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Zena said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

What do you mean flips my argument back at me?  Nothing you said contradicts or really answers me, outside of ...I don't know what you'd call it: some theme of framing.  Besides I wasn't asking you. :)

...Wait, unless this is just revealing YOU AREN'T THE REAL XENA AND FORGOT TO CHANGE YOUR ACCOUNT!

 Lolwut? I said the Innuendo Studios vid flips your argument around.

It's on you to find it, tho. I'm having trouble with this device. 

 

And yeah, I'm Xena. Ask a question if you want.

We were going to meet at Tim Horton's near the Frederick Mall. 😋

 Wait... Did you think I was arguing with your vid? The one where dude shows just how moronic Nutlick 's fake tariff calculus is?

Nah. He's mostly right. But it's all so convoluted because he's talking to stupid MAGAts. I admit I shut that down because it was boring me.

I prefer the Gordian Knot solution Xi offered.

I wish our auto industry wasn't so tangled up with the Americans. I would push our leaders to just tell the Americans to fuck off for about 70 years, like we did with Germany. We're the ones who don't need anything from them. And they need our oil.

As it is, it looks like Carney is starting a partial decoupling, hopefully without bankrupting too many industries.

And I really really hope that lady from BC is still able to rebuild The Bay. Not sure why. The history behind that thing is absolutely ghoulish. The American money standard was in gold.

Ours was... Beavers  😲😭

But still, it's OUR history. And the American hedge fund people who cared for it the last 12 years were surprisingly decent... I think. At least they sound like they're honestly trying to save it.

But yeah. Innuendo Studios Alt Right Playbook series. Always A Bigger Fish. It makes this argument much shorter and cute to look at, with little cartoon characters and everything. 🤓

Jada said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Jada said: 

Spatial, you're not listening

 Look how your response is all, i, i, i.

You're really not listening.

That's made up. The only substance you brought were recaps of what you already said. You failed to answer questions and focus on the content, instead wanted to discuss your performance in the heat of the moment.

I on the other hand moved forward with the discussion.

Why don't you comment on the data I posted. 

Because your data is in response to arguments I never made and I couldn't care less about.

You argued that Canada was crushed by Trump, that we're getting dominated, that we're in a trade war. That tge US tariffs are a real threat to the world.

My argument (with data) shows that it's the other way around, and how it's  China and the US having a trade war.

Trump never tariffed the world, but instead gave them the chance to renegotiate tariffs. Everyone is charging the US more than the US charges them for trade.

The US proposed roughly 50% discount retaliatory tariffs on 51 nations, except nations with low tariffs, and not including Canada.

Ok and?

So the big threat you were lead to believe, isn't even real.

The US is open to negotiations, that's why they did the -50% pat on the bum. And it worked.

Who is tariffing who more, and who has always tariffed who more ?

I don't give a dann. Check my claims.

Yep there you go losing more credibility. They did a real nimber on you.

The answer obviously doesn't work for your end of the argumrnt.

Any nation who doesn't want a tariff war with the US, can easily avoid it by implementing fair trade.

Does it mean war if the US starts seeking fair trade ?

Yes.

Trade war: a situation in which countries try to damage each other's trade, typically by the imposition of tariffs or quota restrictions.

So by your logic, the US shouldn't have fair trade keep getting ripped off by nations of the world.

The nation that thinks that way..... will certainly have a trade war.... and the one that did is China and now they're really fucked right now.

As I'm writing this China is tariffed  245% and Xi is actually going to get knocked out of power if things don't tutn around.

Factories closing and gone bankrupt.

While China is getting burned the other nations will consider how to handle fair trade.

Fair..... You know Legga, that word probably used to mean something to you, in this case fair means peace and prosperity. US is 33+ trillion down. 

The answers to that are simple but, I doubt you're able to backtrack toward common sense.

You're not listening.

 I was right, your answer was "I don't care" and how the US requesting "fair" ( key word) trade, is a trade war. It really isn't.

It's a renegotiating tactic, where the greedy will suffer as the US will either increase tariffs or save money.

