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Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

This is the most pernicious aspect of it, in my opinion. Particularly with white women. Their empathy is being weaponized by those with racial agendas, and those who want immigration for various reasons. Well I believe I've been watching X dismantle this—in a way that is shocking. As in I never thought it could be possible for the censored thoughts everyone has to bleed into public discourse. I'm sure since you follow the Tates, you've seen it all.

Bruh your party wants Abortion and Contraception to become a State-Wide issue, rather than an accepted fact, and when it was being instated before they wanted their rights to be judged by the State on their ID Card so that they can't just take a bus to get work done. 

You could throw race completely out of this campaign and still see women flocking towards Reproductive Rights, because that makes sense. 

I've already said before that conservatives have to consider women in this equation

They really do, it's going to be way too uphill otherwise. 

If they really want to have women be forced to squish out babies, this is no longer the time to strike. With Biden as competition it was a real risk, now though? 

So you are  aware of how these femmes are focused on that to a degree that they will blow an election over that.

Of course, and I'm thankful it's related to the party I'd already be voting for. 

Tryptamine said: 

women care about this stupid shit. They should not be able to vote.

You're sexist as shit.

Like I know that you aren't getting laid right now so it doesn't apply to you, but women's reproductive rights are extremely important and shouldn't be fucked with, especially when it comes to the modern two income household. People can barely even buy houses right now, people are complaining about grocery prices right now, people are complaining about how schools are structured. We're not in a situation where child-rearing is as realistic as it once was, and even beyond that it should be a choice rather than a punishment. 

That the right wing would throw away their entire campaign on it is more baffling to me. As long as The Right plans to change two-term presidential limits and remove reproductive rights they're going to end up alienating a lot of members of their own party before you even look into it further. Even if The Right were supporting things I wanted otherwise, many of the areas they are insisting on still are impossible to ignore if you have even a shred of empathy for people outside of your own typing. 

The fact that you'd primarily look at what the right is doing and blame women for it, rather than stupid men, shows where your head's at. This is a male problem where females stand to be the victims. 

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

the problem here is that liberals are motivated by and turn out for class warfare and identity politics. the economic side of things are just consequences of those two main drivers

The implications over Trump shitting on the Constitution have even right wingers turning on him.

Shitting on it how? January 6? 😂

Project 2025. 

There will always be class warfare discussed in the issues over how The Right's model is a two class system while The Left's model has three. The existence of a Middle Class makes for less of a barrier between classes, which means higher odds of "New Money" rather than "Old Money" as the culture moving forward. 

Otherwise why shouldn't race be a focus when the other party has such a penchant for racism themselves? Should the Left just ignore that, and for that matter should the Right? Race (and Gender) should continue to be brought up as long as people continue to see it as a problem, otherwise it won't be solved. 

Beyond that we've seen recovery through Biden's time in office if you actually look at the numbers rather than the hype and grocery corruption. Recovery costs cash and takes years to see bear fruit, while lower taxes often costs more overall in the long run via cutting corners (similar to Union logic). 

You are operating off of premises here that I'm not buying into.

So you're fine with the rest of this premise, but not the middle class and racial portions? 

That still leaves "New Money vs Old Money", Gender, Biden's numbers, Grocery Corruption, and the question over how long it takes for change to bear fruit. 

You think the right doesn't talk about the middle class?

Their policies work in such a way as to shrink the middle class, while the Left pushes middle class values over how it can inspire lower class people to see progress as attainable. 

It's conservative vs progressive, it plays out fairly expectedly. One group has better stuff, another feels entitled to their fair share, of course they're going to fight about it. 

Or that the right is focused on race; that it's not the left constantly pushing this dialogue? 

Both sides focus on race, but both push a victim narrative to get their points across. The question is moreover who deserves to be seen that way. 

The Left has to be the one communicating over race over how The Right would prefer to ignore it. A lot of The Right's demographics have... shady views on racial matters, which is why they're stuck resorting to Dogwhistling. 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

women care about this stupid shit. They should not be able to vote.

You're sexist as shit.

Like I know that you aren't getting laid right now so it doesn't apply to you,

but women's reproductive rights are extremely important and shouldn't be fucked with, especially when it comes to the modern two income household. People can barely even buy houses right now, people are complaining about grocery prices right now, people are complaining about how schools are structured. We're not in a situation where child-rearing is as realistic as it once was, and even beyond that it should be a choice rather than a punishment. 

That the right wing would throw away their entire campaign on it is more baffling to me. As long as The Right plans to change two-term presidential limits and remove reproductive rights they're going to end up alienating a lot of members of their own party before you even look into it further. Even if The Right were supporting things I wanted otherwise, many of the areas they are insisting on still are impossible to ignore if you have even a shred of empathy for people outside of your own typing. 

The fact that you'd primarily look at what the right is doing and blame women for it, rather than stupid men, shows where your head's at. This is a male problem where females stand to be the victims. 
 

Well you see, I actually lean pro-abortion. But I have a larger perspective on the issues overall. Which makes it obvious to me that this being the lightning rod issue that it is, really does so much damage. People already know your gripes about it; maybe they have good reasons for being against it. I am curious what kind of apocalyptic future you are seeing, if abortion was to be mandated by the States.

