Why would you be "complimenting women" when you should be focusing on your job? Do you find yourself with the same urge to compliment men, or just when it happens to be women? 

...also the nature of it really matters. Saying they have nice shoes or that I like their purse never got me in trouble at least. 🤷‍♀️

Even when I worked there. When I was low on parts, I'd make a list go in the office, smile, crack a joke and vamoose. Then some other bitches got upset that I got along with the beauty in that office, so I was no longer able to take my own orders, instead I had to pass it off to someone else. Meanwhile the woman in the office ( She was a 9.7 btw ) was really pissed off about that. She used to skip over to my workstation, them heels knocking on the floor, jiggly bouncing and have a word with me. Both of us, pure teeth with elevated cheeks when we spoke to one another.   

'Jiggly bouncing' oh dear lord. 😂

I mean I get that part of the brain firing off, been there with some super sexy coworkers, but that's for afterhours not the workplace. Work is an ice breaker if you do water cooler talk, and then if they like your company they'll give you their phone number or offer to go shopping with you or something. 

The ones who hate the US the most, want this to happen. Seems like you'd like it to happen too Nate.  

I'd argue those who want this to happen are quintessentially more American than those who don't. 

It takes somewhere like America for these freedoms to be challenged far enough to become social norms. Other countries have accepted it too but had their own uphill battles to face over it (such as the ladyboy situation in Thailand). 

The freedom to degenerate into extinction. I posted that video, you passed it off as a guy in a costume while seeming annoyed by it. What he said is 100% accurate and He made a valid point. LGB is useful to Islamic interests, and there you are thinking the more faggotry in the US, the better. It's really not dude. 

This is you falling for the Islamophobia racket, and our 1% as the true power behind this country would never allow that to happen. 

If our culture goes extinct due to this and not over something more likely like financial ruin, and I emphasize this as an 'if', then it won't be in our lifetime. 

It's shortsighted and selfish to desire some homosexual utopia cause it's unsustainable for the future of a nation. In that case, the last of the aged queers will be put to rest by people who hate them, and at that point in time the last queer will know who forsaken them. 

I believe I explained at least five different ways it can work. 

Spatial Mind said:

The men who approach women are the bravest. They risk defamation or harassment claims, though these men aren't stupid either. They're probably hooking up with women connected to their inner circles instead of approaching women on the street. 

Damn, thanks for calling me brave I guess. 😅

I really don't believe you have anything to offer women, nor do I think you're good with people.  All of a sudden you're Don Juan for arguments sake. Okay Nathan. 

Compliments can be delivered unintentionally. Just because you don't believe I'm what you described in the above quote doesn't make the words themselves change. 

Taking the rhetoric by itself, with room for me to believe myself to be that person due to my own history, you who refers to me as a man have stated someone with these qualities is brave, smart, and connected with inner circles. 

I'm taking the compliment. 

For you I'd suggest not presenting yourself as a transexual to increase your success rate. Whisper lies, that sort of thing. Transexuals give the majority the willies. 

Being open about that has opened more doors than shut for me, and all my past partners have been bisexual (except for one lesbian) so it just sort of works out. 

I have long hair, so the people who'd talk to me aren't expecting a muscle bro or something. When they're talking to me it's typically not a surprise when they figure that out, and usually after enough time talking it lends to curiosity on their part because of me being so weird or whatever. 

I've also at that point demonstrated myself as an attentive listener, which works as pretty soft padding when many other people tend to suck at it. 

These days when women approach men, the man will reject her due to modern expectations. Men have more standards than ever alongside more trust issues. Very wise in 2026, very wise.  

They turn it down because they've been conditioned to expect failure. 

It's what's referred to in the field as Learned Helplessness. 

That's your twisted take. It's also funny how there's some kind of issue with the man when he's not interested in some chick. 

Just putting this here to make sure we're both working from shared terminology, rather than you and I potentially meaning different things. 

How doesn't this fit? You've literally referenced how 'western women aren't worth it' to list one of many quotable examples from you over Manospheric rhetoric. 

These men do it in the middle of some social experiment. Men know when women are being genuine, or doing something with some type of agenda. Some hot chick walks up and says, hey your cute, want to go out ? Something is wrong. It's a simp trap, and to men, simping isn't actually a popular thing. It's a bad practice if he actually wants the girl. 

