Yes and you're going to the gas chamber on a bullet train
And what, in your mind, does that solve? One step further to a dead past?
Imperfect Priest of Determinism
I know that some of our members here are strongly pro-trump, and now I'm curious about their reaction. Seeing their stocks plummeting, not even they can ignore the damage now.
When it comes to investing we have weak hands, and strong hands. Though it sounds feeble the term weak hand isn't an insult, it's what any holder is when they first get into an investment and it hasn't moved.
The weak hand will suffer when the markets crash, no matter how big the capital investment.
Trump's crash fell down 27% then bounced back up to -13% ( from the previous top where a weak hand invested. )
Most investors have strong hands and won't panic sell when there's a market dip. As a matter of fact some investors boasted this cycle when they bought that dip.
Also look at the previous dip in 2022. That is a -37% dip ( That chart is the NASDAQ where each candle represents 1 week ) so it took much longer to recover, but there was no outrage.
Maybe they didn't care about minorities or other people, but if it hurts their own wallet it's gotta do something to them, right?
Well Xadem, some of us actually are minorities. I'm the biggest minority on this site tbh, there are less than 1.3 million of me in the world. I'm pro MAGA cause I understand it, and I'm not even a US citizen.
Sometimes it feels like the stock market is the only thing US conservatives care about, making it a good opportunity for reflection.
I'd argue you're guilty of that Xadem. You are after all taking the opportunity to reflect on your understanding of the markets performance.
I do think you're the type to prance around every time a market crashes. I saw that in you before and here we are again. Though the markets are much higher now aren't they. It's just everytime there's a dip, you'll make like it's the end.
It's becoming harder to deny the catastrophic effects the Trump administration has not only on Americans, but on the entire world.
Well. In Canada, Trump has crushed the Trudeau dynasty, his own party insisted he step down because he's proven too weak to deal with Trump.
- We have stronger borders, not only for what may go into the states, but what will come out of it, and trust me we get a lot of illegal shit coming from the states.
- We have a federal election April 28th. We were expecting it to happen in October, but it's happening the hell right now.
- Trudeau the idiot invested 20 billion to Ukraine, and now there's a ceasefire. The ceasefire is Trump's work again.
- Ceasefire between Hamas and Israel. Trump again.
- The Taliban wants dialog with the US and wants to trade. Trump again.
President Trump is the president of peace.
After ignoring how people are being sent to slave labour camps, judicial due processes being ignored, imperialist territorial claims being made and journalists censored...
Sounds like WWII, with the Nazi's putting Jews to slave labor. I don't think that's happening today. In China it says there are forced labor camps for the incarcerated. I think that's fine, would you like America to free them ?
That all wasn't enough to break the narrative. Is it now? Or will trumpists double down and pretend there is a masterplan for us all, instead of just for those few at the top?
The master plan in the enrich the American people. Not drive them into the ground as previous administrations have been doing for a very long time.
I myself wrote about Trump's economy doing poorly at first. That is because the economy will need to realign and it won't just happen overnight. Tariffs are a thing, always has been. Your sources don't really program you to understand what's happening with them though.
Well. In Canada, Trump has crushed the Trudeau dynasty, his own party insisted he step down because he's proven too weak to deal with Trump.
He also crushed your economy.
At least you're saying thank you.
The ceasefire is Trump's work again.
There is no ceasefire.
It's interesting that I need to tell a Canadian not to love the guy who is fucking them over.
For me, the Trump illusion is over. Before I was saying here that Trump would be a better candidate than Kamala. In hindsight, I was wrong. However, with the evidence that I had at hand, I would say I didn't do that poorly in my assessment. I thought he would not be this batshit crazy.
I will however say this. Contrary to the popular opinion, I do think Trump has a plan with his tariffs. I think he wants to realign the global economy, fix local industry, and compete with China. I dont know if he will succeed, I dont have the expertise. However, his goals do not align with what I think is good for the world.
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Well. In Canada, Trump has crushed the Trudeau dynasty, his own party insisted he step down because he's proven too weak to deal with Trump.He also crushed your economy.At least you're saying thank you.
Not just saying this, but that was a very foolish reply Legga.
It was Trudeau who damaged the Canadian economy.
As you can see Canada was on par with the US, even had slight moments where the Loonie was worth more than the USD.
Before Trudeau we had the Harper Government. A conservative government.
