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Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

That is a matter of associations, likely hardened ones, which are a difficult thing to work through. 

I personally opt for re-defining those associations towards more recent context, but that can take a lot of reinforcement which means dealing with the shit you don't like, multiple times, within controlled conditions. 

elaborate on the bolded? this confused me a little

I learned about this in college and tried applying it towards my own life to fix my old OCD problems. 

Exposure Therapy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_therapy

In simpler terms, I forced myself to deal with the sources of my problem enough times to try to desensitize the cues. Over a period of years they became easier to handle and, with it, mental coping skills followed that keep that shit locked in a fucking cage through lifestyle choices. 

As an example though, lets take someone deathly afraid of Spiders. Someone could present that person with a caged spider once per day for weeks until the subject shows less fear over it, in which they can then gradually advance the exposure until the subject is no longer triggered into a fear response by Spiders. 


Another thing I've seen is that the things we look at work like "Memory Totems". If we surround ourselves with images and objects that we associate with bad thoughts, those bad thoughts will occur more often. These can be gradually reassociated through, but the effort's a toil to do. 

right,  whereas with myself I would force myself to accept and welcome and unconditionally love the spider right off the bat as uncomfortable as it might feel-  but if I knew that it was poisonous I would try to capture it and release it outside while making sure that it did not touch me  and if it was a snake,  I would unconditionally love the snake too but I would get myself out of the environment of the snake and try to find someone else to handle the snake because that is just too much for me right now  I mean at least I think that is how I would handle it but maybe the situation would force me to actually confront the snake and I might actually get poisoned  soo yeah I am struggling with this concept of accepting all-that-is because of the "but what if" scenarios....  hopefully I get some insight from God about this because this is confusing me soo much because I desire to be in balance and harmony with all-that-is and nature

how do you personally justify shielding Turncoat when you believe in having an equal balance of dark and light within all of us?  is it more that you do not believe that we should necessarily allow ourselves to connect to other people's darkness and the darkness of the world?  see this is confusing me because I feel like everything within me should be reflected outside of me so if I am allowing my shadow to become conscious shouldn't I also allow everything else around me to exist as it is without trying to put a shield against it? I am very confused and I need answers because I feel like my mind is all tangled up and in a mess

how do I stop percieving the negative low vibrations everywhere I go and everything I do in a way that encourages my health and wellness and wholeness,  and if I should still be percieving those energies then how do I percieve them in a way that is not harmful and damaging to myself?  is there something to this like is there some sort of "magic" way of percieving negative low vibrational energies that prevents them from harming and damaging myself?

this seems like a very "out there" question to me but what if there is?  I know that your life experience can change drastically based on your beliefs and perspectives-  so is there a combination of the two that would encourage health and discourage damage when being confronted with negative energies and does it have to do with transmuting energies or is it something else?

okay so the first perspective shift is instead of borderline pd mood swings and the bipolar two ups and downs I need to focus on bringing the negative energy to equilibrium through accepting and nonjudgmental mindfulness instead of swinging to the complete opposite other side of ultra positivity  (wow I have been doing this incorrectly for soo long)

but there is more to it than just this because the negative energies feel too negative even with nonjudgmentally accepting those energies  soo I have to figure out how else to percieve these negative energies

I am going to have to ask my shamanic practitioner healer about this  this is depression this sounds like a form of spiritual depression she will probably know how to fix this  my internal fear based beliefs vibe is attracting negative energies from the spirit world

https://scottjeffrey.com/repressed-emotions/  this is a guide on how to transmute negative emotions into positive energy  (you might actually have to feel it to heal it but I am experimenting with using prayer as a quicker version of this to release the emotional energies faster  I am not sure if the prayer one is effective enough yet to recommend but I think that it is but that I was overusing it for every single thing too much at once like I was trying to have God have me completely transformed in one day lol and then I had a backlash of lack of positive energy)

How to Transmute Negative Emotions into Positive Energy

Here’s a five-step process you can use to transmute negative emotions.

Step 1: Pause and Find Your Center
The faster we move through life, the less we feel. As we slow down, pausing occasionally, we can “stop and see” what’s going on.

The more you can root yourself in your Center, the more easily and readily repressed emotions will bubble to the surface. And with these emotions, you’ll often see images and memories (perhaps from childhood) where you originally experienced these emotions.