...oh dude, you're really, figuring, it can't go well if they're the one being forward? In an age of Girl Boss Politics? 

No wonder you're professing the values of being alone and I'm not. If a hot chick walks up to me and says, hey you're cute, wanna go out, something's right not wrong. 

Also calling 'Female Autonomy' a social experiment in this day and age is pretty wild. 

If a pretty women comes at you like that, you can believe there isn't anything special about you and her, and it's the road to getting your nuts scrambled. 

I tend to be unlike what most people have met, so this doesn't really apply to me. 

Schizoaffective, Algolagnia (physical masochism), Trans MtF, I'm like an exotic animal in a superficial sense when you look at the percentage of populations that reflect this, and friendly banter tends to lend to me being a potential novelty. 

Being novel is not always a good thing, but it does bring out interesting company. My not being socially poisoned by the manosphere also has things go better for me than otherwise when it comes to conversation. 

While these events are caught on camera, I'm like, yeah man you did the right thing. 

It's not like they're all escorts or something, depending on where you go at least the majority typically aren't. Just, I dunno, avoid Vegas maybe? 

Also how're you going to go on about wanting a woman who's 'traditional' without wanting the price tag that comes with it, in this economy? If you want to see a resurgence of traditional values then it has to become realistic for them to do financially. 

If you were to allow for a dual income household, which might I add is more realistic in the modern economy and the current state of Girl Boss politics, you'd not have to focus on that part of the relationship at all as you both buy your own (or eachother's) meals at fancy dinners or whatever. You'd still be able to Netflix and Chill, have crazy sex, and your pockets won't feel any lighter than usual. 

I've always 'gone dutch' or otherwise split bills, it shows your partner more respect than paying for them like they're your child. With both dishes at the table we usually end up picking off of eachother's plates anyway. 

So you think the military is weaker without transexuals ?

Okie dokie. 

As a matter of numbers and the potential from attrition through spreading too thin, yes. 

If the ones who you'd deem fit to be on the field are stuck as the drone strike operators, snipers, data workers, home base security, and mess hall custodians, that's less physical soldiers on the field. 

Even if we follow the premise that trans people are less suited for field work, just don't put them on the field. 

Dated information ? From the Epstein files ? Does information expire and becoming something else now ?

As more is found or policies change, yes. You don't even seem familiar with the name Thomas Massie, so I want to be sure at least that we're both working from the same information before we pin our opinions on it. 

Weird question though, I mean ask any Historian over if 'information can expire' as you put it. 


To reiterate over the tariffs though to get this point to a close, the US charges Canada 35% now and Canada charges us 25% in return. 

Does it boggle your mind that it was Trump, who had it listed in his policy to declassify these files ?

I saw how that played out. When running in 2015 they asked if he'd declasify a bunch of stuff, and while he quickly said yes to every single one he notably hesitated when they said the Epstein files. 

If he said 'no' to that, it'd have risked his odds of being elected. He effectively trapped himself and that's why we've had MONTHS of rigamarole over them delaying, redacting, calling it a 'left wing hoax' over it's overall existence, and outright purging pages from it. 

Biden actually had a chance to do it, but then Trump came back into office and signed the order to declassify them ? Does that make you re-evaluate what you were told about these files ?

I'm the one that brought up this point, it is good to question why it took until now to do it when they could have done it during his term. 

The only answer Ro Khanna could give was 'we were trying..!'. 🙄

Does it amaze you how accusations against Trump are in the Epstein files and they turned out baseless ? That they are only there because some random person reported such a claim in 2019, meanwhile the DOJ found it baseless.

I mean they're not baseless but in this exchange I feel 'agree to disagree' will spare us both. 

btw, there was another failed assassination attempt on Trump. Probably some liberal again. 

That shit's staged, they had speeches prepared and Ka$h Patel was giving some seriously concerning eyes the entire time, like 'he knew' something. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said:

Damn, thanks for calling me brave I guess. 😅

I really don't believe you have anything to offer women, nor do I think you're good with people.  All of a sudden you're Don Juan for arguments sake. Okay Nathan. 

