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@Legga: yes he has a plan with the tariffs. But he's sadly mistaken about how tariffs work. He's the big dumb nightclub owner who thinks his income is from his cover charge. No. The cover charge is there to keep the undesirables out.

So if you have the best place in town, with the best musicians or the best strippers, and all the most important and sexiest people go there, your customers will pay that door charge. But if you have a dirty honky tonk that caters to toothless lumpy old rednecks drinking Ugly Turkey and granny's moonshine, nobody will want to pay the door fee. And that's what's happening. Check out what Xi said about the tariffs. I lol'd. 😂😂

Steve Bannon explained it on Lilley Unleashed, and another Dutch economist with a channel called Macro&Money spelled it out pretty thoroughly. Their opinions are a lot more positive than mine, tho. Listen with a clear concept of everything that can go wrong for the US when entire blocs of customers refuse to do business with the US, and dude who normally coughs up the bailout money when the economy tanks says fuck you. Because that's also what's happening.

This is what's going on right now. And a strong likelihood of another plague due to vaccination and food standards being tossed.

Canadians don't want to be down there anymore. Between the plane wrecks and the deregulated poison that's passing for food, now, not to mention ICE (yeah they've scooped up Canadians and locked them up, too) Forget about not profitable. It's not even safe anymore.

My understanding is that they want to use the us dollar's reserve currency status among other leverages to essentially force countries to comply. I.e., the argument is that US has a special status that allows them, and only them, to leverage tariffs in the way Trump is leveraging them. But I'm no economist.

I think Trump's plans are implemented by top economists. It doesn't mean that they're going to work, but they're guaranteed not to fail primary school logic. So whatever their plan is, there's an intent behind it beyond the kind of simplistic analysis that the left is proposing. They have considered these arguments.

Ffs... this funking textbook formatting runtime error bullshit funking drives me nuts.

Actually, you did have a problem with it cause you juuuust went on about Trump crushing my Canada and a list of other damages only the Liberal government delivered.

I don't, but ok. I never made any list either.

The "trade war" isn't what you think. First of all, it never happened for the 2nd time, for reasons you weren't told by your sources and wouldn't believe if I told you now. I'm not just saying this.

I'd say you're not accepting the reality staring you in your face. Your idol is making you bend over backwards and fucking you over so hard that you're losing your mind.

Indeed, there is no amount of evidence that is going to convince me that the trade war is not happening. Because it's happening. Open your eyes. Your idol is making you into a vassal state.

The fact that you're not presenting evidence says that you know there isn't the kind of extraordinary evidence needed to overturn people's views. So instead of showing me this extraordinary evidence that you've hidden away, you instead want some sort of affirmation that I have an open mind. You will have no such thing.

Make your case and respect the process.

Personally I wouldn't mind that.
I like America. There are places in this world who'd love to get annexed. Venezuela, parts of Africa. If Canada gets that bad we'd be blessed to get annexed, with very few downsides to many upsides.
Why do you think it would be such a bad thing to become a US citizen ?

Ok I'm clearly barking up the wrong tree. If you're ok with your country being subjugated by force, then... Good for you I guess?

Maybe you could ask Trump if you could supervise the transition after he's done with you?

> Not targeting energy infrastructure is better

Better than what? Better than nothing?

> Multiple wars are unsustainable.

Yes, you do understand, it has nothing to do with your idealistic notion of peace, and everything to do with money and a realignment of focus to Asia.

> Canada made Trump backtrack

The only reason Trump backtracked was to focus on China.

Yes it's commendable that you're fighting back. However, you realise you're defending the guy who will take every opportunity to fuck you over, right? As soon as he gets the chance, you'll be fucked again.

You're trying to help a guy who, if given the chance, will annex your country. And you're ok with being annexed, according to your own words,

It's driving you nuts cause you drank the kool-aid. It's derangement. You think you're in the right with little knowledge and it's exposing you. Your comfort zone is getting rocked and you don't know where to go, so you'll get angry. 

I on the other hand am having a good time, cause I have real substance while you're just an eco of what you put faith in. 

Trade war. Okay. 

On April 2nd, Trump announced global tariffs in the form of "U.S.A. Discounted Reciprocal Tariffs."

- To the left we have the tariffs charged to the US,

- To the right we have the Discounted Reciprocal Tariffs. ( The tariffs of the boogie man )

For a very long time the world has been eating the US alive in global trade. The Reciprocal Tariffs are basically/roughly/averaging 50% off of what every nation charges the US. The nations with low tariffs get an even match the way it should be

My question to you, or anyone. Do these reciprocal tariffs make it fair for the US yet ? Hmm. I doubt anyone knows the answer.  Personally I do enjoy watching how the MSM is treading around this one, trying to make it look bad. 

Also>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Canada and Mexico aren't listed there. Meanwhile you Legga are having a meltdown over it, while throwing it in my face as if it's a thing that destroyed Canada and we're bound to get annexed. I told you the US really doesn't want Canada to give it's blessings to someone else. It was Canada who supplied the US to be as they are. The weapons, some of US energy, the technologies such as computers various types of aircraft, including jets. All made with Canadian products. 