Now, let’s say you’ve done this and you’re present a negative emotion.

Step 2: Tune in to Your Body
Tune in to the feeling state in your body. What is the feeling state? (Anger, sadness, frustration, fear, grief, depression, or shame.)

Where exactly are you experiencing it in your body? (Head, throat, chest, gut, or feet.)

And how does it feel? (Hard, soft, cool, hot, sticky, pulsating, vibrating, or heavy.)

Focus your attention on the physical sensations and the overall feeling.

Allow the feeling and sensations to be as they are, welcoming the feelings and embracing them with full awareness.

Step 3: Relax All Judgment
We tend to judge our feelings. I shouldn’t feel like this, we might say to ourselves.

Relax the tendency to judge or react to the emotion. Just be with whatever you’re feeling.

Take full responsibility for the emotions. Notice that the emotional energy is arising within you, instead of happening to you.

As long as you hold someone or something else as the source of your emotions (“his actions are making me feel this way”), you’ll have limited resources to process emotions.

For the moment, relax your relationship with the person or object if the feeling is about someone or something.

Step 4: Allow the Emotional Energy to Flow
Breathe deeply from your belly. Take slow, steady, deep breaths, allowing the emotional energy to flow freely through you.

While consciously breathing, observe how your sensorial and feeling experience changes as the emotional energy moves through you.

Keep paying attention to the emotion in a relaxed, centered space.

Step 5: Experience the Liberated Emotional Energy
After a while, the raw energy of the emotion is set free.

Here, you may observe another negative emotion hidden behind it; in this case, go through the process from the beginning.

But more likely, you’ll experience the unobstructed positive energy from this transmutation process.

You will feel more open, lighter, liberated, and free

 

 

healingqueen said: 

right,  whereas with myself I would force myself to accept and welcome and unconditionally love the spider right off the bat as uncomfortable as it might feel

Really? 

It seems more to me like you're throwing yourself into snake pits repeatedly and questioning why you're flipping the fuck out once you're in there, to borrow parallels from the metaphor. 

but if I knew that it was poisonous I would try to capture it and release it outside while making sure that it did not touch me  and if it was a snake,  I would unconditionally love the snake too but I would get myself out of the environment of the snake and try to find someone else to handle the snake because that is just too much for me right now

The reason I bring up Snakes is that it is often a reflex response to fear them even without any experience with them. 

At an evolutionary standpoint, those with the trait of fearing snakes showed higher averages than those who braved or ignored them. By Darwinian standards, a fear of snakes proved beneficial to the species as a matter of proven averages, and as such someone with a fear of them may not have even faced a traumatic experience in relation to them at all in spite of the fear being on that level potentially. 

Someone could be afraid of snakes with it being no one's fault. 

I mean at least I think that is how I would handle it but maybe the situation would force me to actually confront the snake and I might actually get poisoned  soo yeah I am struggling with this concept of accepting all-that-is because of the "but what if" scenarios....  hopefully I get some insight from God about this because this is confusing me soo much because I desire to be in balance and harmony with all-that-is and nature

See, an equivalent of a protective circle or incense and the like here would be ANTIVENOM, to have a tether to pull back from a predictable poison. 

how do you personally justify shielding Turncoat when you believe in having an equal balance of dark and light within all of us?

I look at it as a matter of perception's room to encode helpful versus harmful experiences, and the patterns that people find themselves in which can through repetition reinforce their situation. 

It can often be overstimulation that stops someone from their pain becoming a lesson, instead learning "OW THAT HURTS" rather than anything constructive, even to the degree in some cases of them seeking that same pain again and again. 

As you mentioned before, moderation and balance are what are ideal. With most people, over how naturally shielding comes to people if they do not opt for Avoidant strategies, I am usually having to advise that they LOWER their shield so that they can experience more, but you by contrast are coming at it from the opposite angle; With no shielding at all you are blinded by the pain itself. 

A lot of coping strategies can fall into either fortification or escapism, and in those forms they tend to prove pattern forming and addictive. I do not recommend those kind, but anything otherwise harmless like protective circles and candles I can actually argue the benefits of through what I have learned in Psychology. 

is it more that you do not believe that we should necessarily allow ourselves to connect to other people's darkness and the darkness of the world? 