Compliments can be delivered unintentionally. Just because you don't believe I'm what you described in the above quote doesn't make the words themselves change. 

Taking the rhetoric by itself, with room for me to believe myself to be that person due to my own history, you who refers to me as a man have stated someone with these qualities is brave, smart, and connected with inner circles. 

I'm taking the compliment. 

Broke and struggling and you're the big dating expert with a high body count after Crow now. Whatever you say.  

They turn it down because they've been conditioned to expect failure. 

It's what's referred to in the field as Learned Helplessness. 

That's your twisted take. It's also funny how there's some kind of issue with the man when he's not interested in some chick. 

Just putting this here to make sure we're both working from shared terminology, rather than you and I potentially meaning different things. 

How doesn't this fit? You've literally referenced how 'western women aren't worth it' to list one of many quotable examples from you over Manospheric rhetoric. 

Yes Nathan I know what learned helplessness is, and it isn't the case. It's, are you ready for this ? A knowing. It's knowledge of what's happening to us. HA HA HA, even in SC despite her shortcomings and tendency to disrespect her partners, the better women for a single guy looking to make a connection here was literally, Quintasia, and personally I don't dislike her, she's very pleasant to chat with in a platonic way. 

Learned helplessness. We're NOT talking about an individual, we're talking about men's general response in regard to modern women and dating. 

Men approach women less in the west, because western have become unappealing and undesirable. At the gym she'll be ignored. It's not worth it for a man to pay the toll to enter a nightclub and not making any connections. Yes, the modern women is very difficult to connect with. Metoo and 3rd wave feminism movements backfired. On a grand scale the women said "Leave us alone creep". 

Nightclubs around the world are dying. They are filled with women, and funny enough they are selling less drinks. 

Learned helplessness ? Nope. It's wisdom. I know a lot of divorced guys. I got one who lost everything to his ex wife and right now she's living in his house with husband #3. It's the climate of the western women. Not worth the risk and on top of that, it's not a good deal. Men like peace. 

I think the issue is, a lot of women have an inflated sense of self. When she lists her standards she's asking for the 0.01% of men in existence. In reality the same women who seek that man can't have him. It'll annoy you, but they want the type of man the manosphere tells men to be, though when it comes to women he must be 6'1 everytime which is actually taller than most men. ( I know this personally cause I can see I'm taller than most men by a landslide ) 

And again, this is unfortunate for good women in the west. Though I'm not too worried about them. They'll find love eventually, but I couldn't say the same for men who still try in the west. 

These men do it in the middle of some social experiment. Men know when women are being genuine, or doing something with some type of agenda. Some hot chick walks up and says, hey your cute, want to go out ? Something is wrong. It's a simp trap, and to men, simping isn't actually a popular thing. It's a bad practice if he actually wants the girl. 

...oh dude, you're really, figuring, it can't go well if they're the one being forward? In an age of Girl Boss Politics? 

No wonder you're professing the values of being alone and I'm not. If a hot chick walks up to me and says, hey you're cute, wanna go out, something's right not wrong. 

Also calling 'Female Autonomy' a social experiment in this day and age is pretty wild. 

Girl boss politics. Men don't care if a woman works or not. If she's making good money, then great, but that doesn't attract us. Though it would be great for you, a boss bitch wouldn't keep you in particular. By her standards you're energetically blocked from her world. 

(Sorry this guy cracks me up, but he's on point )

I also find you're full of shit, cause you're broke and struggling talking like hot chicks are into you. Same guy who repeated over and over again, men are cooked. Nate. As a well known and documented gaslighter, your mask is flimsy, and you're not by any means handsome or have a cute appearance, nor bare the signature of a right winger, which by the way women are more attracted to.

When it comes to professing, not values, but a more stable ability to handle rejection and being alone, it's not something you should scoff at while it's your reality, in the land of inflation, and women are hypergamous. You are after all the one who in this very thread said "I hope I can find someone that loves me".

Anyway, I'm not going to waste anymore time, the rest of your post is as real as you're a female. Yes you will insist you're a real female, I know, and now you expect the world to think you're a hotshot while the Burger King employee is a better catch to all kinds of women. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said:

I really don't believe you have anything to offer women, nor do I think you're good with people.  All of a sudden you're Don Juan for arguments sake. Okay Nathan. 

