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What rights does a western man have, that their western counterparts do not ?

( Real counterparts with wombs only please. )

Bodily autonomy's the common answer right now, but a lot of what's left as issues are related to safety, economics, being accepted into leadership roles, and double standards within gender perception these days. 

Obviously there's other countries where it's worse, I'm not denying that, but progress shouldn't go to a grinding halt when doing better than their neighbors. 

That being said, there are states within the US where women are treated blatantly as second class citizens, and even within more relatively progressive or socially modernized states you still see them treated as if "weak" or "ineffective" when compared with a man. This is not an issue as a matter of rights on paper so much as the perception by society that works against equal opportunity, and that's going to take social change rather than changing the system itself. 

 Which states?  Which professions or roles?  Please be specific.

The Deep South is a good place to start critiquing this country, but it sprawls further than just the part of America most people would prefer to pretend doesn't exist. 

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What rights does a western man have, that their western counterparts do not ?

( Real counterparts with wombs only please. )

Bodily autonomy's the common answer right now, but a lot of what's left as issues are related to safety, economics, being accepted into leadership roles, and double standards within gender perception these days. 

When a couple has a kid on the way, and the man wants the kid but the woman wants to abort it, then who gets their way ? Keep in mind abortion isn't banned. 


Right: "Abortion isn't banned"

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."

Right: "So drive to a state where it's legal." 

Left: "They tried already to lock it to your State ID so you couldn't do that." 

Right: "Well killing the unborn is wrong anyway."

Left: "It's just a cluster of cells, women shouldn't have to throw away their lives over that." 

Right: "Then she shouldn't be sleeping around and practicing unsafe sex." 

Left: "So this is about punishing the woman?"

Right: "It's not about punishment, it's about holding them accountable."

Left: "Accountable for what, having sex?"

Right: "You try having sex with someone of the opposite sex, see what happens."

Left: "But it doesn't have to happen if we have Abortions and Contraception."

Right: "Those aren't banned though, if they're smart they'll plan ahead and if they're stupid it's not banned." 

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."


/rinse repeat the cycle

If the man wants a baby and the woman doesn't, why doesn't the man get a baby out of someone else? 

I've had many jobs. Worked in construction 3 times, and I only saw a woman with a hardhat once ever.

Meanwhile we see women beginning to dominate college educated fields while focusing more on social programs and healthcare. There are natural predisposed advantages to each sex purely over the proclivity for T vs E balances as well as other genetic factors in spite of enough exceptions to the norm existing. 

Even within that though you'll see them making less than a man of the same status occupationally, more often than not, over sexist elements that still persist today. Sure it's less than earlier points in history, but we shouldn't just stop when it's not finished equalizing yet. 

Obviously there's other countries where it's worse, I'm not denying that, but progress shouldn't go to a grinding halt when doing better than their neighbors.

As a reminder, most pro lifers are women.

Even if we ignore how more pro lifers are men than women, does this mean you think it's okay for women to tell other women what they can and can't do with their bodies? 

Kind of a nothing argument imo, neither gender should be limiting another woman's bodily autonomy. 

Many women, including school girls aren't comfortable taking showers with men in the changeroom, or in the washroom. Some people who are against that are women also. Women are not to be called cis women, while men take the name woman for themselves and crush them at sports.

Bit of a tangent isn't it? 

How many men are doing this? For real, how many? 

That is wrong on so many levels. Nor is it good to groom children to choose a gender from kindergarten while they are still in development then fuck them up with puberty blockers and other forms of experimental mutilation. 

Educating people on tolerance is not the same thing as grooming people towards puberty blockers and HRT treatments. 

If you want to be mad at anyone over that, go after the doctors in Big Pharma. Even within your own POV, people in drag reading stories to kids shouldn't be seen as any worse than having a party clown do it. 

To many people, actually, the majority, none of that shit is okay. You can still be as you are, but it's not cool to lawfully force compliance when people find such cases pretentious.

What's the alternative to tolerance though? 

Are you saying it'd be better to correctively bully these people, a demographic already more prone to suicide than the norm? 

