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Turncoat said: 

Dude look at who he's bringing into The White House, Trump pre-presidency has always been a hardcore delegator so that he never has to take the blame directly. 

Any time he's asked to explain something, instead it's either saying how good/bad it is, how smart/dumb those involved are, and a general opinion over things he ought to be more educated on. If not this he will insist the other person has no idea what it is to turn the tables and then talk over them the entire time to obfuscate the issue and feel like anything he doesn't understand is beyond others primarily. It's why his Debates are typically a shit-show. 

Obviously Trump didn't read the entire thing. FFS they recently snagged the training videos now, you don't even have to put yourself through reading the entire thing. He's just trying to distance himself from associating with it over how it visibly stinks and he himself doesn't like it, but then once he's in office he's totally groovy to act on it via State Policy based Delegation where it will never have to apply to him personally. 

OK, who are we talking about that he's bringing into the White House? Because the whole idea with Project 2025 is that it would be composed of people who were down with the administration since 2016. But there's a saying that if you worked on Trump's campaign, you're less likely to get hired in the administration. Because when Trump got in office, he ended up filling it up with guys from Jeb Bush's campaign, and from McCain, and basically from a bunch of people who hated him and/or were Neocons. And this is largely why in the first term there was constant sabotage and inefficiency up until toward the end.

So who are these White House picks that have to do with Project 2025? Because I would actually love  to see him make that move. But so far he's been constantly disavowing it, because it's been one of the left's primary angles of attacks. Just because they keep bringing it up, doesn't mean he's ever said he plans to go with that playbook, though (he's said Agenda 47 since the beginning). You know there's all this hysteria, about Project 2025 and abortion. Yet Trump and Vance came out yesterday in support of reproductive rights. So make it make sense...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/24/trump-abortion-reactions-00176276

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/jd-vance-says-trump-veto-national-abortion-ban-rcna168084

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Dude look at who he's bringing into The White House, Trump pre-presidency has always been a hardcore delegator so that he never has to take the blame directly. 

Any time he's asked to explain something, instead it's either saying how good/bad it is, how smart/dumb those involved are, and a general opinion over things he ought to be more educated on. If not this he will insist the other person has no idea what it is to turn the tables and then talk over them the entire time to obfuscate the issue and feel like anything he doesn't understand is beyond others primarily. It's why his Debates are typically a shit-show. 

Obviously Trump didn't read the entire thing. FFS they recently snagged the training videos now, you don't even have to put yourself through reading the entire thing. He's just trying to distance himself from associating with it over how it visibly stinks and he himself doesn't like it, but then once he's in office he's totally groovy to act on it via State Policy based Delegation where it will never have to apply to him personally. 

OK, who are we talking about that he's bringing into the White House?

At least 140 people related to the project: 

CNN: Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved

Because the whole idea with Project 2025 is that it would be composed of people who were down with the administration since 2016. But there's a saying that if you worked on Trump's campaign, you're less likely to get hired in the administration. Because when Trump got in office, he ended up filling it up with guys from Jeb Bush's campaign, and from McCain, and basically from a bunch of people who hated him and/or were Neocons. And this is largely why in the first term there was constant sabotage and inefficiency up until toward the end.

This is largely why less got done during his first four years. 

I suspect things to be handled much more "smoothly" this time, to the point of Constitutional Decay. The mistakes made the first time are less liable to be repeated via experience. 

So who are these White House picks that have to do with Project 2025? Because I would actually love  to see him make that move.

...for real? Why? 

But so far he's been constantly disavowing it, because it's been one of the left's primary angles of attacks. Just because they keep bringing it up, doesn't mean he's ever said he plans to go with that playbook, though (he's said Agenda 47 since the beginning). You know there's all this hysteria, about Project 2025 and abortion. Yet Trump and Vance came out yesterday in support of reproductive rights. So make it make sense...

I'm sorry, but how is the Abortion case hysteria? 

I understand claiming P25 is over how Trump keeps trying to publicly distance himself from it, but the only way Abortion can be called hysteria in this case is over not believing in Pro-Choice Freedoms. 

Seriously, The Right needs to drop that from their sights if they want any chance of winning this election. It's a Smoking Gun that people can't just ignore without some sort of privilege or indoctrination. 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Dude look at who he's bringing into The White House, Trump pre-presidency has always been a hardcore delegator so that he never has to take the blame directly. 

Any time he's asked to explain something, instead it's either saying how good/bad it is, how smart/dumb those involved are, and a general opinion over things he ought to be more educated on. If not this he will insist the other person has no idea what it is to turn the tables and then talk over them the entire time to obfuscate the issue and feel like anything he doesn't understand is beyond others primarily. It's why his Debates are typically a shit-show. 

Obviously Trump didn't read the entire thing. FFS they recently snagged the training videos now, you don't even have to put yourself through reading the entire thing. He's just trying to distance himself from associating with it over how it visibly stinks and he himself doesn't like it, but then once he's in office he's totally groovy to act on it via State Policy based Delegation where it will never have to apply to him personally. 

