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Turncoat said: 

You have this weird idea that if you are patient that it will fail, but in exchange you keep going into toxic springs with no protection and then find yourself, down the line, fleeing it and cussing yourself out over it.

I still see it as you trying to fight your fear of snakes by swimming in a pit of them, then when you come out poisoned you're like "What happened?". 

If you could protect yourself just enough to not have to flee, to not become overstimulated by the process, you will walk out of it with more experience.

It's like how Testing Anxiety can ruin someone's test scores, in spite of how smart or studied up they may be. By working on that anxiety their skills in the subject itself have more room to shine. 

soo let's think of it this way then,  without shielding myself off from any of spirit what are some other ways that I could protect myself instead?  I am open to protecting and fortifying myself in other ways just not specifically shielding  some of these so far have been releasing through transmuting,  trying to remain accepting and nonjudgmental,  gratitude and humility-   is there anything else that I could add?

healingqueen said: 

I do not really care if anyone else wants me to behave any differently because I need to go through my own personal lessons myself it is my responsibility to get myself out of psychosis and I am the ONLY person who can save myself, no one else is going to save my life or fix me for me it all has to come from listening to God and to my intuition

You act like you're supposed to find an answer to psychosis, but from my findings: 

1. It takes withstanding it, like a sandstorm tearing at the flesh. If the skin is gentle it will peel right off, while if it is toughened and reinforced, potentially from past trials at the desert, then while the problem is still there they are otherwise more built to withstand it. 

2. There isn't really a 1-to-1 answer for episodes, especially if meds have shown themselves to not help. You're liable to drive yourself crazy if you keep seeing it as your own fault that you are going through these episodes, and the stress from beating yourself up over your failure will simply risk making it worse. 

3. Chilling out works in two directions, both as Fortification to resist the hard trials ahead and to Debrief yourself after coming back from The Ether, The Land of Spirits, or whatever other names it might go by as Streamlined Shorthand of something inherent to the human condition. 

Without the above I would walk away from situations generally afraid with little learned from it, but with the right mindset it's been a useful, albeit abusive teacher. A lot of what I know now could have only been learned from not being 100% sane. 

https://youtu.be/1fh6QBwnxwk

from the youtube video- "before I became my shaman's road, I experienced many tortures  I was very sick and I suffered greatly to become a shaman. my spirits dragged me everywhere and I suffered very much.  If you obey the spirits' will then you will become a shaman. but, I didn't want to become a shaman  and I had constant visions in my dreams a voice forced me and dictated to me what I should do  day and night there was no peace, and I was afflicted with constant pain, so-  I had to become a shaman"

I'll try the link to see where things go, but I have largely found Shaman experiences to visit similar themes but from very different approaches and mindsets. 

Many make mistakes, then try to teach those mistakes. This is what has me avoiding linking some of my former research, they have good things to teach but also spread some of their sickness. 

and my guides are forcing me to start primarily listening to my intuition for answers more than from other people anymore  like the order instead of going seek external advice and take what resonates with your intuition,  now it is seek internal advice first and if external advice is given along the way that might resonate then cool and if not then leave it"  they are switching the order up on me

My "guides" have always given really, really bad advice, but at the edges of them are some nuggets of truth I've been able to appropriate towards other aims. 

I tend to be more confused over when some presumption shows itself to have a worldly basis years later, like rationalizing Novice Tier Mind Reading as Pattern Recognition, Mentalism, and Empathy working in tandem. That is not Mind Reading, but for someone else who has not taken the time to question it it certainly would seem like it to them. 

I have found more to gain out of being skeptical while continuing to look into things, to eventually see if I find something that translates in spite of myself such as my findings in Symbology and Astrology. 

you could try talking to the spirits that are controlling me if you want to (you probably have some shamanic abilities yourself that struggling with schizophrenia might have opened up in you), but I am pretty much at their whim

Aren't those kind of what I talk to when you're in the midst of your passions? 

I tried doing something like that recently with someone far in the deep end of the pool and it made me sick. 

I have tried resisting this path for my entire life tried to break free from feeling controlled and like I had no free will over my life but it did not work soo I am very much stuck with this calling and that is why I finally gave full control of myself over to God / all that is and dissolved my boundaries since I never felt like I had freewill anyway

Well yeah you're going at it raw. 

These can sometimes be helpful, as can Incense and warm comforting Candles which are fairly easy to purchase. Having familiar tethers and symbolic assistance for your own mental health can make it easier to Spelunk into your own darkness. 



Even some musicians are oddly helpful for maintaining composure (and people at companies like VEVO noticed and are trying to steer it). 

Found this while searching old posts, yet more occurrences where Star Wars is secretly a path to Magical Philosophy: 



I began early following her lines of thought, but as I got older the flaws became more apparent. Her Shakespearean gifts mask something darker. 