That being said, there are states within the US where women are treated blatantly as second class citizens, and even within more relatively progressive or socially modernized states you still see them treated as if "weak" or "ineffective" when compared with a man. This is not an issue as a matter of rights on paper so much as the perception by society that works against equal opportunity, and that's going to take social change rather than changing the system itself. 

Sounds like victim mentality. 

So you would say women are just as strong as men, and you're ready for us to have a female president? 

You ever see this trans complain about the downside of being a guy ? How easy women have it. 

Dude you keep making it about Trans people during a discussion about Women, but yeah I've heard lots of trans people complain about lack of equality in general rather than hyperfocusing on just their own story. 

I feel like you're changing the goalposts over how they're an easier target than the problems women face. 

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Women are born with inherent value, it then dwindles with time. They cling onto their beauty as they age. Women are generally treated better than men even when they're no longer in their prime. 

I'd argue that both genders are born with inherent potential that has the room to be transformed into value within the right constraints. 

That being said, men by the virtue of living in a Patriarchal structure maintain value for longer due to how the wealth culture enables it. The rhetoric even tries to fetishize silver hair and sharp features on older men while calling women of the same caliber Cougars as a derogatory term. At most you see women, over being seen as "weaker" relatively speaking, pampered by The Patriarchy as a reward for their Learned Helplessness. 

An old woman will be seen, as you put it, less valuable in spite of how they are inherently just as valuable as an older man. The only real argument that can be made over age is egg viability vs sperm viability over how one can go about it for longer than the other typically, but both genders are rolling the dice as they get older over the increased risks of defective offspring. 

In short, the only reason the above view is the case is because of inherent outcomes of The Patriarchy. By contrast I was raised in an arguably Matriarchal home (rather than feminist which is about equality) within a Patriarchal society and naturally my views reflect that instead. 

What does "treated as weak" even mean ? Are they generally being smacked around by men at the daycare or hospital ? In the office perhaps?

By being told enough times that they are otherwise 'less than a man', it conditioned learned helplessness. It's not just those who assault women that perpetuate this situation, it's also those who'd insist on being some sort of Man-Hero. 

I find it interesting how The Right can claim that, racially, telling people that they need help and can't achieve as much without government aid or DEI hires is weakening them, yet they can't seem to see it the same way about Women when they hold the door open for them and insist they need a Man to protect them from other bad Men. 

In my opinion most people are ineffective at most things, it's why we tend to specialize in a trade and go for it. Feminists usually encourage women to compete with men in fields they themselves are not a part of. Fields that are usually male dominated. 

Feminism doesn't encourage women to compete with men so much as encourages them to do so if they wouldn't have done it because of their gender. 

There are inherent differences, but for those who don't conform to the expected norms they shouldn't be limited to only fields that serve the majority.

If a woman is born with the capacity to be a superior soldier when compared to most men, why should she be barred from military service? 

There wasn't too many female digital animators when I did it.

My graduating class of digital artists had more women than men, and the teachers were split down the middle with barely a female majority. 

All we get out of these statements is that we've had contrasting experiences. I don't even know what years you went to college, let alone anything about the campus itself or where it's located, so we don't really glean much from this. 

I remember this one in college, we were doing walk cycles. I said I'm doing a sexy walk cycle and she instantly started competing with me. She used to laugh and joke around a lot in class, get guys to help her out. One time she brought a guy friend and introduced him to everyone ( except me lol ) I was finalizing my first project. My first time batching rendering, I had about a dozen computers sending frames to a server. She was way behind and not even close to finishing. She was in trouble, and she says to me "You better not hog up all of the computers !" She was pissed. I just told her if she starts batching rendering then I'll give her half. 

There are other stories when it comes to that one but the point I'm making is I found her to be more of a distraction or a hindrance. She was all about taking me out. I had the best final project and she'd fight tooth and nail to insist to be the last for critiques, which is suicide. Never go after the best when the instructors are judging.   

TLDR; There was a woman in the class who was friendly with her classmates, she was brave enough to speak among 'the boys', and then she got reasonably worried over her project when you hogged all of the computers in a public computer lab. Following that you found her foolish for wanting to go last for critiques. 