OK, who are we talking about that he's bringing into the White House?

At least 140 people related to the project: 

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CNN: Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved

The article says "at least 140 people who worked in the Trump administration had a hand in Project 2025".

Because the whole idea with Project 2025 is that it would be composed of people who were down with the administration since 2016. But there's a saying that if you worked on Trump's campaign, you're less likely to get hired in the administration. Because when Trump got in office, he ended up filling it up with guys from Jeb Bush's campaign, and from McCain, and basically from a bunch of people who hated him and/or were Neocons. And this is largely why in the first term there was constant sabotage and inefficiency up until toward the end.

This is largely why less got done during his first four years. 

I suspect things to be handled much more "smoothly" this time, to the point of Constitutional Decay. The mistakes made the first time are less liable to be repeated via experience. 

So who are these White House picks that have to do with Project 2025? Because I would actually love  to see him make that move.

...for real? Why? 

Because the people involved are the same people who were there in 2016. They aren't "never Trumpers" or "RINOs" like campaign managers Susie Wiles or Chris LaCivita, that got brought in out of political expediency. And Project 2025 has the personnel database; that's what's really key. As far as figuring out everything that was in the playbook itself, that's something that would take time for me to do, because there are shills on both sides, and one has to be critical. But that's just seemed like a waste of time, as Trump disavowed it since the beginning.

You are worried about constitutional decay from this next Trump administration...well things have been pretty one-sided against him in this regard. It's been all these impeachment attempts, weaponizing of the legal system, etc. Even recently: That E. Jean Carroll case was totally insane. 

Well, the people who support Trump would actually like him to be able to deliver on his promises. For example, it would be nice to get a wall built on the border. That should not have been such an insane task. And maybe we can get our troops out of Syria without people simply ignoring the orders. Although the Adelson money seems to have Trump calling Jews—like Schumer—"Palestinians". So I'm not holding my breath for de-escalation in the Middle East right now.

But so far he's been constantly disavowing it, because it's been one of the left's primary angles of attacks. Just because they keep bringing it up, doesn't mean he's ever said he plans to go with that playbook, though (he's said Agenda 47 since the beginning). You know there's all this hysteria, about Project 2025 and abortion. Yet Trump and Vance came out yesterday in support of reproductive rights. So make it make sense...

I'm sorry, but how is the Abortion case hysteria? 

I understand claiming P25 is over how Trump keeps trying to publicly distance himself from it, but the only way Abortion can be called hysteria in this case is over not believing in Pro-Choice Freedoms. 

Seriously, The Right needs to drop that from their sights if they want any chance of winning this election. It's a Smoking Gun that people can't just ignore without some sort of privilege or indoctrination. 

In relation to Project 2025, it's hysteria because Trump has been talking about Agenda 47 since the beginning. And keeps repeatedly disavowing 2025. So its fear mongering over a non-existent threat.

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

OK, who are we talking about that he's bringing into the White House?

At least 140 people related to the project: 

---

CNN: Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved

The article says "at least 140 people who worked in the Trump administration had a hand in Project 2025".

Because the whole idea with Project 2025 is that it would be composed of people who were down with the administration since 2016. But there's a saying that if you worked on Trump's campaign, you're less likely to get hired in the administration. Because when Trump got in office, he ended up filling it up with guys from Jeb Bush's campaign, and from McCain, and basically from a bunch of people who hated him and/or were Neocons. And this is largely why in the first term there was constant sabotage and inefficiency up until toward the end.

This is largely why less got done during his first four years. 

I suspect things to be handled much more "smoothly" this time, to the point of Constitutional Decay. The mistakes made the first time are less liable to be repeated via experience. 

So who are these White House picks that have to do with Project 2025? Because I would actually love  to see him make that move.

...for real? Why? 

Because the people involved are the same people who were there in 2016. They aren't "never Trumpers" or "RINOs" like campaign managers Susie Wiles or Chris LaCivita, that got brought in out of political expediency. And Project 2025 has the personnel database; that's what's really key. As far as figuring out everything that was in the playbook itself, that's something that would take time for me to do, because there are shills on both sides, and one has to be critical. But that's just seemed like a waste of time, as Trump disavowed it since the beginning.

You are worried about constitutional decay from this next Trump administration...well things have been pretty one-sided against him in this regard. It's been all these impeachment attempts, weaponizing of the legal system, etc. Even recently: That E. Jean Carroll case was totally insane. 

Well, the people who support Trump would actually like him to be able to deliver on his promises. For example, it would be nice to get a wall built on the border. That should not have been such an insane task. And maybe we can get our troops out of Syria without people simply ignoring the orders. Although the Adelson money seems to have Trump calling Jews—like Schumer—"Palestinians". So I'm not holding my breath for de-escalation in the Middle East right now.