(3:39 - 4:14)

"in shamanic initiation,  symbolic dismemberment (soul shattering) incurs direct experience with the sacred  as ritual death and rebirth takes place the initiate is reassembled and reborn as a new being-  a shaman with power and potential  shamanic initiation, say Ellen and Sabini requires various and numerous stages of ascending and descending the "world tree"(the central axis that provides access to all of the other realms especially the upper and lower worlds)-->  (this is why I am going up and down with my mood swings-  I am still figuring out what are symptoms of sickness and what are symptoms of going through the shamanic healing process-  I get this wrong sometimes and am learning discernment) each time gaining greater consciousness of the unified reality of the transcendent dimension"   and this is happening somewhat out of my control and while I am in this world and the spirit world at the same time which is always and has been since I was born as far as I know

also I told you that I am not making this up that I am a shaman-to-be being guided by spirit as everything that I am going through matches up to the initiation process in ways that I do not even fully understand during the times that I feel lost and confused in this process

also I know that you are interested I Jung's work and archetypes but did you know that a lot of his stuff parallels with shamanism too?  this video explains some of that


if I am making this stuff up then I am doing it perfectly because it is all matching up with what is known about the shamanic initiation process....

I think that maybe we should not f*** with what I am going through or try to stop it and that spirit showed me this video for a reason to help explain both to myself and other people what is going on with me and I think that respecting the process is important

whether or not anyone believes in shamanism obviously I do so I should probably follow my path correctly as guided by spirit right ?  if I am going to follow a shamanic path I should at least do it properly as guided by spirit

especially because I already surrendered to the calling

 

 

this shaman thing is not a passing phase or an interest....

healingqueen said: 

this shaman thing is not a passing phase or an interest....

Only the future will show for certain, but honestly I don't see a problem with jumping across different faiths back-to-back beyond a potential question over their convictions.

As long as you are learning something about yourself that can carry with you, I mostly only care about which one you ascribe to to help myself use it as a source of reference. 

I am creating a shield against spirits of sickness and disease and illness and unwellness  the problem that I really had with shielding against the general "negative energies" was because negative energies can also be warnings and lessons and keep you out of danger which are important to listen to the messages of, from my present understanding, until you reach full oneness consciousness  but maybe I just need to start with something and build my way up  both my energy healer and my shamanic practitioner mentors recommended shielding as well as most of the people from a shaman forum that I asked on  interesting

healingqueen said: 

I am creating a shield against spirits of sickness and disease and illness and unwellness  the problem that I really had with shielding against the general "negative energies" was because negative energies can also be warnings and lessons and keep you out of danger which are important to listen to the messages of, from my present understanding, until you reach full oneness consciousness  but maybe I just need to start with something and build my way up  both my energy healer and my shamanic practitioner mentors recommended shielding as well as most of the people from shaman forum that I asked on  interesting

 

 

😭  I really hope that this works out well for me because I was really sick of absorbing other people and spirits around me lower vibrational stuff all of the time like a sponge and I had been doing that my whole life  maybe I can actually be social and not isolate myself anymore if this works but I probably still have to do some soul retrieval stuff in myself before being social again

healingqueen said: 

healingqueen said: 

I am creating a shield against spirits of sickness and disease and illness and unwellness  the problem that I really had with shielding against the general "negative energies" was because negative energies can also be warnings and lessons and keep you out of danger which are important to listen to the messages of, from my present understanding, until you reach full oneness consciousness  but maybe I just need to start with something and build my way up  both my energy healer and my shamanic practitioner mentors recommended shielding as well as most of the people from shaman forum that I asked on  interesting

 

 

 

😭  I really hope that this works out well for me because I was really sick of absorbing other people and spirits around me lower vibrational stuff all of the time like a sponge and I had been doing that my whole life  maybe I can actually be social and not isolate myself anymore if this works but I probably still have to do some soul retrieval stuff in myself before being social again

 

 

at the very least if I do not become an actual shaman as a profession,  I am going to become a healthy woman and that is good enough for me

Turncoat what do you think of this guy's book thtled "Sacred Shield?  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B088HJ274D/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1677185135&sr=8-1

he ties all his perspective of "negative energy" into one spirit entity that he named or asked the name of called Mordrigal and then speaks about ways to release yourself from its control over you

"Sacred Shield provides a broad look at the field of shamanism. This book, more fundamentally, gives witness to a dark, malevolent energetic form observed to be causing illness, depression, anxiety, panic, erratic behaviors, physical symptoms, and, in a few extreme cases, suicide.Sacred Shield introduces the concept of the "Song of the Soul" as an alternative view of the luminous energy field and how that song never goes away yet can be hijacked or interrupted by this energetic form, named by the author as Mordrigal. The book also introduces the concept of "soul fractures" as a place where the deepest wounds to one's being are held, thereby creating the openings for the opportunistic Mordrigal entity to enter.Once the energetic form is able to take hold, it utilizes the individual's unconscious/subconscious as its own library to terrorize its victims. A protocol is introduced that can remove this energetic form, referred to as the Mordrigal Protocol. Lastly, the book stresses the importance of protection with emphasis on creating one's own "Sacred Shield." This book about shamanic protection for the world today proclaims a level of hope throughout."

 

 

skeptical but will see what suggestions that he has  I mean I can definitely see his perspective