 Another recap

Jada said: 

Here are my claims:

What do I actually think of the trade war? First and foremost I think it's a trade war. You seemingly didn't agree, but it is, according to the fucking dictionary. So this is my appeal to the Oxford dictionary. Not very controversial.

My second claim is that Trump is acting to further America's interests at the economic cost of other countries. Not a very controversial take now is it, given that his slogan is America first?

Then I made the claim that Trump wants to Annex Canada by (economic) force. Also not a controversial statement, is it, when he himself said it.

I was going to make the claim that you're working against your interests. However, I realise I was wrong. I didn't think you'd be so.... traitorous as to have no patriotism in you. You'd be fine with your own country being annexed through economic coercion. Your words, not mine. I gracefully admit I was wrong, but only because I thought you wouldn't adopt such crazy views over admitting your idol is screwing you over.

Then I claimed that Trump is harming the Canadian economy. Also not a controversial take given that Trump declared a trade war on Canada

 

I also made the claim that there is no ceasefire in Ukraine.

I've now proven the first claim and you've admitted I was right about the ceasefire. You also admitted I was right about Trump's goals when it comes to Ukraine, and that it's not about these idealistic notions of peace you proposed earlier Spatial. I was also right about Trump wanting to annex Canada by economic force.

In essence, I have been right about every claim I made, and you've only attacked arguments that I never made.

You are traitorous to your own country, in favor of trump, who is screwing you over. You yourself admitted it. You are fine with USA annexing your country by (economic) force.

 Oh please. Justin Trudeau should be locked up for what he did to Canada, and the US is a better place than Canada right now. Many Canadians have left Canada to live in Europe or the US.

As a Canadian I'm free to move out if I wish and keep my citizenship.

I also said if Poilievre can't fix Canada then we should be annexed. Alberta separation is on the table if this election swings left, that's Canada's oil saying bye bye. Canada used to be a better place to live thsn the US We have millions of immigrants to deport.

Knowing the truth and speaking it isn't treason. Canadians have the right to get angry and fuck off to a better place, while our government already replaced it's own people.

Treason would be me doing something to harm a Canadian or if I had been aiding terrorists or took up arms agsinst Canada.

Also, if Canada did get annexed today, my life won't really change. I'd still do the same things except I'm packing heat, and my USDC tokens will skyrocket 70% while my CAD mutates to the new and improved USD at +130% so yes, wouldn't exactly be crying when I'd have no reason to.

What would I have to cry about when I look around and seeing people able to afford life again  ?

Seriously. America is not Canada's enemy. Trump's effect has been very positive on Canada and our government is now on it's toes trying to fix this. The Liberal government got choked out.

Trump's Tariffs would only force Canada to trade with itself more and buy Canadian and all of those who do it for cheaper.

Also if my nation falls down to the point of Ethiopia or Venezuela, it's actually a blessing to have God's richest and most powerful nation take us in. It's a veeeery nice thing.

That's made up. The only substance you brought were recaps of what you already said. You failed to answer questions and focus on the content, instead wanted to discuss your performance in the heat of the moment.

I on the other hand moved forward with the discussion.

You were and still are attacking a strawman.

You argued that Canada was crushed by Trump, that we're getting dominated, that we're in a trade war. That tge US tariffs are a real threat to the world.

My argument (with data) shows that it's the other way around, and how it's China and the US having a trade war.

Trump never tariffed the world

So by your logic, the US shouldn't have fair trade keep getting ripped off by nations of the world.

Literally never said this but ok.

I was right, your answer was "I don't care" and how the US requesting "fair" ( key word) trade, is a trade war. It really isn't.

It's a renegotiating tactic, where the greedy will suffer as the US will either increase tariffs or save money.

The ceasefire failed.

There never was a ceasefire.

What idealistic notions of peace did I propose you ass ?

Ass? Now who's insulting who.

You've been strawmaning me the entire time so really I should be calling you an ass 10 times over, ass.

You said Trump is ending the war because he wants peace. USA is pulling out to focus on China. So your idealistic notion of peace is not what motivates Trump.