Under Harper ( Living legend btw ) Canada was the only nation in the world to have a surplus at the end of every year.
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Feel free to explain how Trump, as you say, crushed the Canadian economy. Though I don't think you can present any real substance with receipts.
The ceasefire is Trump's work again.There is no ceasefire.
Developing story as we speak. Russia accuses Ukraine of failing to ceasefire. Both agreed to a 30 day ceasefire while a peace deal is in the making.
The US shouldn't spend another trillion so US weapons makers can profit from war. It's corrupt, and this, and what's coming is better.
It's interesting that I need to tell a Canadian not to love the guy who is fucking them over.
He fucked the Liberal party yes, showed the world how weak and stupid they are.
Feel free to give me a damage report, I posted mine in my previous post.
For me, the Trump illusion is over. Before I was saying here that Trump would be a better candidate than Kamala. In hindsight, I was wrong. However, with the evidence that I had at hand, I would say I didn't do that poorly in my assessment. I thought he would not be this batshit crazy.
Kamala was handed a billion dollars and blew it all in a few months on what ? Tell me what she spent blew it on Legga. Foolery was it ?
She's also 20 million in debt from mismanaged funds and look at her policies. "Sex changes for inmates."
Faggot. The majority doesn't care about dumb shit.
I will however say this. Contrary to the popular opinion, I do think Trump has a plan with his tariffs. I think he wants to realign the global economy, fix local industry, and compete with China. I dont know if he will succeed, I dont have the expertise. However, his goals do not align with what I think is good for the world.
That part I underlined. It's hollow isn't it. It has no good reasoning behind it, otherwise you'd say what it is about his goals that are bad for the world.
Not just saying this, but that was a very foolish reply Legga.It was Trudeau who damaged the Canadian economy.
I have no problem with the notion that Trudeau damaged the Canadian economy.
Feel free to explain how Trump, as you say, crushed the Canadian economy. Though I don't think you can present any real substance with receipts.
I'm talking about the trade war.
He wants to either make you into a vassal state who pays tribute to the US or into the 51st US state.
Even people like Jordan Peterson no longer tout the trump rhetoric because they're realising how bad they got their asses beaten.
You guys are going to become the 51st state. You should say thank you. Maybe he will only make you into a vassal state.
There is no ceasefire
Developing story as we speak. Russia accuses Ukraine of failing to ceasefire. Both agreed to a 30 day ceasefire while a peace deal is in the making.
Thanks for admitting there is no ceasefire. Let's say there's a ceasefire when there actually is one, so sticking with facts, instead of claiming there's a ceasefire when you know there isn't one.
The US shouldn't spend another trillion so US weapons makers can profit from war. It's corrupt, and this, and what's coming is better.
Let's all say what the real reason is: China. Us wants to shift its focus to Asia. That's why we are handing Ukraine on a silver platter when in contrast Europe fought and died in USA's war on terror.
You think Trump gives a shit about peace? This is all a strategic move. Stop being naive.
It's interesting that I need to tell a Canadian not to love the guy who is fucking them over.He fucked the Liberal party yes, showed the world how weak and stupid they are.
He also factually is making you all bend over. You are going to become a vassal state.
But at least as a Canadian you're saying thank you.
Feel free to give me a damage report, I posted mine in my previous post.
Is the trade war and the fact you're going to become a vassal state enough?
Kamala was handed a billion dollars and blew it all in a few months on what ? Tell me what she spent blew it on Legga. Foolery was it ?She's also 20 million in debt from mismanaged funds and look at her policies. "Sex changes for inmates."Faggot. The majority doesn't care about dumb shit.
To be clear, I don't support Kamala. However, she didn't shake the whole global order, fuck over Canada, fuck over Ukraine, and fuck over all other US partners.
Maybe bend over and say thank you?
I will however say this. Contrary to the popular opinion, I do think Trump has a plan with his tariffs. I think he wants to realign the global economy, fix local industry, and compete with China. I dont know if he will succeed, I dont have the expertise. However, his goals do not align with what I think is good for the world.That part I underlined. It's hollow isn't it. It has no good reasoning behind it, otherwise you'd say what it is about his goals that are bad for the world.
His goals are to push US interest at the cost of everyone else.