I believe in fortifying myself so that I can take on another's darkness enough to relate to it, then use that empathic connection to heal us both of the affliction together. 

It has been how I've handled a surprising amount of people, even some one day strangers. There are a surprising number of people who just need someone to not judge them while letting them vent for a night to clear out years of baggage, and on the road I ended up this for some people as well as at college and other places. 

Something as simple as a "I feel you man" can sometimes do a lot of good. 

see this is confusing me because I feel like everything within me should be reflected outside of me so if I am allowing my shadow to become conscious shouldn't I also allow everything else around me to exist as it is without trying to put a shield against it? I am very confused and I need answers because I feel like my mind is all tangled up and in a mess

Remember that now is now, and that you are weathering through a storm. 

It's what I have to remind myself during such times anyway. 

yes but Turncoat I am a seer in the dark that is what people like me do,  we find the light in the dark  and some really exciting encouraging news I was lost deep in the pain and wounding of my Inner child (this is called flooding in Internal family systems)  and I did my energy transmutation prayer and it worked  like instantly  I was right those prayers were healing prayers I just overused them soo much at first that it threw me out of balance because I was using the prayers for "all of my energy" like all at once  but if it is focused on just a specific energy it works and as long as it is only used more naturally like when painful emotions from childhood surface I do not think that there is a backlash but I will update this thread if there is one  I was I an absolutely awful horrible state of mind and I feel safe and comfortable now

healingqueen said: 

yes but Turncoat I am a seer in the dark that is what people like me do

Fortification is fairly neutral, all paths have a reason to consider it. 

,  we find the light in the dark  and some really exciting encouraging news I was lost deep in the pain and wounding of my Inner child (this is called flooding in Internal family systems)  and I did my energy transmutation prayer and it worked  like instantly  I was right those prayers were healing prayers I just overused them soo much at first that it threw me out of balance because I was using the prayers for "all of my energy" like all at once  but if it is focused on just a specific energy it works and as long as it is only used more naturally like when painful emotions from childhood surface I do not think that there is a backlash but I will update this thread if there is one  I was I an absolutely awful horrible state of mind and I feel safe and comfortable now

How do you think this might have gone with a shield of some kind, and moderation rather than throwing everything into it all at once? 

Impatience again. 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

yes but Turncoat I am a seer in the dark that is what people like me do

Fortification is fairly neutral, all paths have a reason to consider it. 

,  we find the light in the dark  and some really exciting encouraging news I was lost deep in the pain and wounding of my Inner child (this is called flooding in Internal family systems)  and I did my energy transmutation prayer and it worked  like instantly  I was right those prayers were healing prayers I just overused them soo much at first that it threw me out of balance because I was using the prayers for "all of my energy" like all at once  but if it is focused on just a specific energy it works and as long as it is only used more naturally like when painful emotions from childhood surface I do not think that there is a backlash but I will update this thread if there is one  I was I an absolutely awful horrible state of mind and I feel safe and comfortable now

How do you think this might have gone with a shield of some kind, and moderation rather than throwing everything into it all at once? 

Impatience again. 

oh I definitely learned my lesson about moderation,  even the best medicine can be overdone and have horrible effects  but this is the other thing too Turncoat is that I have to gauge how much is too much or too little  and since I am impatient it usually goes like-  first of all use it on everything to the max, if too much cancel and tone down or cancel and change the formula until it is not too much  because I would rather overdo it and correct the dosage than under do it and be missing a lot of healing potential  and since this is spiritual experimenting and not a physical substance it is easier to play with dosages  but in this specific case with these prayers,  everything felt soo amazing and beautiful that I did not even expect a backlash  I thought that I could just keep doing it with all of my energies like literally all of them not just a few a day,  and keep doing it and doing it until I was all the way healed  I was not even thinking of it like a medicine but then when the backlash happened I realized that I unintentionally threw my energy balance off and my positive energy bank went to like zero  and I am going to be experimenting with the "dosage" of these prayers for a while because I want to really fully understand how to use them in the safest most overall effective way

and I still am unsure about shielding  what really needs to happen (I think) is that I need to get these core wounding emotional energies from childhood released so that I am not still a magnet for mostly lower vibrational energies