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healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

I need you to explain to me why Shielding is something you find struggles with. 

It's the more common magic, and typically easier to use. 

because "shielding" implies "separating yourself from" which keeps you trapped in duality and polarity instead of feeling more neutral and calm and peaceful and accepting and flowing with life

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way, but even in the helpful forms that is what it is effectively doing. Even ideas like having Thick or Tough Skin is still about how the Skin is shielding 'You'. 

Some lessons may come slower from taking a more guarded approach, but going at it completely raw tends to just lend to self-abuse and enough overstimulation to only learn the shitty stuff. 

but I am not a yogi I just want to come out of psychosis  but even if I come out of psychosis I might have other karma to work through before I reincarnate into a lifetime of a yogi,  maybe,  I mean it could possibly happen in this lifetime but I really want to be a healer  I mean I related to the wounded healer archetype soo much and if I was to just become a yogi instead of helping people heal that seems strange  I mean yogis are wise and have wonderful healing advice I am sure but idk I suppose that I was planning a more "active" healing role for myself and less peacefully meditating

healingqueen said: 

like it gets complicated though when you accept that fire is a part of you and you are a part of fire and you see that there is a forest fire,  you might want to make the choice to avoid the fire and then it is like if you choose to "not" do something or to "avoid" something is that separation consciousness?  like even if you start focusing what you want to experience vs what you don't want to experience is that separation consciousness?

Things accepted gradually, a piece at a time, can allow wisdom to come from it. 

Taking it at a patient, measured pace is not avoiding it so much as setting a realistic timeline for yourself. 

healingqueen said: 

I really want to be a healer  I mean I related to the wounded healer archetype soo much

 

Most forms of healing tend to come from taking another's pain inside of yourself. 

If you are not built to take in another's pain, then you need to heal yourself first.

If I was to just become a yogi instead of helping people heal that seems strange  I mean yogis are wise and have wonderful healing advice I am sure but idk I suppose that I was planning a more "active" healing role for myself and less peacefully meditating

The Path of the Mentor is a more passive way of affecting the world, yet they can end up causally responsible for so much. 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

I need you to explain to me why Shielding is something you find struggles with. 

It's the more common magic, and typically easier to use. 

because "shielding" implies "separating yourself from" which keeps you trapped in duality and polarity instead of feeling more neutral and calm and peaceful and accepting and flowing with life

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way, but even in the helpful forms that is what it is effectively doing. Even ideas like having Thick or Touch Skin is still about how the Skin is shielding 'You'. 

Some lessons may come slower from taking a more guarded approach, but going at it completely raw tends to just lend to self-abuse and enough overstimulation to only learn the shitty stuff. 

this is my pattern of learning though from being unbalanced  I tend to gravitate towards error as a teacher more than to success  (it is very strange, isn't it ?)  I do learn the lessons though and eventually stop repeating them soo it will more likely be a case of keeping myself unprotected  (and out of fearful thinking patterns because fearful thinking patterns can sometimes attract what you do not want or limit your ability to think clearly about how to handle a situation in a way that would promote peace instead of war or damage)  unless something shakes me up so much that I am never able to feel safe unprotected again  and by that time it might be too late but I am willing to take that risk

^  the bolded is the other reason is that fear can attract what you are scared of  this is like how in the wild they say that the predatory animals can sense fear so do not show or feel fear  what is really happening is that if you feel scared it can actually attract the predatory animal attacking you  and I am guided to respect all predatory energy without giving that energy permission to dominate me  as in "it is there and I am a part of it and it is a part of me but it is not all of me" which could potentially minimize the possibility of being attacked or if it is spiritual being possessed

also if you connect with an animal this way like as in let yourself be a part of that animal and that animal be a part of you it will respect and understand you more and that is how people become best friends with big cats and stuff like that

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

because "shielding" implies "separating yourself from" which keeps you trapped in duality and polarity instead of feeling more neutral and calm and peaceful and accepting and flowing with life

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way, but even in the helpful forms that is what it is effectively doing. Even ideas like having Thick or Touch Skin is still about how the Skin is shielding 'You'. 

Some lessons may come slower from taking a more guarded approach, but going at it completely raw tends to just lend to self-abuse and enough overstimulation to only learn the shitty stuff. 

this is my pattern of learning though from being unbalanced  I tend to gravitate towards error as a teacher more than to success  (it is very strange, isn't it ?) 