...and then your takeaway from it is that women are distracting? 🤨

In the field I had this one female she was a type of manager, and we were doing something on the side. Boss wanted to branch out and make action figures and use 3D printing and wanted a colour 3D printer. I told him they are shit, but he wouldn't hear it. He was about to spend a fortune on some crazy ass machine that will end up making a model that was as durable as shortbread, which would've been an issue when we get into casting.

My campus had a 3D printer and it was pretty badass. I totally understand throwing money into a budding field that has that much potential. 

So the female manager assigned me to write her a report on what's the best method to go about this, which machines are best, why not use this and that etc. I submitted 2 pages, and she was so impressed. She was like THATS TALLENT ! But y'know, I pretty much did her job for her. I'm the CG guy and it I wasn't get paid to do her work. She was also my superior, for some reason, but whatever.  She also got credit for saving the day. 

So this is about you putting her down over you feeling like you did all the work for her? 

Management delegates, that's literally their job. You seem fine with Trump doing this so why not her? 

The boss himself was very obnoxious. Maybe even envious. I think he'd always want to undermine me as a way of making me work harder or avoid paying me more, cause I was the true #1 and everyone knew it. 

Everyone, huh? 

If everyone knew then what else was going on? 

That field is male dominated, and while I've seen ineffectiveness in men, I've seen it in women just about every single time. 

If that's what you're geared to look for you'll cherry pick your perceptions and seemingly find it all over the place, and judging from the above you were more focused on your own craft anyway. 

By contrast I've seen women do better than men typically unless it's something that requires a literal caveman. 

If a western woman waits around for a man to tell her what to do, that's on her.

So we're just supposed to ignore how society impacts the individual? 

In many cases they do nothing then blame men for them not doing anything as if men are supposed to tone it down for the ladies and not apply themselves to opportunities. In 2024 everyone is having a hard time. Then..... There are those women are good at what they do and have good positions, but you don't want to talk about them do you. 

A few exceptions don't negate sociological statistics. You can't be like "The Kardashians are doing super well" as a way to explain that women overall are thriving. 

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If a woman is born with the capacity to be a superior soldier when compared to most men, why should she be barred from military service? 

 She should be in the military based on her merit. Those are extreme outliers though.

 

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If a woman is born with the capacity to be a superior soldier when compared to most men, why should she be barred from military service? 

She should be in the military based on her merit. Those are extreme outliers though.  

Military service is a lot of things, it's not just combat. There's medics, there's engineers, there's bomb disposal, there's the cooks, there's even people who could use a computer to pilot a drone strike or perform research. The military is a lot of things, it's not just grunts with guns. 

If it is based on merit, then women are fine in the military as long as they end up where they're most needed. If women are supposedly more nurturing, then wouldn't they be more suited for Peacekeeping missions when compared to men? Women are also better with language than men generally, so wouldn't they make superior diplomats and foreign affairs workers when compared to men? 

Maybe we ought to get men out of the military as the world modernizes. 

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Bodily autonomy's the common answer right now, but a lot of what's left as issues are related to safety, economics, being accepted into leadership roles, and double standards within gender perception these days. 

When a couple has a kid on the way, and the man wants the kid but the woman wants to abort it, then who gets their way ? Keep in mind abortion isn't banned. 


Right: "Abortion isn't banned"

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."

Right: "So drive to a state where it's legal." 

Left: "They tried already to lock it to your State ID so you couldn't do that." 

Right: "Well killing the unborn is wrong anyway."

Left: "It's just a cluster of cells, women shouldn't have to throw away their lives over that." 

Right: "Then she shouldn't be sleeping around and practicing unsafe sex." 

Left: "So this is about punishing the woman?"

Right: "It's not about punishment, it's about holding them accountable."

Left: "Accountable for what, having sex?"

Right: "You try having sex with someone of the opposite sex, see what happens."

Left: "But it doesn't have to happen if we have Abortions and Contraception."

Right: "Those aren't banned though, if they're smart they'll plan ahead and if they're stupid it's not banned." 

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."


/rinse repeat the cycle

If the man wants a baby and the woman doesn't, why doesn't the man get a baby out of someone else? 

It's legal for US citizens to travel to other states to have abortions, period. I'm assuming you're now lying to support your weak claims.

Fiction aside I believe the question was whose choice is it.