The truth about Canada is we can do trade with anyone and get rich. We have a fuck ton of critical minerals, more freshwater than anyone precious metals, oil, energy. We got it all with a small population, plus we're returning to having a conservative government and our Prime Minister is descended from Harper himself.   

As for the global tariffs they have been suspended for 90 days while Trump focuses on a real tariff war with China.

Last I heard 50 nations want to renegotiate trade with the US. Trump is indeed very wise, and he doesn't give a damn about dumb people saying bad things about him. That is super cool. Literally, super cool.  

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The Art of the Deal. This is actually kindness despite what the MSM has you thinking. Though at the same time Trump had to dunk on his haters. For us who think for ourselves and see what's before our eyes. It's very interesting to see your mob mentalities. Some of you might have learned something here today, but I imagine you'll scrounge around looking for something else to defend the ego the mainstream media made for you.  

And I get it. Many of you wanted the world to be gay, groom children in kindergarten to be queer, pave the way for pedophiles and have men dunk on real women ( the ones with no dicks okay ) and you'd like us to degenerate into oblivion as our greatest enemies would wish upon us, so you're mad.

The majority will just do what we want instead. 

Jada said: 

Actually, you did have a problem with it cause you juuuust went on about Trump crushing my Canada and a list of other damages only the Liberal government delivered.

I don't, but ok. I never made any list either.

It's your very first response in your first reply to me. It's written here. 

The "trade war" isn't what you think. First of all, it never happened for the 2nd time, for reasons you weren't told by your sources and wouldn't believe if I told you now. I'm not just saying this.

I'd say you're not accepting the reality staring you in your face. Your idol is making you bend over backwards and fucking you over so hard that you're losing your mind.

Indeed, there is no amount of evidence that is going to convince me that the trade war is not happening. Because it's happening. Open your eyes. Your idol is making you into a vassal state.

The fact that you're not presenting evidence says that you know there isn't the kind of extraordinary evidence needed to overturn people's views. So instead of showing me this extraordinary evidence that you've hidden away, you instead want some sort of affirmation that I have an open mind. You will have no such thing.

Make your case and respect the process.

My previous post here, debunks this ^

Personally I wouldn't mind that.
I like America. There are places in this world who'd love to get annexed. Venezuela, parts of Africa. If Canada gets that bad we'd be blessed to get annexed, with very few downsides to many upsides.
Why do you think it would be such a bad thing to become a US citizen ?

Ok I'm clearly barking up the wrong tree. If you're ok with your country being subjugated by force, then... Good for you I guess?

Force would be military. I'm okay with getting richer, and seeing the people I care about living a better life without the need for aid. 

I can see the good and the bad sides to joining the US. The only bad side is Canadians like having socialized healthcare. That is all. Canada would trade in socialized healthcare for becoming a more rich and powerful America. 

Also as I mentioned, if Poilievre can't fix this, then sure let's join the US. I believe he can, Liberal party is dumb. 

Maybe you could ask Trump if you could supervise the transition after he's done with you?

Being childish won't make you right at this point. 

America and Canada are friends, and things are getting better for Canada already. If it weren't for Trump, Trudeau would still be in power. That might upset you, but not this Canadian. 

> Not targeting energy infrastructure is better

Better than what? Better than nothing?

You're not quite quoting me are you. From what I suspect I'd say it's better than pulling the plug on US energy and letting 7 states have a massive blackout. The results would be catastrophic.

> Multiple wars are unsustainable.

Yes, you do understand, it has nothing to do with your idealistic notion of peace, and everything to do with money and a realignment of focus to Asia.

Dude, you can't even tell me what my so called idealistic notion of peace is, you're being creative for argument sake and it's lead you down the road of delusion. Of course it's about money. The whole idea is to stop funding war. It's why I spoke about the tax money being wasted on weapons makers, and why I mentioned the national debt. 

> Canada made Trump backtrack

The only reason Trump backtracked was to focus on China.

False. It's because Canada has upcoming elections this month. Trump will discuss trade with Poilievre. 

Yes it's commendable that you're fighting back. However, you realise you're defending the guy who will take every opportunity to fuck you over, right? As soon as he gets the chance, you'll be fucked again.

Fighting would entail name calling and not providing any substance. Legga. 

You're trying to help a guy who, if given the chance, will annex your country. And you're ok with being annexed, according to your own words,

 I'd be totally fine with being annexed. Canada is so bad, we have immigrants moving back to India, and many of us want to leave Canada. The ones who complain are poor people, like Xena over there. Her life is shit, and it's even more shit with inflation and a weak loonie, and when opportunity to have a better life comes alone, pride keeps her in check.

"Pride cometh before the fall" and Canada has fallen and is falling. This has already turned around with the end of Liberal rule imminent this month. If Canada continued down that path we'd turn into a real shithole before evaporating from corrupt non patriotic government selling off Canada's resources to fill their own pockets.

If I were American I'd buy a gun. With a broken Liberal economy comes a lot of crime, home evasion is a normal thing here now, where 6 armed guys will break into one's home looking for your car keys. Sometimes shots are fired.