But so far he's been constantly disavowing it, because it's been one of the left's primary angles of attacks. Just because they keep bringing it up, doesn't mean he's ever said he plans to go with that playbook, though (he's said Agenda 47 since the beginning). You know there's all this hysteria, about Project 2025 and abortion. Yet Trump and Vance came out yesterday in support of reproductive rights. So make it make sense...

I'm sorry, but how is the Abortion case hysteria? 

I understand claiming P25 is over how Trump keeps trying to publicly distance himself from it, but the only way Abortion can be called hysteria in this case is over not believing in Pro-Choice Freedoms. 

Seriously, The Right needs to drop that from their sights if they want any chance of winning this election. It's a Smoking Gun that people can't just ignore without some sort of privilege or indoctrination. 

In relation to Project 2025, it's hysteria because Trump has been talking about Agenda 47 since the beginning. And keeps repeatedly disavowing 2025. So its fear mongering over a non-existent threat.

it's clear that project 2025 and agenda 47 are generating a lot of conversation. especially in light of their potential implications for the stability of the constitution and significant issues like abortion rights. despite the fact that trump has consistently preferred delegation over direct accountability. it could be crucial to take into account the people he is genuinely surrounding himself with at this moment.

given the experiences from his first term. a new administration is likely to be more successful in pushing its agenda. possibly even at the expense of the constitutional checks and balances. the claim that project 2025 is a non-existent threat misses the reality that political scheming and personnel decisions can have a significant influence on how policy is implemented. even in cases where the details of the plans aren't followed precisely.

The MSM needs a boogieman. Russia collusion won't work again. So they collectively speak lies about Project 2025 policies, which has nothing to do with Trump. 

This is Project 2025 themselves debunking claims that the DNC and MSM have to say about them.

https://x.com/Prjct2025/status/1810735701308195326

The establishment knows their target audience won't look into it for themselves, so today the boogieman is Project 2025.

Agenda 47 said:

1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion

2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in american history

3. End inflation, and make america affordable again

4. Make america the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!

5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!

7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms

8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in america

9. End the weaponization of government against the american people

10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders

11. Rebuild our cities, including washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.

12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world

13. Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency

14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age

15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations

16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children

17. Keep men out of women's sports

18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again

19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship

20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

Project 2025 are ideas from a group of conservatives, and not a byproduct of the Republican party. 

So what is it that you disagree with when it comes to project 2025 cuckoo? Why deny it as the obvious direction conservatives including trump are going for? Why pretend like the republican party is not mostly conservatives?

Dragoonback said: 

So what is it that you disagree with when it comes to project 2025 cuckoo? Why deny it as the obvious direction conservatives including trump are going for? Why pretend like the republican party is not mostly conservatives?

 I say. The same people who told you Russia Russia Russia, did quite a number on you. 

Once someone is programmed, in some cases it seems only the programmer can undo what's been done.

You can show what the actual source says and still, the blatant lie still holds weight, until further notice. Amazing stuff. 

idgaf about russia. only good thing about russia are the commie blocks.

Cuckoo said: 

 

Agenda 47 said:

1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion

2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in american history

3. End inflation, and make america affordable again

4. Make america the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!

5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!

7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms

8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in america

9. End the weaponization of government against the american people

10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders

11. Rebuild our cities, including washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.

12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world

13. Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency

14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age

15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations

16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children

17. Keep men out of women's sports

18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again

19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship

20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

 

Project 2025 are ideas from a group of conservatives, and not a byproduct of the Republican party. 

What's your take on why he overturned Roe v Wade? Even if he tries to backpeddle on women's rights, his bragging about that remains a Smoking Gun. 

The major difference between P25 and A47 is that the former outlines how he can do it while the latter are broad proposals within Trump's range of understanding. One could promise to implement A47 and still end up following the P25 playbook, the two don't have to be mutually exclusive if this is more of a matter of branding towards a mass audience. 

Also lol he plans to build a giant iron dome around the entire country? How can he do that and cut taxes, that was the premise of trying to get Mexico to pay for the wall. It's also difficult for me to believe he'd be ending the weaponization of the government when we look at how BLM was handled. The idea of Defending the Constitution also reads to me as a bunch of Hot Air when he's liable to try for a third presidential term. 

Cutting the Electric Vehicle mandate is also clearly an attempt to put money into the pockets of Big Oil, if he really wanted us to escape dependency on foreign powers he'd be all for the electric car. Cutting the mandate also goes against 'America Must Have the #1 Lowest Cost Energy and Electricity on Earth' as a nearly direct contradiction, especially when you consider how much time he's spent demonizing Wind Power. 

The whole thing reads as a 'setting the pins before striking them' plot, such as proposing that the immigration situation is worse than it is before proposing to 'fix' something that he ultimately won't want to solve fully to secure future right wing votes. A third to half of these things don't even really matter when it comes to fixing real issues (if not outright taking steps backwards), and Trump seems to somehow believe these things won't have costs that will transfer over to The American People's pocketbooks and will somehow reduce Inflation (lol @ tariffs).