( Spoiler: It's hers ) 

I've had many jobs. Worked in construction 3 times, and I only saw a woman with a hardhat once ever.

Meanwhile we see women beginning to dominate college educated fields while focusing more on social programs and healthcare. There are natural predisposed advantages to each sex purely over the proclivity for T vs E balances as well as other genetic factors in spite of enough exceptions to the norm existing. 

Even within that though you'll see them making less than a man of the same status occupationally, more often than not, over sexist elements that still persist today. Sure it's less than earlier points in history, but we shouldn't just stop when it's not finished equalizing yet. 

Gender pay gap is a bogus claim. The modern workspace has become very tense when it comes to etiquette on how men must behave around female coworkers. To think women are getting paid less at all is laughable. 

Statistics indicate men do more overtime. The pay is the same. Job titles start with base pay and no employer simply pays more based on gender.

Rachel Maddow just took a 5 million dollar pay cut and now earns 25 million a year, for going on air once a week, and we seen her crying about gender pay gap and got schooled.

 

Obviously there's other countries where it's worse, I'm not denying that, but progress shouldn't go to a grinding halt when doing better than their neighbors.

As a reminder, most pro lifers are women.

Even if we ignore how more pro lifers are men than women, does this mean you think it's okay for women to tell other women what they can and can't do with their bodies? 

Kind of a nothing argument imo, neither gender should be limiting another woman's bodily autonomy. 

As your body is yours, your aborted siblings before you had their rights violated. The argument is the fetus is a separate entity and not her body.

Of course I'm arguing with someone who thinks it's okay to kill newborns after birth.

 

Many women, including school girls aren't comfortable taking showers with men in the changeroom, or in the washroom. Some people who are against that are women also. Women are not to be called cis women, while men take the name woman for themselves and crush them at sports.

Bit of a tangent isn't it? 

How many men are doing this? For real, how many? 

On stage you'd be laughed at with that reply.

No one wants any of that foolishness normalized. If it were, the US would become weak and depopulated and conquered. It would be the end of the free world on planet Earth which lets you be a faggot in the first place, but that stuff is destructive and oppressive.

 

That is wrong on so many levels. Nor is it good to groom children to choose a gender from kindergarten while they are still in development then fuck them up with puberty blockers and other forms of experimental mutilation. 

Educating people on tolerance is not the same thing as grooming people towards puberty blockers and HRT treatments.

Fine, but that's a different subject. Teaching kids to be secretive with their parents and preaching multiple genders by people who appear bright and sparkly to preschoolers is a way of indoctrinating children to be queer. The statics of queer people in the US has spiked with the Gen Z's who had to endure these ideologies in the classroom, many of them are in deep regret for trusting what they were told.



If you want to be mad at anyone over that, go after the doctors in Big Pharma. Even within your own POV, people in drag reading stories to kids shouldn't be seen as any worse than having a party clown do it. 

Drag is an erotic art form. Garter belts, nylons, high heels. We do not send women to kindergarten classes dressed like pole dancers. Men who do that are in many cases pedophiles. 

 

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To many people, actually, the majority, none of that shit is okay. You can still be as you are, but it's not cool to lawfully force compliance when people find such cases pretentious.

What's the alternative to tolerance though? 

Are you saying it'd be better to correctively bully these people, a demographic already more prone to suicide than the norm? 

Tolerance my ass. This is not about tolerence in exchange for fucking up the kids and sinking the west.

I'd suggest setting boundaries back to where it was. 

I once heard Blair White say something along the lines of "If you don't look the part no one will take you seriously" which is a truth that abuses transgenders, so they mutilate themselves and end up crazy and suicide rates are high.

Transgenderism is a disorder. Some would argue a physical disorder cause they don't get what they call a bonus hole. 

 

That being said, there are states within the US where women are treated blatantly as second class citizens, and even within more relatively progressive or socially modernized states you still see them treated as if "weak" or "ineffective" when compared with a man. This is not an issue as a matter of rights on paper so much as the perception by society that works against equal opportunity, and that's going to take social change rather than changing the system itself. 

Sounds like victim mentality. 

So you would say women are just as strong as men, and you're ready for us to have a female president? 