And at any rate, most people should not be able to vote. We are giving money to places that people cannot find on a map. They couldn't tell you what a Senator is from a Congressman. And yet here we are, running another election where they roll out the diversity picks, and talk about the same old shit like "tax cuts" for the proles.

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

The implications over Trump shitting on the Constitution have even right wingers turning on him.

Shitting on it how? January 6? 😂

Project 2025. 

You mean the thing that the left keeps bringing up, because Trump shows weakness by constantly disavowing it?

There will always be class warfare discussed in the issues over how The Right's model is a two class system while The Left's model has three. The existence of a Middle Class makes for less of a barrier between classes, which means higher odds of "New Money" rather than "Old Money" as the culture moving forward. 

Otherwise why shouldn't race be a focus when the other party has such a penchant for racism themselves? Should the Left just ignore that, and for that matter should the Right? Race (and Gender) should continue to be brought up as long as people continue to see it as a problem, otherwise it won't be solved. 

Beyond that we've seen recovery through Biden's time in office if you actually look at the numbers rather than the hype and grocery corruption. Recovery costs cash and takes years to see bear fruit, while lower taxes often costs more overall in the long run via cutting corners (similar to Union logic). 

You are operating off of premises here that I'm not buying into.

So you're fine with the rest of this premise, but not the middle class and racial portions? 

That still leaves "New Money vs Old Money", Gender, Biden's numbers, Grocery Corruption, and the question over how long it takes for change to bear fruit. 

You think the right doesn't talk about the middle class?

Their policies work in such a way as to shrink the middle class, while the Left pushes middle class values over how it can inspire lower class people to see progress as attainable. 

It's conservative vs progressive, it plays out fairly expectedly. One group has better stuff, another feels entitled to their fair share, of course they're going to fight about it. 

Or that the right is focused on race; that it's not the left constantly pushing this dialogue? 

Both sides focus on race, but both push a victim narrative to get their points across. The question is moreover who deserves to be seen that way. 

The Left has to be the one communicating over race over how The Right would prefer to ignore it. A lot of The Right's demographics have... shady views on racial matters, which is why they're stuck resorting to Dogwhistling. 

Shady views like ending DEI? I think the vocabulary Tucker and some others have been pushing is "colorblind meritocracy". As far as the middle class goes, I don't have extensive knowledge of economics. So while I hear both sides talk about it, it's not something I'm keen to give a strong opinion on.

Trump is very closely related to p25. He even flip flops on what he says about them. Are you really gonna sit here and pretend like you cannot tell when someone is lying like a schoolgrader would? There is no such thing as meritocracy. If employers don't want white people for what they did to the world and other cultures via colonization and modern colonization then I fully understand.

Dragoonback said: 

Trump is very closely related to p25. He even flip flops on what he says about them. Are you really gonna sit here and pretend like you cannot tell when someone is lying like a schoolgrader would?

He has formally disavowed a dozen times or more. Where is the flip flop?

There is no such thing as meritocracy. If employers don't want white people for what they did to the world and other cultures via colonization and modern colonization then I fully understand.

Well luckily this type of opinion is rapidly becoming out of vogue.

Maybe you guys don't have context, but there are several playbooks that the left and right uses. One of those on the right, by the think tank Heritage Foundation, is Project 2025. It's one of many playbooks. The one which Trump has been saying he is going with is Agenda 47. You guys don't actually follow what's going on, you just drink the Kool Aid.

Tryptamine said: 

Maybe you guys don't have context, but there are several playbooks that the left and right uses. One of those on the right, by the think tank Heritage Foundation, is Project 2025. It's one of many playbooks. The one which Trump has been saying he is going with is Agenda 47. You guys don't actually follow what's going on, you just drink the Kool Aid.

 They do drink the Kool-Aid. 

Few weeks ago I showed Nate how he's repeating 2nd hand information from people brainwashing him and how Project 2025 "themselves" debunked a lot of the claims against them

^ The tweet debunks 20 points.

I also showed him this....

But you can't help those people.

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There is an old video I've shared in this forum a few times over the years. What it talks about it happening now, it's a good watch. 

It mentions the 3 groups of people while the ruling class is being dismantled.

The whole video itself is a good listen. I don't know if the forces are what's called Illuminati, but there's certainly a ruling class that's been manipulating the world as a way to stay on top.

You can find TC's group, Group two, 4:02 minutes into the video.

Tryptamine said: 

Dragoonback said: 

Trump is very closely related to p25. He even flip flops on what he says about them. Are you really gonna sit here and pretend like you cannot tell when someone is lying like a schoolgrader would?

He has formally disavowed a dozen times or more. Where is the flip flop?

Dude look at who he's bringing into The White House, Trump pre-presidency has always been a hardcore delegator so that he never has to take the blame directly. 

Any time he's asked to explain something, instead it's either saying how good/bad it is, how smart/dumb those involved are, and a general opinion over things he ought to be more educated on. If not this he will insist the other person has no idea what it is to turn the tables and then talk over them the entire time to obfuscate the issue and feel like anything he doesn't understand is beyond others primarily. It's why his Debates are typically a shit-show. 

Obviously Trump didn't read the entire thing. FFS they recently snagged the training videos now, you don't even have to put yourself through reading the entire thing. He's just trying to distance himself from associating with it over how it visibly stinks and he himself doesn't like it, but then once he's in office he's totally groovy to act on it via State Policy based Delegation where it will never have to apply to him personally.