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I never had any illusions about Cheetolini. I thought he was a joke in 2011 cuz I'm a long time Colbert fan. And Colbert has made a career out of mocking that retard. I sincerely thought that him getting on the ballot was Hilary... Or maybe Bill being clever and trolling. Because what moron would vote to give the nuclear codes to that idiot? Like the slick politician who chose to run against a dog... But the stupid animal won ffs.
If anything, my illusions were about the strength of the US system of checks and balances. I thought that Congress could hold him in check... More or less... Like they did last time.
Wrong. America is holding on by a thread.
I'm not all that worried about Canada. Carney has a PhD in Economics and 20 years in banking. He's the most conservative Lib I've ever seen. But he's what we need right now. Peter Pecker is tRump Lite. So just no.
And Legga, don't be fooled by the propaganda. Carney went to an emergency meeting in Europe right after the Libs made him PM. Canada and Japan and China... And I think a few other countries? Dumped their US bonds.
Oh, and the US gets 60% of their oil from us. 😎
We got this. 😉
@Legga: yes he has a plan with the tariffs. But he's sadly mistaken about how tariffs work. He's the big dumb nightclub owner who thinks his income is from his cover charge. No. The cover charge is there to keep the undesirables out.
So if you have the best place in town, with the best musicians or the best strippers, and all the most important and sexiest people go there, your customers will pay that door charge. But if you have a dirty honky tonk that caters to toothless lumpy old rednecks drinking Ugly Turkey and granny's moonshine, nobody will want to pay the door fee. And that's what's happening. Check out what Xi said about the tariffs. I lol'd. 😂😂
Steve Bannon explained it on Lilley Unleashed, and another Dutch economist with a channel called Macro&Money spelled it out pretty thoroughly. Their opinions are a lot more positive than mine, tho. Listen with a clear concept of everything that can go wrong for the US when entire blocs of customers refuse to do business with the US, and dude who normally coughs up the bailout money when the economy tanks says fuck you. Because that's also what's happening.
This is what's going on right now. And a strong likelihood of another plague due to vaccination and food standards being tossed.
Canadians don't want to be down there anymore. Between the plane wrecks and the deregulated poison that's passing for food, now, not to mention ICE (yeah they've scooped up Canadians and locked them up, too) Forget about not profitable. It's not even safe anymore.
Not just saying this, but that was a very foolish reply Legga.It was Trudeau who damaged the Canadian economy.I have no problem with the notion that Trudeau damaged the Canadian economy.
Actually, you did have a problem with it cause you juuuust went on about Trump crushing my Canada and a list of other damages only the Liberal government delivered.
Feel free to explain how Trump, as you say, crushed the Canadian economy. Though I don't think you can present any real substance with receipts.I'm talking about the trade war.He wants to either make you into a vassal state who pays tribute to the US or into the 51st US state.
The "trade war" isn't what you think. First of all, it never happened for the 2nd time, for reasons you weren't told by your sources and wouldn't believe if I told you now. I'm not just saying this.
If the Liberals win this federal election, it's because they stole it. Canadians with the exception of some idiots are done with the Liberal party, for life.
The point I'm trying to make is, if the Liberals win, then Canadians will want to move to America, and many of us would beg to become a state.
Alberta will separate from Canada if Poilievre doesn't win.
In my opinion, if Canada got annexed the USD will jump 70% and it'll be ours too. Many Canadians need affordability back in their lives and a dollar that jump 130% while prices across the board get's slashed is a good thing. America and Canada would be enriched.
Trump says the US doesn't need Canada, but they do and always did.
Even people like Jordan Peterson no longer tout the trump rhetoric because they're realising how bad they got their asses beaten.
Peterson was never big on Trump and often suggested he's too divisive. What rhetoric are you actually referring to ?
You guys are going to become the 51st state. You should say thank you. Maybe he will only make you into a vassal state.
Personally I wouldn't mind that.
I like America. There are places in this world who'd love to get annexed. Venezuela, parts of Africa. If Canada gets that bad we'd be blessed to get annexed, with very few downsides to many upsides.
Why do you think it would be such a bad thing to become a US citizen ?
There is no ceasefire
Developing story as we speak. Russia accuses Ukraine of failing to ceasefire. Both agreed to a 30 day ceasefire while a peace deal is in the making.
Thanks for admitting there is no ceasefire. Let's say there's a ceasefire when there actually is one, so sticking with facts, instead of claiming there's a ceasefire when you know there isn't one.