I did mention Tulsi Gabbard would be a good President. Her debate game was on point, she's patriotic, a war vet, been a Democrat, agrees with modern conservative views, now Republican. For those it matters to she's a person of colour.

Race and gender doesn't matter to me. Qualifications matter. She'll be the head of intelligence next term.

Hillary and Kamala sucks.

 

You ever see this trans complain about the downside of being a guy ? How easy women have it. 

Dude you keep making it about Trans people during a discussion about Women, but yeah I've heard lots of trans people complain about lack of equality in general rather than hyperfocusing on just their own story. 

The Trans who achieved looking like a man has a real message of how men and women are treated. Your argument is that men are treated better, but that's not true.



I feel like you're changing the goalposts over how they're an easier target than the problems women face. 

 Refer to my previous paragraph. 

 

Women are born with inherent value, it then dwindles with time. They cling onto their beauty as they age. Women are generally treated better than men even when they're no longer in their prime. 

I'd argue that both genders are born with inherent potential that has the room to be transformed into value within the right constraints. 

No one disagrees we're all born with potential.

I said women are born with inherent value. She goes from being a child, to transforming into a women with countless suitors of all ages. It's not hard for her to make it in life while she has the support of men and women. Fat girls get more hits on dating apps than chads while 70% of guys settle for less and get rejected.

Us on the other hand ( You too Nathan ) have no inherent value. We have to build and make something of ourselves or else no love. A woman who so chooses to do nothing can simply snuggle up to some guy who'll look after her.



That being said, men by the virtue of living in a Patriarchal structure maintain value for longer due to how the wealth culture enables it. The rhetoric even tries to fetishize silver hair and sharp features on older men while calling women of the same caliber Cougars as a derogatory term. At most you see women, over being seen as "weaker" relatively speaking, pampered by The Patriarchy as a reward for their Learned Helplessness. 

Some women like older men. Cougars are simply older women who fuck young men. You seem to take for granted the freedoms that were intended for westerners.

There are many women out there living alone dude. Not at home with their parents. Doing well. Most people these days need to split costs on a place but still there they are striving with their own space.

 

 


An old woman will be seen, as you put it, less valuable in spite of how they are inherently just as valuable as an older man. The only real argument that can be made over age is egg viability vs sperm viability over how one can go about it for longer than the other typically, but both genders are rolling the dice as they get older over the increased risks of defective offspring. 

If both were poor, the woman will make much more gains as a beggar. Even if she were a complete hag. 

 



In short, the only reason the above view is the case is because of inherent outcomes of The Patriarchy. By contrast I was raised in an arguably Matriarchal home (rather than feminist which is about equality) within a Patriarchal society and naturally my views reflect that instead. 

Feminism isn't fighting for equality.

 

What does "treated as weak" even mean ? Are they generally being smacked around by men at the daycare or hospital ? In the office perhaps?

By being told enough times that they are otherwise 'less than a man', it conditioned learned helplessness. It's not just those who assault women that perpetuate this situation, it's also those who'd insist on being some sort of Man-Hero. 

I find it interesting how The Right can claim that, racially, telling people that they need help and can't achieve as much without government aid or DEI hires is weakening them, yet they can't seem to see it the same way about Women when they hold the door open for them and insist they need a Man to protect them from other bad Men. 

Women do need men to protect them from bad men. Do you not understand how we're built different ? This isn't the MCU where some fancy looking chick will toss us around with her mind.

Your ideology I think would put women in danger. Men are better at violence and in life violence happens everyday.

In my opinion most people are ineffective at most things, it's why we tend to specialize in a trade and go for it. Feminists usually encourage women to compete with men in fields they themselves are not a part of. Fields that are usually male dominated. 

Feminism doesn't encourage women to compete with men so much as encourages them to do so if they wouldn't have done it because of their gender. 

Its not men who stops her from choosing what to pursue.



 
 
 
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There are inherent differences, but for those who don't conform to the expected norms they shouldn't be limited to only fields that serve the majority.

They so aren't limited. As it is with men, it's all a matter if she can do the job or not. Though, I imagine a feminist would blame patriarchy if she fails. 


If a woman is born with the capacity to be a superior soldier when compared to most men, why should she be barred from military service? 