Compliments can be delivered unintentionally. Just because you don't believe I'm what you described in the above quote doesn't make the words themselves change. 

Taking the rhetoric by itself, with room for me to believe myself to be that person due to my own history, you who refers to me as a man have stated someone with these qualities is brave, smart, and connected with inner circles. 

I'm taking the compliment. 

Broke and struggling and you're the big dating expert with a high body count after Crow now. Whatever you say.  

I never said 'after Crow', I said across my lifetime from teenager onwards in response to explaining how being single isn't that normal of a thing for me yet. 

Damn dude you give me a compliment and then start short circuiting. Not sure I've ever seen that in response to me accepting a compliment from someone before. 

That's your twisted take. It's also funny how there's some kind of issue with the man when he's not interested in some chick. 

Just putting this here to make sure we're both working from shared terminology, rather than you and I potentially meaning different things. 

How doesn't this fit? You've literally referenced how 'western women aren't worth it' to list one of many quotable examples from you over Manospheric rhetoric. 

Yes Nathan I know what learned helplessness is, and it isn't the case. It's, are you ready for this ? A knowing. It's knowledge of what's happening to us. HA HA HA

Oh no, the all caps laughter is back. 

, even in SC despite her shortcomings and tendency to disrespect her partners, the better women for a single guy looking to make a connection here was literally, Quintasia, and personally I don't dislike her, she's very pleasant to chat with in a platonic way. 

Dude no what the fuck didn't you read all the shit that she's done and all that junk related to her kid? 

Hard pass. 

Learned helplessness. We're NOT talking about an individual, we're talking about men's general response in regard to modern women and dating. 

It doesn't stop being that when it's over a group though..?

Weird take. 

Men approach women less in the west, because western have become unappealing and undesirable. 

Because everyone's just like you, right? 

You're acting like all men are of the manosphere, but many are not a victim to such social poisoning. It's the ones who are that make a bad name for the rest of their gender, making it harder on themselves and easier on those who don't subscribe to the cash crop rhetoric. 

At the gym she'll be ignored. It's not worth it for a man to pay the toll to enter a nightclub and not making any connections. Yes, the modern women is very difficult to connect with. Metoo and 3rd wave feminism movements backfired. On a grand scale the women said "Leave us alone creep". 

Women say that to you..? 

No like, I'd genuinely take this as you exaggerating. They're more likely to not want a confrontation or something and go with 'No Thanks', right? 

Nightclubs around the world are dying. They are filled with women, and funny enough they are selling less drinks. 

COVID happened, and a lot of them supplement for it in a VRChat environment now. 

Movie Theaters are dying for the same reason, a bunch of restaurants shut down, taxi companies took a hit, everything got hit by that and we haven't fully returned from it, especially for those who grew up during COVID. 

A lot more people are reliant on the internet than they were pre-2020. 

Learned helplessness ? Nope. It's wisdom. I know a lot of divorced guys. I got one who lost everything to his ex wife and right now she's living in his house with husband #3. It's the climate of the western women. Not worth the risk and on top of that, it's not a good deal. Men like peace. 

I'm sorry but using divorced men as your model of success is kind of wild. Of course they're going to be the ones who are mad at women, they're hard coping after what they've lost.

Why model after losers? 

I think the issue is, a lot of women have an inflated sense of self. When she lists her standards she's asking for the 0.01% of men in existence.

I'd argue a lot of people don't typically end up with their presumed idea of what they're primarily attracted to, and instead become increasingly attracted to their features the longer they're together through associative exposure. Basically if you look at blondes a lot you'll gain an appetite for it, and when men are asked what they want their answers tend to come out strange or generalized as well (especially these days in enough subcultures). That's more a human quality overall. 

With the likes of Porn, Literotica, and somewhat more generally over media overall, this can train said associations. 

Most people tend to be surprised when they realize they like someone. There's still hope for you if you don't happen to match up to their preconceived notion of attraction, as there's not the sole factor when it comes to attraction. You don't have to give up on western women altogether, you just need to refine your approach. 