Hamas and Israel had one.
Russia and Ukraine they'll try again, maybe sooner than. Putin agreed to a 30 day energy infrastructure ceasefire last month. This in itself is better.
The US shouldn't spend another trillion so US weapons makers can profit from war. It's corrupt, and this, and what's coming is better.
Let's all say what the real reason is: China. Us wants to shift its focus to Asia. That's why we are handing Ukraine on a silver platter when in contrast Europe fought and died in USA's war on terror.
You think Trump gives a shit about peace? This is all a strategic move. Stop being naive.
Naive ? You're the one who thinks Trump is a Russian agent In 2025 at that, and the only reason you think so is because you trusted the mainstream media without any evidence. Your mind won't change until it's prompted to.
Multiple wars are unsustainable. The American people paid for Iraq and Afghanistan. Left all the tax money military hardware behind, replaced all that hardware more money, and now dummies want the US to fund a war Ukraine cannot win. Just send Ukrainian men to die, and sure some Russians die too.
The US is 33 trillion+ in debt last I looked. Peace negotiations are being proposed, not hand over Ukraine and let's go after China like you fabricate.
Ukraine doesn't get the money, Lockheed Martin and other weapons makers gets it while dummies pick sides and call for the death of a nation. It's corrupt. In a way you want it this way don't you. Save Ukraine at the cost of one's own nation.
It's interesting that I need to tell a Canadian not to love the guy who is fucking them over.He fucked the Liberal party yes, showed the world how weak and stupid they are.He also factually is making you all bend over. You are going to become a vassal state.But at least as a Canadian you're saying thank you.
You probably missed it, but Canada made Trump backtrack.
The truth is Canada doesn't need the US.
The US never subsidized Canada, and we've went and fought alongside and died in multiple US wars.
If Canada halts energy trade 7 states will go black. Canada has no problem with energy. No issue with fresh water. We supply the US with 35 critical minerals so the US can build technologies such as planes, jets, computers. We supply the US with Uranium too. This is Ontario alone.
Canada can cut off its fresh water from flowing into the states.
All of that is horrible stuff and the world is wide open to buying out the blessings meant for the US.
We also smoke the US in trade cause the US economy is 10 times larger, we can meet it's denand, and we can't possibly consume as much as they do.
"It was Trump who thanked the Premiere of Ontario for not pulling the plug."
Other than that it's been splendid, Trudeau was forced by his own party to step down. Carney stepped in to play Prime Minister while no one elected him. Canada knows Carney was Trudeau's economic advisor too.
Yes the Liberal party in Canada is destroyed thanks to President Trump. Federal election coming this month.
Feel free to give me a damage report, I posted mine in my previous post.Is the trade war and the fact you're going to become a vassal state enough?
The trade war isn't what you think it is. It's not even a trade war like you were told. I can show you but I don't think you'd have the capacity to accept the truth when it's presented to you.
Kamala was handed a billion dollars and blew it all in a few months on what ? Tell me what she spent blew it on Legga. Foolery was it ?She's also 20 million in debt from mismanaged funds and look at her policies. "Sex changes for inmates."Faggot. The majority doesn't care about dumb shit.To be clear, I don't support Kamala. However, she didn't shake the whole global order, fuck over Canada, fuck over Ukraine, and fuck over all other US partners.Maybe bend over and say thank you?
Lol. The US is the one being fucked over. And no, Trump never fucked over Canada or Mexico or any nation.
Dude you don't even have numbers. If you look you just might find what I never told you.
I will however say this. Contrary to the popular opinion, I do think Trump has a plan with his tariffs. I think he wants to realign the global economy, fix local industry, and compete with China. I dont know if he will succeed, I dont have the expertise. However, his goals do not align with what I think is good for the world.That part I underlined. It's hollow isn't it. It has no good reasoning behind it, otherwise you'd say what it is about his goals that are bad for the world.
His goals are to push US interest at the cost of everyone else.
US interests aren't what it was with the DNC. Trump wants to eliminate tax. Shrink the government and not expand it. That's why he hired Elon. Trump wants to stop wasteful spending. He wants wars done and over, not to carry on.
You speak like a domestic enemy of the west. Not quite like a jihad, but you do claim to be against American interests.
You also claimed to find evidence that Kamala would've been better. Even Biden called her a DEI hire.