LOL. If so she'll certainly make the cut. I'm laughing cause you think the military would reject a superior soldier cause she's female. Look at Tulsi Gabbard. Female war vets who died on tour. Everything you can't believe in about women is real, and it's you who don't believe in them and spread the belief they are oppressed.

On a side note I heard there was never a female Navy Seal.

 

There wasn't too many female digital animators when I did it.

My graduating class of digital artists had more women than men, and the teachers were split down the middle with barely a female majority. 

All we get out of these statements is that we've had contrasting experiences. I don't even know what years you went to college, let alone anything about the campus itself or where it's located, so we don't really glean much from this. 

My college specialized in creativity so the rest of the school were women buy a landslide. Broadcast design etc. My course was the colleges crown jewl as it would likely yield the highest paying job. VFX is hard work, many women aren't interested in doing it.

 

I remember this one in college, we were doing walk cycles. I said I'm doing a sexy walk cycle and she instantly started competing with me. She used to laugh and joke around a lot in class, get guys to help her out. One time she brought a guy friend and introduced him to everyone ( except me lol ) I was finalizing my first project. My first time batching rendering, I had about a dozen computers sending frames to a server. She was way behind and not even close to finishing. She was in trouble, and she says to me "You better not hog up all of the computers !" She was pissed. I just told her if she starts batching rendering then I'll give her half. 

There are other stories when it comes to that one but the point I'm making is I found her to be more of a distraction or a hindrance. She was all about taking me out. I had the best final project and she'd fight tooth and nail to insist to be the last for critiques, which is suicide. Never go after the best when the instructors are judging.   

TLDR; There was a woman in the class who was friendly with her classmates, she was brave enough to speak among 'the boys', and then she got reasonably worried over her project when you hogged all of the computers in a public computer lab. Following that you found her foolish for wanting to go last for critiques. 

...and then your takeaway from it is that women are distracting? 🤨

She never completed her project. Did not batch render her animation so the multiple computers were useless to her. I wasn't the only one batching out frames, yet, she had to nag me about using 12 machines while she had nothing for them to process.

 

In the field I had this one female she was a type of manager, and we were doing something on the side. Boss wanted to branch out and make action figures and use 3D printing and wanted a colour 3D printer. I told him they are shit, but he wouldn't hear it. He was about to spend a fortune on some crazy ass machine that will end up making a model that was as durable as shortbread, which would've been an issue when we get into casting.

My campus had a 3D printer and it was pretty badass. I totally understand throwing money into a budding field that has that much potential. 

The colour 3d printer used some powder that formed the finished item. Output was delicate and had to be impregnated with some solution to make the model as tough as MDF material. This would pose an issue for what comes next which is cast molding smaller parts like hands fingers and other fine details. This printer would've been a $130,000 mistake.

 

So the female manager assigned me to write her a report on what's the best method to go about this, which machines are best, why not use this and that etc. I submitted 2 pages, and she was so impressed. She was like THATS TALLENT ! But y'know, I pretty much did her job for her. I'm the CG guy and it I wasn't get paid to do her work. She was also my superior, for some reason, but whatever.  She also got credit for saving the day. 

So this is about you putting her down over you feeling like you did all the work for her? 

Management delegates, that's literally their job. You seem fine with Trump doing this so why not her? 

To be clear, she wasn't the boss, I could've easily said no and she'd have no complaint. She doesn't instruct my department. Asking me to submit reports was out of bounds, and I wrote the report OFF HOURS at home. Her role was to increase workflow in the studio between the artists digital artists and writers and whatever else we had.

Also I'm very fond of her. Not like that, but she's a good woman. Point is she was paid more than me while the whole place recognized who and what I am to the company.

 

The boss himself was very obnoxious. Maybe even envious. I think he'd always want to undermine me as a way of making me work harder or avoid paying me more, cause I was the true #1 and everyone knew it. 

Everyone, huh? 

If everyone knew then what else was going on? 

Wrote about this before.

That field is male dominated, and while I've seen ineffectiveness in men, I've seen it in women just about every single time. 

If that's what you're geared to look for you'll cherry pick your perceptions and seemingly find it all over the place, and judging from the above you were more focused on your own craft anyway. 

By contrast I've seen women do better than men typically unless it's something that requires a literal caveman. 

