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A lot of other people who are not so smart are also lonely...? I don't see what that has to do with anything..

Honestly.. I think you're projecting. You have this image of me that you've constructed in your head and you're filling in the gaps with a narrative that reflects the threat you perceive in my apparent feeling of grandiosity... That I'm in the top 0.1% of the smartest people is a fact. I don't feel... much anything when I say that. No pride. Nothing. It just is how it is. There's no need to feel threatened.

I mentioned the goat thing more in passing because..... it felt close to what you were advocating. There's nothing inherently wrong with enjoying yourself. But I don't look up to Marcus Aurelius quite as much as you do.

It's something you've made up in your head that I only crave high-brow discussions. These are... normal discussions for me. I'm not lonely in the traditional sense of the word that you perhaps understand it. I'm lonely in a crowd. People adore me, respect me, and sometimes fear me. I have everything most people would ever want, really.

Except an equal. I don't feel connected with things or people. Unfortunately, I am lacking in this department perhaps quite severely. Perhaps it's an on/off switch for you, although I doubt it. But it's not for me. I crave connections. But I can't have any. It's not that others suck..... It's just that they're not me. They're like idiots, intellectually speaking, compared to me. I don't say this in spite... It's just how it is. I could you people alternatively mentally disabled, but I have no doubt you'd take offense to that too.

Imagine being around people who could only say yes or no, and did so randomly. Would you not feel lonely? That's how I feel.

Just trying to help you out my dude.

I still think I am right in my analysis, but I don't enjoy arguing like TC.

I think it will be pointless to argue this for now.

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Just trying to help you out my dude.

I still think I am right in my analysis, but I don't enjoy arguing like TC.

I think it will be pointless to argue this for now.

Hmh... Your overarching analysis?

Arguing with TC is like trying to push earth off its orbit around the Sun... It's pointless.

But to say that you don't enjoy arguing.... Why? Because you believe it's pointless? What constitutes arguing here is not clear... Your fundamental presuppositions... are different from mine. Your analysis could be correct on the general account.... that it's my inability to accept those that are unable to connect with me that is causing me to be lonely.... but the remedy which you're suggesting, to develop a good mindset, is not useful to me.

What you're suggesting is quite close to.... what Marcus Aurelius was preaching. I am aware of stoicism. I do not respect the philosophy.

I have my ego to consider. If I have to choose between my ego and being happy... I choose being happy. But my ego will not allow me to make this choice. I could "transform" my ego. But at what cost...? I'd be a retard, it'd be like shutting down half of my brain.

I'd rather keep my ego and identity, accept that those around me will forever be idiotic, and be unable to connect. I'd rather do that than fool myself into.... thinking there is a connection when really I'm just pretending.

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

I've been there before. Day in day out you've seen everything before. Simple things like a car turning into a street feels repetitive. Everyone seems scripted, like programmed robots, you wonder if there's an actual consciousness in them so you're less likely to communicate with them.

In my case the loneliness was more like a horrific idea of reality, communications are overloaded with small talk and formalities that keep the peace yet the fact they are practiced feels like a waste of time.

As for the ego. It's easier to transform when there's no choice for the sake of better mental health. It's also quite painful when we have a painful opportunity to change, once we know this it comes to the point we'll look forward to the next situation that drives change in us. We then find we'll easily dismiss things that used to upset us.

When we fail to change It's really a personal choice. A lack of acceptance will entail grieving for prolonged durations. I knew a woman, her Father died over a decade ago and she clings onto this car, constantly repairing it while the car itself really burdens her. Suggest how she should get rid of the car, and she'll turn against you arguing how it's her Father's car. For example, she isn't the better her.

When the ego is no longer of service we'll know, it's emotional and we get weakened, it's certainly that opportunity. It's way of survival depends on if we choose to accept a loss or not. If we choose wisely we won't regret it, while if we're hard and prideful and refuse to accept, we won't find peace and our coping skills will turn to shit.

Spatial Mind said: 

I've been there before. Day in day out you've seen everything before. Simple things like a car turning into a street feels repetitive. Everyone seems scripted, like programmed robots, you wonder if there's an actual consciousness in them so you're less likely to communicate with them.

In my case the loneliness was more like a horrific idea of reality, communications are overloaded with small talk and formalities that keep the peace yet the fact they are practiced feels like a waste of time.

This sort of thing often comes from a mutual reluctance to break the mold, or to risk upsetting the calm. People choose to either continue on with that, or break loose from ritual pleasantries. I try to avoid the banal and make it easy for others to do as well, as long as it isn't awkward.

I just like it

tpp said: 

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

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i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

I don't have much of an ego... Despite how it may seem on the surface.

I believe you said you are motivated by opposition.... not obligation. Thus... I believe you will be disinclined to respond the next time you look at this topic. I could be wrong.

Mhmmm... I'm more motivated by example.. to be honest. David Hume? Maybe that's my philosopher of choice. David Hume is to me what Marcus Aurelius is to you?

Spatial Mind said: 

I've been there before. Day in day out you've seen everything before. Simple things like a car turning into a street feels repetitive. Everyone seems scripted, like programmed robots, you wonder if there's an actual consciousness in them so you're less likely to communicate with them.

I feel less like that today. Don't get be wrong. I believe people are mindless.... But I can stand it a little more today?

Why did you find things like that? What's your reason..?

I am not sure if what you're experiencing is necessarily comparable to what I experience.... I'm convinced people seem mindless to me because I am too smart compared to them. I suppose it could be that it's just a feeling... but objectively speaking, I am much smarter than those around me (top 0.1% at least), and I certainly feel as though it's that lack of intellect that drives me to find no common ground with them.

It's hard to tell the difference between chemicals in my brain telling me I am lonely and.... actually being lonely. I have a very high status, I'm wealthy, have competed at the world level in sports, and many people want to be me. By every measure I should be happy? I'm not. I'm very lonely.

In my case the loneliness was more like a horrific idea of reality, communications are overloaded with small talk and formalities that keep the peace yet the fact they are practiced feels like a waste of time.

As for the ego. It's easier to transform when there's no choice for the sake of better mental health. It's also quite painful when we have a painful opportunity to change, once we know this it comes to the point we'll look forward to the next situation that drives change in us. We then find we'll easily dismiss things that used to upset us.

When we fail to change It's really a personal choice. A lack of acceptance will entail grieving for prolonged durations. I knew a woman, her Father died over a decade ago and she clings onto this car, constantly repairing it while the car itself really burdens her. Suggest how she should get rid of the car, and she'll turn against you arguing how it's her Father's car. For example, she isn't the better her.

When the ego is no longer of service we'll know, it's emotional and we get weakened, it's certainly that opportunity. It's way of survival depends on if we choose to accept a loss or not. If we choose wisely we won't regret it, while if we're hard and prideful and refuse to accept, we won't find peace and our coping skills will turn to shit.

Yes. I can tell that you're "enlightened" in the same way that I am enlightened. If you understand the ego and its destruction, then you must also understand that there are many ways to destroy the ego and how you destroy the ego determines which way you grow.

I'm.... very aware of myself. It's like I'm looking at myself from third person view all the time. When I was 10 years old, I looked up this dictionary term for it... derealization I think is the term? I'm supposed to be on my way to healing myself by.... de-derealisation lol, to form an ego and all that... But I think it's not really working the way it should. I don't really connect with things. It's like meh. By every objective standard, I should care about this... but I don't? Neither can I force myself to care about people. It's more like an obligation or a habit.

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tpp said: 

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

It's still good practice for if similar arguments sprout later, and an opening for research.