Learning from your mistakes is normal, but as a teacher that risks you being responsible over any mistakes another makes with your knowledge. 

I do learn the lessons though and eventually stop repeating them soo it will more likely be a case of keeping myself unprotected  (and out of fearful thinking patterns because fearful thinking patterns can sometimes attract what you do not want or limit your ability to think clearly about how to handle a situation in a way that would promote peace instead of war or damage) 

That is a matter of associations, likely hardened ones, which are a difficult thing to work through. 

I personally opt for re-defining those associations towards more recent context, but that can take a lot of reinforcement which means dealing with the shit you don't like, multiple times, within controlled conditions. 

The things we always find ourselves thinking about are effectively who we are, which is why I try to surround myself with more helpful and positive associations and symbols. 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

I guess I hadn't thought of it that way, but even in the helpful forms that is what it is effectively doing. Even ideas like having Thick or Touch Skin is still about how the Skin is shielding 'You'. 

Some lessons may come slower from taking a more guarded approach, but going at it completely raw tends to just lend to self-abuse and enough overstimulation to only learn the shitty stuff. 

this is my pattern of learning though from being unbalanced  I tend to gravitate towards error as a teacher more than to success  (it is very strange, isn't it ?) 

Learning from your mistakes is normal, but as a teacher that risks you being responsible over any mistakes another makes with your knowledge. 

I do learn the lessons though and eventually stop repeating them soo it will more likely be a case of keeping myself unprotected  (and out of fearful thinking patterns because fearful thinking patterns can sometimes attract what you do not want or limit your ability to think clearly about how to handle a situation in a way that would promote peace instead of war or damage) 

That is a matter of associations, likely hardened ones, which are a difficult thing to work through. 

I personally opt for re-defining those associations towards more recent context, but that can take a lot of reinforcement which means dealing with the shit you don't like, multiple times, within controlled conditions. 

The things we always find ourselves thinking about are effectively who we are, which is why I try to surround myself with more helpful and positive associations and symbols. 

elaborate on the bolded? this confused me a little

healingqueen said:

also if you connect with an animal this way like as in let yourself be a part of that animal it will respect and understand you more and that is how people become best friends with big cats and stuff like that

I in general have always connected well with animals empathically, I read their body language well enough that they don't feel deaf around me. I blame having grown my 0 through 4 years with a Labrador Retriever during the formative years of language formation, as that dog had me trained to fetch her treats on command (and is my first tangible memory). 

It brings out interesting sides in them overtime as they become used to it, my pets have always been really fun to have with this trait but stranger-animals find it nice too. In general I've had to sort of be the communicator between animal and people... a little too often, it spooks me how deaf people are to animal body language. 

I ended up connecting with a wolf at an LA Wolf Sanctuary, he rubbed on me a bunch and was super friendly (until a staff member decided that could be a liability risk). 

oh and yeah I do not plan on taking an actual teacher role until I am out of my psychosis,  and that is why I am giving warnings not to do anything that I do until I am out of psychosis

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

I do learn the lessons though and eventually stop repeating them soo it will more likely be a case of keeping myself unprotected  (and out of fearful thinking patterns because fearful thinking patterns can sometimes attract what you do not want or limit your ability to think clearly about how to handle a situation in a way that would promote peace instead of war or damage) 

That is a matter of associations, likely hardened ones, which are a difficult thing to work through. 

I personally opt for re-defining those associations towards more recent context, but that can take a lot of reinforcement which means dealing with the shit you don't like, multiple times, within controlled conditions. 

elaborate on the bolded? this confused me a little

I learned about this in college and tried applying it towards my own life to fix my old OCD problems. 

Exposure Therapy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_therapy

In simpler terms, I forced myself to deal with the sources of my problem enough times to try to desensitize the cues. Over a period of years they became easier to handle and, with it, mental coping skills followed that keep that shit locked in a fucking cage through lifestyle choices. 

As an example though, lets take someone deathly afraid of Spiders. Someone could present that person with a caged spider once per day for weeks until the subject shows less fear over it, in which they can then gradually advance the exposure until the subject is no longer triggered into a fear response by Spiders. 


Another thing I've seen is that the things we look at work like "Memory Totems". If we surround ourselves with images and objects that we associate with bad thoughts, those bad thoughts will occur more often. These can be gradually reassociated through, but the effort's a toil to do.