Well if those women aren't successful, whose fault is it ?

 

If a western woman waits around for a man to tell her what to do, that's on her.

So we're just to ignore how society impacts the individual? 

The world doesn't revolve us. If ones goes out expecting everything to go their way they'll get destroyed. Women are competing with women aswell. For her sometimes a woman gets the job she wanted.

 

In many cases they do nothing then blame men for them not doing anything as if men are supposed to tone it down for the ladies and not apply themselves to opportunities. In 2024 everyone is having a hard time. Then..... There are those women are good at what they do and have good positions, but you don't want to talk about them do you. 

A few exceptions don't negate sociological statistics. You can't be like "The Kardashians are doing super well" as a way to explain that women overall are thriving. 

 Billionaires ? Dude we're talking about everyday people here.

Black women are killing it these days. Boss babes with the house and car. Doing well demographically. 

Women with victim mentality are prone to self defeat. It'll then obstruct their success rate.

Men have it worse cause if you're a weak man people will laugh and have no respect for you. Women won't like you either.

I personally don't respect mentally weak people. There's nothing to respect there, they are so held back and it's really by choice. 

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Golden_Eagle said:
Turncoat said:

When a couple has a kid on the way, and the man wants the kid but the woman wants to abort it, then who gets their way ? Keep in mind abortion isn't banned.


Right: "Abortion isn't banned"

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."

Right: "So drive to a state where it's legal."

Left: "They tried already to lock it to your State ID so you couldn't do that."

Right: "Well killing the unborn is wrong anyway."

Left: "It's just a cluster of cells, women shouldn't have to throw away their lives over that."

Right: "Then she shouldn't be sleeping around and practicing unsafe sex."

Left: "So this is about punishing the woman?"

Right: "It's not about punishment, it's about holding them accountable."

Left: "Accountable for what, having sex?"

Right: "You try having sex with someone of the opposite sex, see what happens."

Left: "But it doesn't have to happen if we have Abortions and Contraception."

Right: "Those aren't banned though, if they're smart they'll plan ahead and if they're stupid it's not banned."

Left: "It's about to become a state issue."


/rinse repeat the cycle

If the man wants a baby and the woman doesn't, why doesn't the man get a baby out of someone else?

It's legal for US citizens to travel to other states to have abortions, period. I'm assuming you're now lying to support your weak claims.

When Roe v Wade was overturned they tried to push it further towards preventing Out-Of-State Abortions and thankfully failed. There are already laws to stop even leaving the state with intent to do something, even the country in some cases, and while they legally may struggle to enforce their own laws when they're on lands with different laws they could attempt to argue over what they'd done prior to leaving it.

This was why they wanted to push having it be locked down by your ID card, and if anti-abortion sentiments normalize there isn't much to prevent them trying it again. They also tried to have anyone involved with it's occurrence be held complicit via "aiding and abetting", including whoever drives them there if they understood the abortion mother-to-be's intent as the driver.

Even further, by forcing the legal issue to one of travel you're gatekeeping those who are too poor to leave, meaning more poor children with just as few rich ones. Planned Parenthood also isn't a one-and-done kind of thing; you need to make a series of appointments and you need to navigate through the places pretending to be abortion clinics with the goal of wasting your time, in hopes of getting the woman past the point of no return if not dissuade them through Pro-Life trickery.


In August, Alabama’s attorney general declared that his office had the power to prosecute people who helped residents leave the state for an abortion using criminal conspiracy laws. So far, he has not actually leveraged that authority, leaving the legal basis untested. And a handful of counties in Texas have passed ordinances that would outlaw using their roads to drive someone out of state for an abortion. These measures would largely be enforced by civil lawsuit rather than criminal punishment. - 19th News, 2023


If they really want to stop abortions, which they do, then the next logical step is to hit their means of travel. They already have fake clinics to waste people's time, now it's more a matter of finding technicalities until they can try to change it by law overall.

Fiction aside I believe the question was whose choice is it.

(Spoiler: It's hers)

It's his choice to implant a seed into her womb, it's his choice if he does or doesn't undergo a vasectomy, it's his choice if he wears a condom, it's his choice to pull out, it's his choice if he wishes to abstain from having sex with this person, a lot of it is his choice. The man has just as many ways to avoid a pregnancy.