Nope. You're wrong about the realignment of world trade and passed it off as a trade war, like what the MSM tells you it is.

This is like you arguing that dolphin is not a mammal.

I showed you the real nature of the US tariffs, and how nations are expressing humility toward the US and open to better deals as they WILL no longer overcharge the US for selling to them ( Except China )

Sure do you also want to show your penis while you're at it? Might be about as relevant to what I've said.

You were wrong about Canada being crushed by the US.

The fact is that US wants to economically coerce Canada and annex it, and the way this is implemented is through tariffs, and you would traitorously support the annexation of your own country. Is this not true? If it is, then I'm wrong about nothing.

Also if my nation falls down to the point of Ethiopia or Venezuela, it's actually a blessing to have God's richest and most powerful nation take us in. It's a veeeery nice thing

I read everything you said, but this last bit summarizes what you had to say. You are unpatriotic and ungrateful to your own country and disrespectful to your cultural heritage. This is why I say you're a traitor to your own country.

You have no respect for those who came before you and fought to give you everything you have. You are incredibly ungrateful, like a child who resents their parents.

Jada said: 

The ceasefire failed.

There never was a ceasefire.

Both sides agreed to a 30 day ceasefire last month, Russia claims it lasted 3 days. 

What idealistic notions of peace did I propose you ass ?

Ass? Now who's insulting who.

You've been strawmaning me the entire time so really I should be calling you an ass 10 times over, ass.

You said Trump is ending the war because he wants peace. USA is pulling out to focus on China. So your idealistic notion of peace is not what motivates Trump.

That doesn't explain my idealistic notion of peace.

And I'm pretty sure I never worded it in such a maner. What I did say is Trump is the President of peace, and he wants to stop wasteful government spending.

Notice how we're going in circles while anyone can look back and see who the ass is here.

Nope. You're wrong about the realignment of world trade and passed it off as a trade war, like what the MSM tells you it is.

This is like you arguing that dolphin is not a mammal.

Only the US and China are in a Trade war. It's  why the Yuan is tanking and Chinese business is going up in smoke right now. And it's China's fault.

I showed you the real nature of the US tariffs, and how nations are expressing humility toward the US and open to better deals as they WILL no longer overcharge the US for selling to them ( Except China )

Sure do you also want to show your penis while you're at it? Might be about as relevant to what I've said.

See you're dodging the truth.

You were wrong about Canada being crushed by the US.

The fact is that US wants to economically coerce Canada and annex it, and the way this is implemented is through tariffs, and you would traitorously support the annexation of your own country. Is this not true? If it is, then I'm wrong about nothing.

Of course they do. They tried maybe twice before and this is maybe the 3rd time.

By your logic it's better to fall into a stoneage than to join the US. 

I say if Poilievre can't fix this mess, then joining the US is best. ( it's so true ) 

It's when pride is a sin, God hates stupid.

Also if my nation falls down to the point of Ethiopia or Venezuela, it's actually a blessing to have God's richest and most powerful nation take us in. It's a veeeery nice thing

I read everything you said, but this last bit summarizes what you had to say. You are unpatriotic and ungrateful to your own country and disrespectful to your cultural heritage. This is why I say you're a traitor to your own country.

You have no respect for those who came before you and fought to give you everything you have. You are incredibly ungrateful, like a child who resents their parents.

 Says you as you're scrounging for something to throw back at the truth I've spoken. You're just in denial and plain dunce, while I've lived in Canada all my life.

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I'll be voting this month in the Canadian upcoming federal for a Conservative government. Most of the world still aren't good with politics, however a majority knows which side not to vote for, and it's always the side that implements weakness to the economy.

@Jada, he wasn't born here. We're more like his foster parents. 😉

Also, I wouldn't exactly say Canada is getting wrecked yet. An auto plant and a few car dealerships in Ontario are temporarily closed, and 500 layoffs so far. As I was saying, I'm actually more concerned about HBC shutting down. 9000 people out of work there, and retail workers are less likely to get re hired quickly, compared to auto workers. Those guys have mad skillz. Other than that, a few condo complexes in Toronto won't get built. Trade wars are mostly rich people problems. The Bay would have shut down no matter who was in the Whitehouse.