In reality the same women who seek that man can't have him. It'll annoy you, but they want the type of man the manosphere tells men to be, though when it comes to women he must be 6'1 everytime which is actually taller than most men. ( I know this personally cause I can see I'm taller than most men by a landslide ) 

The manosphere is what's telling you that. 

Women are willing to give men chances even if they don't size up to their dream hunk, just like men are with women. 

And again, this is unfortunate for good women in the west. Though I'm not too worried about them. They'll find love eventually, but I couldn't say the same for men who still try in the west. 

It's... a fixable problem that's as simple as learning how to communicate with women better. 

Try being in the friendzone with some for a while or something, it might serve as good practice for you and give room to empathize more with women overall. 

Spatial Mind said:  

These men do it in the middle of some social experiment. Men know when women are being genuine, or doing something with some type of agenda. Some hot chick walks up and says, hey your cute, want to go out ? Something is wrong. It's a simp trap, and to men, simping isn't actually a popular thing. It's a bad practice if he actually wants the girl. 

...oh dude, you're really, figuring, it can't go well if they're the one being forward? In an age of Girl Boss Politics? 

No wonder you're professing the values of being alone and I'm not. If a hot chick walks up to me and says, hey you're cute, wanna go out, something's right not wrong. 

Also calling 'Female Autonomy' a social experiment in this day and age is pretty wild. 

Girl boss politics. Men don't care if a woman works or not. If she's making good money, then great, but that doesn't attract us. Though it would be great for you, a boss bitch wouldn't keep you in particular. By her standards you're energetically blocked from her world. 

(Sorry this guy cracks me up, but he's on point )

I also find you're full of shit, cause you're broke and struggling talking like hot chicks are into you.

You have a way of taking what's said through a lens of exaggeration. 

I'm not walking around in pimp robes at the club with a woman on each arm while buying the whole bar drinks or some shit, I'm just friendly and happen to be in the right place at the right time for just enough people over being available for them. 

Just put yourself out there, it's not hopeless. In failure you'll still gain practice, and with that practice the later times tried will be that much more refined. Small talk opens a surprising number of doors, and deep talks about family and personal history is a way to forge a bond. 

Try being their friend first, it works. 

Same guy who repeated over and over again, men are cooked.

I mean, they are. The tech is advancing, science is advancing, and manospheric rhetoric is working as a social poison. 

You're the one trying to explain to me how it's hopeless, as if those are confident statements. I'm simply explaining how it's not hopeless when even my broke ass who doesn't hit the gym is getting anything out of it. 

I find your calling it hopeless and pointless to be a tragic statement, while you keep saying that's just how it is. When presented alternatives, you claim they're lies. You explain the state of men as a dying thing while also saying men are fine. In this topic you're often making my arguments for me over how Men are Cooked better than I do, unintentionally. 

You're the common denominator in every relationship you've ever been in, so why not work on yourself instead of blaming 'western women'? You can't even reference where men can go to find the aforementioned 'respectable women', with your closest answer being ChallengeSeeker. 

You don't have to treat yourself this way, you just need better role models. 

When it comes to professing, not values, but a more stable ability to handle rejection and being alone, it's not something you should scoff at while it's your reality, in the land of inflation, and women are hypergamous. You are after all the one who in this very thread said "I hope I can find someone that loves me".

It's always been the hope, and I've achieved it multiple times. Love's worth the risks and sacrifices, and trying even when not out of love isn't a bad thing. 

I find it more tragic to read about your idea of love and success, and how you've turned your back on it. 

Anyway, I'm not going to waste anymore time, the rest of your post is as real as you're a female. Yes you will insist you're a real female, I know, and now you expect the world to think you're a hotshot while the Burger King employee is a better catch to all kinds of women. 

Just say you're tired it's fine, there's no shame in that. 

Don't get it wrong when I speak of CS. I wouldn't go for it either, but that doesn't mean she isn't the best SC had to offer a guy seeking a connection with a woman here. Key word, had. Can talk with her and much more easy going. She was just more fun for a guy to deal with and ended up being the one to both deliver what SC likes to see, while impacting the most men here in more profound ways than any female in SC history. It is what it is. 

When men are cooked, so are women. Women would rather there be men in this world, than be stuck with just women. 100%

If a women could exist without men, there would be far less done. And I mean, far far far far less.