It only becomes her choice, and her choice alone, after implantation has occurred. His seed is effectively him giving her a gift; once that gift has been given to her it's not really his anymore unless she decides to share it. If the man is really bitter about it then all he has to do is find another woman to implant with his seed who actually wants to have a child.

By your logic, if the man doesn't want a child, then why is he having sex with people?

I've had many jobs. Worked in construction 3 times, and I only saw a woman with a hardhat once ever.

Meanwhile we see women beginning to dominate college educated fields while focusing more on social programs and healthcare. There are natural predisposed advantages to each sex purely over the proclivity for T vs E balances as well as other genetic factors in spite of enough exceptions to the norm existing. 

Even within that though you'll see them making less than a man of the same status occupationally, more often than not, over sexist elements that still persist today. Sure it's less than earlier points in history, but we shouldn't just stop when it's not finished equalizing yet. 

Gender pay gap is a bogus claim. The modern workspace has become very tense when it comes to etiquette on how men must behave around female coworkers. To think women are getting paid less at all is laughable. 

Well okay, if you're willing to ignore published stats in favor of your own beliefs, you do you. 👍

Statistics indicate men do more overtime. The pay is the same. Job titles start with base pay and no employer simply pays more based on gender.

I would like to see this study/stats, moreso because I feel like you may have misunderstood what the article meant.

I could be wrong, which is why I'd like to see your source.

Rachel Maddow just took a 5 million dollar pay cut and now earns 25 million a year, for going on air once a week, and we seen her crying about gender pay gap and got schooled.

So we're supposed to judge all women based on Rachel Maddow?

Do you notice how you try to pull at isolated examples to apply things to wide swaths of people?

As a reminder, most pro lifers are women.

Even if we ignore how more pro lifers are men than women, does this mean you think it's okay for women to tell other women what they can and can't do with their bodies? 

Kind of a nothing argument imo, neither gender should be limiting another woman's bodily autonomy. 

As your body is yours, your aborted siblings before you had their rights violated. The argument is the fetus is a separate entity and not her body. 

Of course I'm arguing with someone who thinks it's okay to kill newborns after birth.

This has nothing to do with the above point. We were talking about if it is or isn't okay for women to tell other women what they can and can't do with their bodies.

Just like the above Right vs Left straw-argument I color coded the names of, we can see you falling into this goalpost shift once the argument over legality is lost. When there's nothing left to say the topic transfers to murder, rather than the original point over women's right to quote unquote murder.

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Many women, including school girls aren't comfortable taking showers with men in the changeroom, or in the washroom. Some people who are against that are women also. Women are not to be called cis women, while men take the name woman for themselves and crush them at sports.

Bit of a tangent isn't it? 

How many men are doing this? For real, how many? 

On stage you'd be laughed at with that reply.

No one wants any of that foolishness normalized. If it were, the US would become weak and depopulated and conquered. It would be the end of the free world on planet Earth which lets you be a faggot in the first place, but that stuff is destructive and oppressive.

So... you don't have a number then? 

Bet it's because it's so few it's the exception to the norm, and because focusing on how few there actually are works against the parroted right wing talking points.

You know how Estrogen works, right? 

Teaching kids to be secretive with their parents and preaching multiple genders by people who appear bright and sparkly to preschoolers is a way of indoctrinating children to be queer.

So what's a kid supposed to do if, lets say, they find Jesus but are in a Muslim household? 

Should the kid give in and just be Muslim? Should the parents demonize Christianity over how it's warping their child away from Allah's light? Or would you advise this child keep his love of Jesus a secret to be spared the belt and what many Christians would argue are Satanic Punishments or Conditionings? 

If you want to be mad at anyone over that, go after the doctors in Big Pharma. Even within your own POV, people in drag reading stories to kids shouldn't be seen as any worse than having a party clown do it. 

Drag is an erotic art form. Garter belts, nylons, high heels. We do not send women to kindergarten classes dressed like pole dancers. Men who do that are in many cases pedophiles. 

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Bright, colorful, one of them even looks like something out of Dr. Seuss. 

None of this even seems sexual in nature to me. 

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