I do agree that Pumpkinhead wants to start a war. That's just how he is. The big asshole telling every woman he sees to hurry up and jump in his bed or she'll be sorry and grabbing whatever he can on her and from her when she says no.

But in our case it would be very stupid to push us too far. The premiere s of both Ontario and Manitoba are ready to shut off the electricity to the US. And we have the final word on whether or not they see more than half their oil.

Again. I hope our leaders don't bend for that greedy orange turd. He pockets SOOO much of the money that belongs to American taxpayers. It's disgusting. I wish he would just curl up under the weight of that addled brain and die. I wish the guy in Butler had not been such a terrible shot.

We won't see as deep a recession as the US will, but I'm pretty sure we will see one. And the price of everything will double and triple this year. The cost of home appliances is already up from last year by about 40% That's the first place I usually see it. Steel and aluminum, you know.

But there is always the admittedly unlikely, but still possible possibility that Hegseth and his morons will invade us. I'll get my dungeon ready for Mr Hate Fuck 😈 Our bears and tree kitties will be so well fed if the stupid Americans tryta do an 0rc invasion like Pooptin. Fuck the Geneva Convention. Canadians are the reason there's a Geneva Convention in the first place. I will (metaphorically ofc) raise my Sword of Anduril and channel our fierce ancestors from the trenches of WW1 to fuck up any stupid hillbilly MAGAt invader that gets through. And that is a promise.

Oh Xena, then where was I born ?

Better watch out for the pumpkin headed boogie man, taking away the tax money, even though he wants to abolish tax.

Like damn, imagine that, no tax like Dubai.

Poilievre isn't that good but at lease he'll ease the capital gains and income taxes, and no carbon tax, or hidden tax via increased prices. 

Pumpkinhead is stealing from the poor and middle class to give tax cuts to billionaires. Duh. Imagine grifting $25million and $50million every year, in addition to interest payments on your inherited billions, and never getting taxed on it. Imagine being such a douche about it that people shoot at you and burn down everything with your name on it. This is why Musk uses his kids as human shields.

Dumb dumb said he wanted 1789 again.  😁 1787 in France is about where the US is right now. 😄 Be careful what you wish for. You might end up losing your head.

Carney is getting rid of the Carbon tax, too.

And Cons ALWAYS increase hidden taxes. Mulroney was the one who stuffed the Senate with his own people to give us the GST, or did you forget so soon? Harper gave us the bus tax so cities could prevent terrorism. Useful in a place like Toronto. But I was living in tiny Sarnia Ontario at the time. Harper offered money for upgrades, but only if our transit commission allowed one of his 'specialists' to ride along for a ridiculous amount of money, thereby cutting the amount of money that actually went to buying new buses in half. Totally useless endeavour. Picture employing a 'specialist ' of that type in Barrie or Cornwall ffs. For you Americans, that's like Mars Hill, Maine. But with less personal gun ownership. No terrorist wants to ride around on a Sarnia bus to blow up our old ppl and their grocery carts ffs.

You said you're from Trinidad and you're either a landed immigrant or a full citizen. You've been here many many years.

Ahead of an election Carney claimed getting rid of carbon tax, and we saw gas prices drop 20 cents. It's a carrot.

Carney also said he'll increase prices and that's where additional taxes will come from.

Mark Carney is Trudeau's economic advisor, and he has business ties with Trump and Musk.

Don't tell me you're voting Liberal now. Use your head, look what they've done to the economy.

All of that stealing from the poor and giving to the rich, that's what's been going on in the US for decades.

Trump is the only President who's net worth went down from being in office. At least that was his first term. As for Elon, he's gone down billions since he got into politics. There are no facts to support your claim, while every American had more money under Trump. 

As for me. I'm a G1 Canadian born here. I have close ties to my heritage cause my entire extended family is over there, and I've been there countless times. I have multiple cultures.