In Canada only the bad guys are armed. If a good guy uses his weapon in self defence, legal and illegal, he will go to jail. That's Canada for you, and I along with many Canadians are ready to move out. 

Still I want Poilievre to fix this, cause before Trudeau, Canada was a better place to live than the US. 

Sure Toby. Go and live in the US without your free healthcare and see how good that feels.

The Canadians who want to become Americans number in the 10 000s. So they can suck the royal orange arse on their own dime. Yourself included. Go and apply for citizenship if you think it's so awesome there.

Didn't you say you were on disability and topping up your income with crypto? Bad idea to move to the US right now. Haven't you been following the 2 Latino guys that Pumpkinhead disappeared and sent to that El Salvadoran gulag? Bizzarro World Sally Struthers (Press Secretary Leavitt) is spinning and spinning. But the fact remains. Neither of those 2 men committed any crimes.

So I double dawg dare you. Rent a car and go to the US for 3 weeks and see what happens to you. 😁

Oh... And you might as well test your theory and shoot some bad guys while you're down there. 😂😂

Spatial, you're not listening.

Quote me on any of that MSM bullshit you're attacking and show me where I made an argument that was *anything* like what you're attacking there. You will find no such quote.

Seriously, you need to stop imagining everyone who talks with you is like a brainwashed caricature of a person representing what you think is "the left."

I see now what you did there. Yes, the trade war is nothing like I imagine it to be. Because, you think, I imagine to be like something you heard in right wing media those leftist idiots *must* be thinking.

What do I actually think of the trade war? First and foremost I think it's a trade war. You seemingly didn't agree, but it is, according to the fucking dictionary. So this is my appeal to the Oxford dictionary. Not very controversial.

My second claim is that Trump is acting to further America's interests at the economic cost of other countries. Not a very controversial take now is it, given that his slogan is America first?

Then I made the claim that Trump wants to Annex Canada by (economic) force. Also not a controversial statement, is it, when he himself said it.

I was going to make the claim that you're working against your interests. However, I realise I was wrong. I didn't think you'd be so.... traitorous as to have no patriotism in you. You'd be fine with your own country being annexed through economic coercion. Your words, not mine. I gracefully admit I was wrong, but only because I thought you wouldn't adopt such crazy views over admitting your idol is screwing you over.

Then I claimed that Trump is harming the Canadian economy. Also not a controversial take given that Trump declared a trade war on Canada.

Now stop saying I support the views of MSM or whatever. Because I don't. Otherwise, quote me.

Zena said: 

Sure Toby. Go and live in the US without your free healthcare and see how good that feels.

The Canadians who want to become Americans number in the 10 000s. So they can suck the royal orange arse on their own dime. Yourself included. Go and apply for citizenship if you think it's so awesome there.

 

Didn't you say you were on disability and topping up your income with crypto? Bad idea to move to the US right now. Haven't you been following the 2 Latino guys that Pumpkinhead disappeared and sent to that El Salvadoran gulag? Bizzarro World Sally Struthers (Press Secretary Leavitt) is spinning and spinning. But the fact remains. Neither of those 2 men committed any crimes.

 

So I double dawg dare you. Rent a car and go to the US for 3 weeks and see what happens to you. 😁

 I never claimed to be on disability.

Right now the US is a better place to live than Canada. Easier to buy things.

Jada said: 

Spatial, you're not listening.

Quote me on any of that MSM bullshit you're attacking and show me where I made an argument that was *anything* like what you're attacking there. You will find no such quote.

Seriously, you need to stop imagining everyone who talks with you is like a brainwashed caricature of a person representing what you think is "the left."

I see now what you did there. Yes, the trade war is nothing like I imagine it to be. Because, you think, I imagine to be like something you heard in right wing media those leftist idiots *must* be thinking.

What do I actually think of the trade war? First and foremost I think it's a trade war. You seemingly didn't agree, but it is, according to the fucking dictionary. So this is my appeal to the Oxford dictionary. Not very controversial.

My second claim is that Trump is acting to further America's interests at the economic cost of other countries. Not a very controversial take now is it, given that his slogan is America first?

Then I made the claim that Trump wants to Annex Canada by (economic) force. Also not a controversial statement, is it, when he himself said it.

I was going to make the claim that you're working against your interests. However, I realise I was wrong. I didn't think you'd be so.... traitorous as to have no patriotism in you. You'd be fine with your own country being annexed through economic coercion. Your words, not mine. I gracefully admit I was wrong, but only because I thought you wouldn't adopt such crazy views over admitting your idol is screwing you over.

Then I claimed that Trump is harming the Canadian economy. Also not a controversial take given that Trump declared a trade war on Canada.

Now stop saying I support the views of MSM or whatever. Because I don't. Otherwise, quote me.

 Look how your response is all, i, i, i.

Why don't you comment on the data I posted. 

The US proposed roughly 50% discount retaliatory tariffs on 51 nations, except nations with low tariffs, and not including Canada.

Who is tariffing who more, and who has always tariffed who more ?

Does it mean war if the US starts seeking fair trade ?

The answers to that are simple but, I doubt you're able to backtrack toward common sense.